I suppose their thinking with regards to a separate event for honorary Oscars is that they can devote more time to those who are receiving them. I think four were given out at last year's event. I think Harry Belafonte was also one of the recipients.
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Originally Posted by Dan Fortesque:
“I suppose their thinking with regards to a separate event for honorary Oscars is that they can devote more time to those who are receiving them. I think four were given out at last year's event. I think Harry Belafonte was also one of the recipients.”
“I suppose their thinking with regards to a separate event for honorary Oscars is that they can devote more time to those who are receiving them. I think four were given out at last year's event. I think Harry Belafonte was also one of the recipients.”
Sorry, but I' not convinced, and if you saw any of the Honorary Oscar presentation's in the 1970's and 80's you would see why.
When Laurence Olivier received his from Cary Grant there was a long, warm tribute from Cary and then many clips from his best films. The same with Alec Guinness when he received his from Dustin Hoffman.
The Acadamy probably think that their younger viewers won't be interested, but all they have done is upset many older viewers, for who this was the highlight of the evening.
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“Sorry, but I' not convinced, and if you saw any of the Honorary Oscar presentation's in the 1970's and 80's you would see why.
When Laurence Olivier received his from Cary Grant there was a long, warm tribute from Cary and then many clips from his best films. The same with Alec Guinness when he received his from Dustin Hoffman.
The Acadamy probably think that their younger viewers won't be interested, but all they have done is upset many older viewers, for who this was the highlight of the evening.”
“Sorry, but I' not convinced, and if you saw any of the Honorary Oscar presentation's in the 1970's and 80's you would see why.
When Laurence Olivier received his from Cary Grant there was a long, warm tribute from Cary and then many clips from his best films. The same with Alec Guinness when he received his from Dustin Hoffman.
The Acadamy probably think that their younger viewers won't be interested, but all they have done is upset many older viewers, for who this was the highlight of the evening.”
At least BAFTA make their Fellowships the climactic event of the show.
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“I have some of the In Memoriam clips from 10/15 years ago, they were moving, uplifting, and beautifully and respectfully presented.
The Acadamy should hang their collective heads in shame for the way they treat their late lamented members of the industry.
”
“I have some of the In Memoriam clips from 10/15 years ago, they were moving, uplifting, and beautifully and respectfully presented.
The Acadamy should hang their collective heads in shame for the way they treat their late lamented members of the industry.
”
Its very unprofessional.They need to reboot/rejuvenate the oscars ceremony and make it more meticilous and artistic and a bit less trying and failing to be hip and down with the kids .Their to my mind trying to be populist but failing in being as popular as their chasing/targetting the wrong part of the audience too much.
I watched It Happened One Night on Tuesday (got the DVD as a Christmas present) and it was fantastic! Claudette Colbert is simply irresistible and Clark Gable is simply gorgeous.
Was a brilliant story and the acting, especially by Clark Gable, was top notch. No wonder it got the five main Academy Awards that year.
Was a brilliant story and the acting, especially by Clark Gable, was top notch. No wonder it got the five main Academy Awards that year.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“I watched It Happened One Night on Tuesday (got the DVD as a Christmas present) and it was fantastic! Claudette Colbert is simply irresistible and Clark Gable is simply gorgeous.
Was a brilliant story and the acting, especially by Clark Gable, was top notch. No wonder it got the five main Academy Awards that year.”
“I watched It Happened One Night on Tuesday (got the DVD as a Christmas present) and it was fantastic! Claudette Colbert is simply irresistible and Clark Gable is simply gorgeous.
Was a brilliant story and the acting, especially by Clark Gable, was top notch. No wonder it got the five main Academy Awards that year.”
Ironically, neither star wanted to do the film, Gable was loaned to Columbia as punishment for declining a role at MGM, his home studio.
After they finished shooting, Claudette complained to a friend, "I've just finished the worst picture in the world."
Nominated as Best Actress, she was so sure that she wouldn't win that Columbia boss Harry Cohn had to send someone to drag her off the train and take her to the ceremony. She arrived to accept her award dressed in a two piece travelling suit.
Among the actresses that declined the film were Loretta Young, Myrna Loy, Miriam Hopkins and Margaret Sullivan. Bette Davis wanted the role, but Jack Warner would not loan her out to Columbia, then known as "Poverty Row." The success of the film, and it's triumph at the Oscars soon changed all that.
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“What was Clark Gable's best film Walter and co in your opinion?”
“What was Clark Gable's best film Walter and co in your opinion?”
For me, it has to be Gone With the Wind. Bette Davis was offered the role of Scarlet opposite Errol Flynn, but even she said that there was only one actor who could play Rhett Butler, and that was Gable, then known as "The King of Hollywood."
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“For me, it has to be Gone With the Wind. Bette Davis was offered the role of Scarlet opposite Errol Flynn, but even she said that there was only one actor who could play Rhett Butler, and that was Gable, then known as "The King of Hollywood."”
“For me, it has to be Gone With the Wind. Bette Davis was offered the role of Scarlet opposite Errol Flynn, but even she said that there was only one actor who could play Rhett Butler, and that was Gable, then known as "The King of Hollywood."”
How long would you say Clark Gables reign as the King of Hollywood lasted and who would you say succeeded him?
By the same thinking who would you say was the last true Queen of Hollywood?
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“How long would you say Clark Gables reign as the King of Hollywood lasted and who would you say succeeded him?
By the same thinking who would you say was the last true Queen of Hollywood?”
“How long would you say Clark Gables reign as the King of Hollywood lasted and who would you say succeeded him?
By the same thinking who would you say was the last true Queen of Hollywood?”
I think that Gable's reign lasted until the day he died, and even after that Joan Crawford always insisted that he had never been replaced.
He was actually given a crown when he was named the King of Hollywood, and Myrna Loy was the Queen. I love Myrna, but who else but us film buffs remember her? she never even received a single Oscar Nomination.
I suppose for Box Office clout almost up to the end, and the only Actress to win four Oscars Katie Hepburn is a worthy contender.
If it came down to popularity with crew and co workers, then Barbara's name is right up there. She always sat on the set in a chair that the crew had presented to her emblazoned with the letters "Queen B".
Bill Holden ended his emotional tribute to her at the Lincoln Centre with the words, "I Love You Queen!"
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“I think that Gable's reign lasted until the day he died, and even after that Joan Crawford always insisted that he had never been replaced.
He was actually given a crown when he was named the King of Hollywood, and Myrna Loy was the Queen. I love Myrna, but who else but us film buffs remember her? she never even received a single Oscar Nomination.
I suppose for Box Office clout almost up to the end, and the only Actress to win four Oscars Katie Hepburn is a worthy contender.
If it came down to popularity with crew and co workers, then Barbara's name is right up there. She always sat on the set in a chair that the crew had presented to her emblazoned with the letters "Queen B".
Bill Holden ended his emotional tribute to her at the Lincoln Centre with the words, "I Love You Queen!"”
“I think that Gable's reign lasted until the day he died, and even after that Joan Crawford always insisted that he had never been replaced.
He was actually given a crown when he was named the King of Hollywood, and Myrna Loy was the Queen. I love Myrna, but who else but us film buffs remember her? she never even received a single Oscar Nomination.
I suppose for Box Office clout almost up to the end, and the only Actress to win four Oscars Katie Hepburn is a worthy contender.
If it came down to popularity with crew and co workers, then Barbara's name is right up there. She always sat on the set in a chair that the crew had presented to her emblazoned with the letters "Queen B".
Bill Holden ended his emotional tribute to her at the Lincoln Centre with the words, "I Love You Queen!"”
Its very interesting to see the divergence at times between who the artistic hollywood community regarded as hollywood royalty or king/Queen,who the critics did,the academy,the public etc
In latter years the press referred to Elizabeth Taylor as hollywood royalty although Im not sure they used the word Queen.
Barbara seemed to win may categories of people over bar the academy at the peak of her film career.I just dontvknow how her fans would have felt if theyd never given her the honorary oscar.Something unprintable on digital spy I suspect!
In terms of old hollywoods whos up whos down who would you say had the most spectacular fall from grace in terms of box office power?Ie someone who was a great box office draw who lost their allure and ability to put bums on cinema,seats very quickly.
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Its very interesting to see the divergence at times between who the artistic hollywood community regarded as hollywood royalty or king/Queen,who the critics did,the academy,the public etc
In latter years the press referred to Elizabeth Taylor as hollywood royalty although Im not sure they used the word Queen.
Barbara seemed to win many categories of people over, bar the academy at the peak of her film career. I just don't know how her fans would have felt if they'd never given her the Honorary Oscar. Something unprintable on digital spy I suspect!
In terms of old Hollywood's who's up who' s down who would you say had the most spectacular fall from grace in terms of box office power? Ie someone who was a great box office draw who lost their allure and ability to put bums on cinema seats very quickly.”
“Its very interesting to see the divergence at times between who the artistic hollywood community regarded as hollywood royalty or king/Queen,who the critics did,the academy,the public etc
In latter years the press referred to Elizabeth Taylor as hollywood royalty although Im not sure they used the word Queen.
Barbara seemed to win many categories of people over, bar the academy at the peak of her film career. I just don't know how her fans would have felt if they'd never given her the Honorary Oscar. Something unprintable on digital spy I suspect!
In terms of old Hollywood's who's up who' s down who would you say had the most spectacular fall from grace in terms of box office power? Ie someone who was a great box office draw who lost their allure and ability to put bums on cinema seats very quickly.”
I can think of many titles for Liz Taylor, but Hollywood Royalty and Queen are not the first words that come to mind, and make of that what you will.
The first name that comes to mind when I think of the most spectacular fall from grace was a lady who I haven't seen much of, Kay Francis, the first lady of Warner's before Bette was even heard of. She had trouble pronouncing her r's which resulted in her rather endearing nickname, "Wavishing Kay Fwancis."
I think that I only ever saw two of her films on TV, and I don't recall ever seeing her on the big screen. There were never any Kay seasons at the National Film Theatre, or any revivals at the art houses. It was as if she got her wish when she wrote in her diary in 1938, "When I die, I want to be cremated so that no sign of my existence is left on this earth. I can't wait to be forgotten!"
She made her debut at Paramount in 1929, and made an immediate impression in this Marx Brothers comedy. She frequently co-starred with William Powell, and appearing in between 6 and 8 films a year, and was in 21 films from 1929 to 1931.
She was tempted to switch studios by Warner's offer of star status in better vehicles, and from 1932 to 1936 she was the Queen of that studio. From 1930 to 1937 she appeared on the covers of 38 film magazines, the most of any adult performer, and second only to Shirley Temple who appeared in 138.
She frequently played long suffering heroines in such weepies as I Found Stella Parrish, Secrets of an Actress, and Comet Over Broadway, (which I have seen)
She eventually became tired of these vehicles, and began feuding openly with Warner's, even threating them with a lawsuit for inferior treatment. This in turn led to her demotion to less important features and in 1939 the termination of her contract.
Warners' weren't worried, they had a new Queen, Bette Davis had just won a Best Actress Oscar for her first big Box Office film, Jezebel.
With the start of World War ll Kay concentrated on volunteer work, with extensive touring army bases with Martha Raye and Carole Landis. There experiences were eventually turned into a very successful 1944 film, Four Jill's in a Jeep.
Despite the success of this film Kay found herself unemployed at the end of the war. She signed a three picture deal with a real poverty row studio, Monogram Pictures. She didn't care, "Give me a broom and I'll sweep the stage, I don't care, I want the money."
She spent the remainder of the 1940's touring in stage productions, but declining health hastened her premature retirement.
In 1966 Kay was diagnosed with breast cancer, and underwent a mastectomy, but the cancer had spread, and it proved fatal, she died in 1968 aged just 63.
Having no living relatives, she left $1.000.000 to Seeing Eye Inc, which trained guide dogs for the blind.
My favourite Kay story was the time when she was found standing stark naked in her hotel room, pissed out of her mind, screaming, "I don't want to be a star, I want to be a woman, and I want to get FU###D!"
How could you not warm to a lady with such outrageous style ?
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“I can think of many titles for Liz Taylor, but Hollywood Royalty and Queen are not the first words that come to mind, and make of that what you will.
The first name that comes to mind when I think of the most spectacular fall from grace was a lady who I haven't seen much of, Kay Francis, the first lady of Warner's before Bette was even heard of. She had trouble pronouncing her r's which resulted in her rather endearing nickname, "Wavishing Kay Fwancis."
I think that I only ever saw two of her films on TV, and I don't recall ever seeing her on the big screen. There were never any Kay seasons at the National Film Theatre, or any revivals at the art houses. It was as if she got her wish when she wrote in her diary in 1938, "When I die, I want to be cremated so that no sign of my existence is left on this earth. I can't wait to be forgotten!"
She made her debut at Paramount in 1929, and made an immediate impression in this Marx Brothers comedy. She frequently co-starred with William Powell, and appearing in between 6 and 8 films a year, and was in 21 films from 1929 to 1931.
She was tempted to switch studios by Warner's offer of star status in better vehicles, and from 1932 to 1936 she was the Queen of that studio. From 1930 to 1937 she appeared on the covers of 38 film magazines, the most of any adult performer, and second only to Shirley Temple who appeared in 138.
She frequently played long suffering heroines in such weepies as I Found Stella Parrish, Secrets of an Actress, and Comet Over Broadway, (which I have seen)
She eventually became tired of these vehicles, and began feuding openly with Warner's, even threating them with a lawsuit for inferior treatment. This in turn led to her demotion to less important features and in 1939 the termination of her contract.
Warners' weren't worried, they had a new Queen, Bette Davis had just won a Best Actress Oscar for her first big Box Office film, Jezebel.
With the start of World War ll Kay concentrated on volunteer work, with extensive touring army bases with Martha Raye and Carole Landis. There experiences were eventually turned into a very successful 1944 film, Four Jill's in a Jeep.
Despite the success of this film Kay found herself unemployed at the end of the war. She signed a three picture deal with a real poverty row studio, Monogram Pictures. She didn't care, "Give me a broom and I'll sweep the stage, I don't care, I want the money."
She spent the remainder of the 1940's touring in stage productions, but declining health hastened her premature retirement.
In 1966 Kay was diagnosed with breast cancer, and underwent a mastectomy, but the cancer had spread, and it proved fatal, she died in 1968 aged just 63.
Having no living relatives, she left $1.000.000 to Seeing Eye Inc, which trained guide dogs for the blind.
My favourite Kay story was the time when she was found standing stark naked in her hotel room, pissed out of her mind, screaming, "I don't want to be a star, I want to be a woman, and I want to get FU###D!"
How could you not warm to a lady with such outrageous style ?”
“I can think of many titles for Liz Taylor, but Hollywood Royalty and Queen are not the first words that come to mind, and make of that what you will.
The first name that comes to mind when I think of the most spectacular fall from grace was a lady who I haven't seen much of, Kay Francis, the first lady of Warner's before Bette was even heard of. She had trouble pronouncing her r's which resulted in her rather endearing nickname, "Wavishing Kay Fwancis."
I think that I only ever saw two of her films on TV, and I don't recall ever seeing her on the big screen. There were never any Kay seasons at the National Film Theatre, or any revivals at the art houses. It was as if she got her wish when she wrote in her diary in 1938, "When I die, I want to be cremated so that no sign of my existence is left on this earth. I can't wait to be forgotten!"
She made her debut at Paramount in 1929, and made an immediate impression in this Marx Brothers comedy. She frequently co-starred with William Powell, and appearing in between 6 and 8 films a year, and was in 21 films from 1929 to 1931.
She was tempted to switch studios by Warner's offer of star status in better vehicles, and from 1932 to 1936 she was the Queen of that studio. From 1930 to 1937 she appeared on the covers of 38 film magazines, the most of any adult performer, and second only to Shirley Temple who appeared in 138.
She frequently played long suffering heroines in such weepies as I Found Stella Parrish, Secrets of an Actress, and Comet Over Broadway, (which I have seen)
She eventually became tired of these vehicles, and began feuding openly with Warner's, even threating them with a lawsuit for inferior treatment. This in turn led to her demotion to less important features and in 1939 the termination of her contract.
Warners' weren't worried, they had a new Queen, Bette Davis had just won a Best Actress Oscar for her first big Box Office film, Jezebel.
With the start of World War ll Kay concentrated on volunteer work, with extensive touring army bases with Martha Raye and Carole Landis. There experiences were eventually turned into a very successful 1944 film, Four Jill's in a Jeep.
Despite the success of this film Kay found herself unemployed at the end of the war. She signed a three picture deal with a real poverty row studio, Monogram Pictures. She didn't care, "Give me a broom and I'll sweep the stage, I don't care, I want the money."
She spent the remainder of the 1940's touring in stage productions, but declining health hastened her premature retirement.
In 1966 Kay was diagnosed with breast cancer, and underwent a mastectomy, but the cancer had spread, and it proved fatal, she died in 1968 aged just 63.
Having no living relatives, she left $1.000.000 to Seeing Eye Inc, which trained guide dogs for the blind.
My favourite Kay story was the time when she was found standing stark naked in her hotel room, pissed out of her mind, screaming, "I don't want to be a star, I want to be a woman, and I want to get FU###D!"
How could you not warm to a lady with such outrageous style ?
”
Probably best you dont tell me your pet names for Elizabeth Taylor!
In hindsight that was very foolish of her given that the talented force of nature that was Bette Davis was hot on her heels!
But can you think of any box office star who was full of box office magic and allure ie star power in droves who lost it for no apparent reason ,no rows ,disputes or bad behaviour but it just left them?I mean for example could a bad review ever kill the career of somebody who was already a box office draw?
I can think of some more contemporary stars like Hilary Swank and Brendan Fraser who lost their box office magic after being quite big but without a reason easy to pinpoint?
I rely on you to know how this relates/translates to golden era stars Please
PS I love the sound of Kay!
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!”
“http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!”
Thanks for that. Glad to see that she's still more or less healthy. Also, her autobiography sounds like it will be a great read.
Sorry to interrupt but I love that this thread is still going and I have a question for you two. If this thread was made into a movie a la 84 Charring Cross Road who would you like to play you?
Originally Posted by Dan Fortesque:
“Thanks for that. Glad to see that she's still more or less healthy. Also, her autobiography sounds like it will be a great read.”
“Thanks for that. Glad to see that she's still more or less healthy. Also, her autobiography sounds like it will be a great read.”
Your welcome
Olivia truly sounds like an indomitable spirit.I for one will certainly buy her autobiography.
Originally Posted by Trudi Monk:
“Sorry to interrupt but I love that this thread is still going and I have a question for you two. If this thread was made into a movie a la 84 Charring Cross Road who would you like to play you?”
“Sorry to interrupt but I love that this thread is still going and I have a question for you two. If this thread was made into a movie a la 84 Charring Cross Road who would you like to play you?”
What an intriguing but lovely question!
I think Edward Norton or Ewan McGregor would be good and rather more accurate/suitable choices but my ideal would be James McAvoy one of the uks finest actors.
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!”
“http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!”
Thanks for that, facinating article, and I really hope that she makes a Century.
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Probably best you dont tell me your pet names for Elizabeth Taylor!
In hindsight that was very foolish of her given that the talented force of nature that was Bette Davis was hot on her heels!
But can you think of any box office star who was full of box office magic and allure ie star power in droves who lost it for no apparent reason ,no rows ,disputes or bad behaviour but it just left them?I mean for example could a bad review ever kill the career of somebody who was already a box office draw?
I can think of some more contemporary stars like Hilary Swank and Brendan Fraser who lost their box office magic after being quite big but without a reason easy to pinpoint?
I rely on you to know how this relates/translates to golden era stars Please
PS I love the sound of Kay!”
“Probably best you dont tell me your pet names for Elizabeth Taylor!
In hindsight that was very foolish of her given that the talented force of nature that was Bette Davis was hot on her heels!
But can you think of any box office star who was full of box office magic and allure ie star power in droves who lost it for no apparent reason ,no rows ,disputes or bad behaviour but it just left them?I mean for example could a bad review ever kill the career of somebody who was already a box office draw?
I can think of some more contemporary stars like Hilary Swank and Brendan Fraser who lost their box office magic after being quite big but without a reason easy to pinpoint?
I rely on you to know how this relates/translates to golden era stars Please
PS I love the sound of Kay!”
There was a time, around 1950 when we were both teenagers, that I quite liked Taylor, particularly in Little Women, A Place in the Sun, and Father of the Bride. It was after she got together with Mike Todd, Eddie Fisher and then Burton that she began to become a colossal bore. She didn't have a hit film after The Taming of the Shrew, but she kept on churning them out, and they continued to get increasingly worse. I never understood the fuss over her performance in who's afraid of Virginia Woolf. Because she wore padding and a grey wig, many people, including the critics confused that with great acting. For me, the loud, foul mouthed character that she played in the film was just an extension of Taylor.
Considering that the average time of star in the spotlight is supposed to be seven years, there were many who were big names in the Golden Age who had their place in the sun for a time, and then faded, although many of them lasted more than double that time. Paulette Goddard, Veronica Lake are just two that come to mind, most stars at that time appeared in stinkers, some came back with a strong part in a great film, others weren't so lucky. There was a saying in Hollywood, "Three Flops and Your Out!"
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!”
“http://www.ew.com/article/2015/01/29...-with-the-wind
Thought Walter and other fans of Hollywoods golden era would like/be interested in this interview.
She seems a natural raconteur,emails at 98 and detemined to live to 100 god willing!”
What a lovely sweet lady Olivia is. I so hope she lives to 100, I think she will too. She looks AMAZING for being 98 years old. Looks 20 years younger than she is.
Popping into HMV tomorrow and hoping to buy some more films; The Heiress, Bringing Up Baby and The Lady Eve. Shockingly I've never seen a Katharine Hepburn, or an Olivia, film before.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“What a lovely sweet lady Olivia is. I so hope she lives to 100, I think she will too. She looks AMAZING for being 98 years old. Looks 20 years younger than she is.
Popping into HMV tomorrow and hoping to buy some more films; The Heiress, Bringing Up Baby and The Lady Eve. Shockingly I've never seen a Katharine Hepburn, or an Olivia, film before.”
“What a lovely sweet lady Olivia is. I so hope she lives to 100, I think she will too. She looks AMAZING for being 98 years old. Looks 20 years younger than she is.
Popping into HMV tomorrow and hoping to buy some more films; The Heiress, Bringing Up Baby and The Lady Eve. Shockingly I've never seen a Katharine Hepburn, or an Olivia, film before.”
Three great choices! Olivia deserved her Oscar for The Heiress, especially in her last climatic scene, she was awesome.
The other two are the very best examples of screwball comedy, and anyone who is familiar with my posts will know that The Lady Eve is my favourite film of all time.
I will be interested to hear your views on all of them.
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“What a lovely sweet lady Olivia is. I so hope she lives to 100, I think she will too. She looks AMAZING for being 98 years old. Looks 20 years younger than she is.
Popping into HMV tomorrow and hoping to buy some more films; The Heiress, Bringing Up Baby and The Lady Eve. Shockingly I've never seen a Katharine Hepburn, or an Olivia, film before.”
“What a lovely sweet lady Olivia is. I so hope she lives to 100, I think she will too. She looks AMAZING for being 98 years old. Looks 20 years younger than she is.
Popping into HMV tomorrow and hoping to buy some more films; The Heiress, Bringing Up Baby and The Lady Eve. Shockingly I've never seen a Katharine Hepburn, or an Olivia, film before.”
Youve selected some real golden classics there!Youve deprived yourself for years if youve never seen a Katherine Hepburn film-an extremly intelligent actress who wasnt overly showbizzy.
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“There was a time, around 1950 when we were both teenagers, that I quite liked Taylor, particularly in Little Women, A Place in the Sun, and Father of the Bride. It was after she got together with Mike Todd, Eddie Fisher and then Burton that she began to become a colossal bore. She didn't have a hit film after The Taming of the Shrew, but she kept on churning them out, and they continued to get increasingly worse. I never understood the fuss over her performance in who's afraid of Virginia Woolf. Because she wore padding and a grey wig, many people, including the critics confused that with great acting. For me, the loud, foul mouthed character that she played in the film was just an extension of Taylor.
Considering that the average time of star in the spotlight is supposed to be seven years, there were many who were big names in the Golden Age who had their place in the sun for a time, and then faded, although many of them lasted more than double that time. Paulette Goddard, Veronica Lake are just two that come to mind, most stars at that time appeared in stinkers, some came back with a strong part in a great film, others weren't so lucky. There was a saying in Hollywood, "Three Flops and Your Out!"”
“There was a time, around 1950 when we were both teenagers, that I quite liked Taylor, particularly in Little Women, A Place in the Sun, and Father of the Bride. It was after she got together with Mike Todd, Eddie Fisher and then Burton that she began to become a colossal bore. She didn't have a hit film after The Taming of the Shrew, but she kept on churning them out, and they continued to get increasingly worse. I never understood the fuss over her performance in who's afraid of Virginia Woolf. Because she wore padding and a grey wig, many people, including the critics confused that with great acting. For me, the loud, foul mouthed character that she played in the film was just an extension of Taylor.
Considering that the average time of star in the spotlight is supposed to be seven years, there were many who were big names in the Golden Age who had their place in the sun for a time, and then faded, although many of them lasted more than double that time. Paulette Goddard, Veronica Lake are just two that come to mind, most stars at that time appeared in stinkers, some came back with a strong part in a great film, others weren't so lucky. There was a saying in Hollywood, "Three Flops and Your Out!"”
I think it must be very difficult to master the art of bowing out of your main film career on a perfect high!Do you think anyone from the golden era managed this?
It does however seem to be a semi rule of thumb that character actresses/actors have longer careers than the others_as it should be.
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Youve selected some real golden classics there!Youve deprived yourself for years if youve never seen a Katherine Hepburn film-an extremly intelligent actress who wasnt overly showbizzy.
I think it must be very difficult to master the art of bowing out of your main film career on a perfect high!Do you think anyone from the golden era managed this?
It does however seem to be a semi rule of thumb that character actresses/actors have longer careers than the others_as it should be.”
“Youve selected some real golden classics there!Youve deprived yourself for years if youve never seen a Katherine Hepburn film-an extremly intelligent actress who wasnt overly showbizzy.
I think it must be very difficult to master the art of bowing out of your main film career on a perfect high!Do you think anyone from the golden era managed this?
It does however seem to be a semi rule of thumb that character actresses/actors have longer careers than the others_as it should be.”
I would say that Katie Hepburn bowed out on a perfect high, she was the only actress in her 60's and 70's who continued to get quality roles, and won three Best Actress Oscars between 1967 and 1982. Then there was Henry Fonda who starred with Katie in his last film, On Golden Pond, won his only Best Actor Oscar, and died five months.
later.
Others, like Greer Garson and Paulette Goddard married well, Greer wed Oil Millionaire Buddy Fogelson, and worked when she felt like it. She took over the Broadway role of Auntie Mame from Roz Russell when Roz went to Warner's to do the film version, which became that studio's biggest hit of 1958. Roz did some very prestigious films in the 1960's like Gypsy, and Five Finger Exercise. She was presented with the well deserved Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award in 1973 for all her charity work which she worked at tirelessly, even though she was riddled with arthritis, and the cancer that killed her in 1976.
Doris Day retired after her last TV show closed in 1986, she devotes all of her time to her animal charities, and seems to have had a happy and fulfilling retirement.
Others like Joan Crawford and Marlene Dietrich just shut themselves away in their apartments when they got to the age where they could no longer preserve their glamorous image. They preferred that their fans remembered them as they were in their hey day, and they had certainly earned their right to end their days privately.
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“I would say that Katie Hepburn bowed out on a perfect high, she was the only actress in her 60's and 70's who continued to get quality roles, and won three Best Actress Oscars between 1967 and 1982. Then there was Henry Fonda who starred with Katie in his last film, On Golden Pond, won his only Best Actor Oscar, and died five months.
later.
Others, like Greer Garson and Paulette Goddard married well, Greer wed Oil Millionaire Buddy Fogelson, and worked when she felt like it. She took over the Broadway role of Auntie Mame from Roz Russell when Roz went to Warner's to do the film version, which became that studio's biggest hit of 1958. Roz did some very prestigious films in the 1960's like Gypsy, and Five Finger Exercise. She was presented with the well deserved Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award in 1973 for all her charity work which she worked at tirelessly, even though she was riddled with arthritis, and the cancer that killed her in 1976.
Doris Day retired after her last TV show closed in 1986, she devotes all of her time to her animal charities, and seems to have had a happy and fulfilling retirement.
Others like Joan Crawford and Marlene Dietrich just shut themselves away in their apartments when they got to the age where they could no longer preserve their glamorous image. They preferred that their fans remembered them as they were in their hey day, and they had certainly earned their right to end their days privately.”
“I would say that Katie Hepburn bowed out on a perfect high, she was the only actress in her 60's and 70's who continued to get quality roles, and won three Best Actress Oscars between 1967 and 1982. Then there was Henry Fonda who starred with Katie in his last film, On Golden Pond, won his only Best Actor Oscar, and died five months.
later.
Others, like Greer Garson and Paulette Goddard married well, Greer wed Oil Millionaire Buddy Fogelson, and worked when she felt like it. She took over the Broadway role of Auntie Mame from Roz Russell when Roz went to Warner's to do the film version, which became that studio's biggest hit of 1958. Roz did some very prestigious films in the 1960's like Gypsy, and Five Finger Exercise. She was presented with the well deserved Jean Hersholt Humanitarian Award in 1973 for all her charity work which she worked at tirelessly, even though she was riddled with arthritis, and the cancer that killed her in 1976.
Doris Day retired after her last TV show closed in 1986, she devotes all of her time to her animal charities, and seems to have had a happy and fulfilling retirement.
Others like Joan Crawford and Marlene Dietrich just shut themselves away in their apartments when they got to the age where they could no longer preserve their glamorous image. They preferred that their fans remembered them as they were in their hey day, and they had certainly earned their right to end their days privately.”
Can you think of any golden era stars who quit their career too early?Who jumped before their star faded but in retrospect may have jumped too early leaving much missed opportunity and untapped potential?
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Can you think of any golden era stars who quit their career too early?Who jumped before their star faded but in retrospect may have jumped too early leaving much missed opportunity and untapped potential?”
“Can you think of any golden era stars who quit their career too early?Who jumped before their star faded but in retrospect may have jumped too early leaving much missed opportunity and untapped potential?”
Deanna Durbin was one of the biggest stars of the forties but retired before she was 27 and has been largely forgotten.
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