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I think her autobiography's going to be on my Christmas list. Sounds like an interesting read.
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I think her autobiography's going to be on my Christmas list. Sounds like an interesting read.
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Barbara and Ava were never friends, and when she found out that Bob Taylor had fallen for Lana Turner while filming Johnny Eager in 1941, she never spoke to her again, and snubbed her when Lana invited her for a drink when they were staying at the same hotel. I believe that Barbara was very insecure, especially as she was married to a handsome heartthrob who was four years her junior, she was also very possessive.
When she heard rumours about his infidelities while he was filming Quo Vadis in Rome, she flew out to confront him, even though she was terrified of flying. I have some of the most marvellous photo's of them in Rome, and they looked like a honeymoon couple. Barbara must have given the performance of her life, because her heart must have been breaking. She flew back to L.A. and shortly afterwards announced that she was suing for divorce. It was said that she told him, "You can have your divorce, but I will bleed you dry," and she meant it, he paid her alimony till the day he died. This was her way of hanging on to him, and a perfect example of "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." She certainly didn't need the money, she was a very wealthy woman. In 1943 the US Treasury announced that she was the highest paid woman in the United States, earning $323.333. Bill Holden was her closest male friend from when they met on the set of Golden Boy in 1939. He was always her "Golden Boy" and to him she was "The Queen" Robert Stack was another good friend from around the same time, and he was almost her leading man. He started filming on The Other Love in late 1946 but became very ill, he was replaced by Richard Conte, who I must say was wonderful as her other love, (David Niven was her leading man). Henry Fonda was another dear friend, as was Joel McCrea, Fred MacMurray, Robert Preston, Cesar Romero, Gilbert Roland, and Ray Milland Thanks for your kind words about my knowledge of the Golden Age of Hollywood, and yes, I will be delighted to answer any questions if I can. I must warn you though that I know absolutely NOTHING about modern films, and I have never seen Star Wars, nor do I have any interest in doing so. Coincidentally, Barbara and Bill Holden were at the Oscars to present the Oscar for best sound recording to, Star Wars! ![]() Oh Cesar Romero is not someone I know much about -Could you please place him in context for me please? |
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Good choice you won't regret it!
Would you see that a lot of this eras leading ladies were highly insecure and would this in part explain how they behaved as they did -fear of losing their men? Eg Joan Crawford and Bette Davis? Oh Cesar Romero is not someone I know much about -Could you please place him in context for me please? ![]() Cesar was born in New York in 1907, the same city and same year as Barbara, he was half Cuban, half Italian. He was known affectionately by his friends as "Butch", and "The Latin from Manhattan". He played Latin lovers in films from the 1930's till the 1960's. He also played the Cisco Kid in six Westerns between 1939 and 1941. He worked with Barbara in Always Goodbye (1938) at 20th Century Fox, and appeared opposite Betty Grable and Carmen Miranda in that studio's Technicolor musicals all through the 1940's. He starred opposite his best friend Tyrone Power in The Captain from Castille in 1947. It has also been said that he and Power were lovers. He had great success on TV when he players The Joker in Batman. One of his last TV appearances was as Sophia's Latin Lover in The Golden Girls. Marlene Dietrich was once quoted as saying, "Romero is the queen of homosexuals, there isn't a gay in Hollywood who hasn't been there!"
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I am sure that Barbara, Bette, and Joan's lack of a father figure had a lot to do with their insecurity. I have always thought that Bette was getting her own back at her cold, unfeeling father by putting most of the men in her life through hell.
![]() Cesar was born in New York in 1907, the same city and same year as Barbara, he was half Cuban, half Italian. He was known affectionately by his friends as "Butch", and "The Latin from Manhattan". He played Latin lovers in films from the 1930's till the 1960's. He also played the Cisco Kid in six Westerns between 1939 and 1941. He worked with Barbara in Always Goodbye (1938) at 20th Century Fox, and appeared opposite Betty Grable and Carmen Miranda in that studio's Technicolor musicals all through the 1940's. He starred opposite his best friend Tyrone Power in The Captain from Castille in 1947. It has also been said that he and Power were lovers. He had great success on TV when he players The Joker in Batman. One of his last TV appearances was as Sophia's Latin Lover in The Golden Girls. Marlene Dietrich was once quoted as saying, "Romero is the queen of homosexuals, there isn't a gay in Hollywood who hasn't been there!" ![]() Am I right in thinking that one of her husbands committed suicide or am I getting confused with another Hollywood lady of this era? So Cesar wasn't someone then who did as Rock Hudson did and marry with studio support in order to hide his sexualiity? Although I'm assuming that it wasn't public knowledge? Was he friends with Barbara? I saw a beautiful picture recently of a golden era actress called Jean Peters - Are you familiar with her? |
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I think your theory about Bette Davis sounds highly plausible! 😁
Am I right in thinking that one of her husbands committed suicide or am I getting confused with another Hollywood lady of this era? So Cesar wasn't someone then who did as Rock Hudson did and marry with studio support in order to hide his sexualiity? Although I'm assuming that it wasn't public knowledge? Was he friends with Barbara? I saw a beautiful picture recently of a golden era actress called Jean Peters - Are you familiar with her? I think that most of Hollywood knew about Cesar, but he wasn't in the star bracket that Rock was, so he was able to live his own life, although I am sure that he was very discreet, especially as he worked at 20th Century Fox run by the homophobic macho man, Darryl F Zanuck. Barbara and Cesar were great friends, and in fact if you look in the photo album, "Barbara With Friends and Colleagues" in my group, you will find many photo's of them together. On that subject, for anyone who doesn't know, I have been running a group for Barbara Stanwyck for the past eleven years. We have 190 members and the albums contain 18.363 photo's and I am adding to them every day. If you are interested, just go to this link: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/MissBarbaraStanwyck I LOVED Jean Peters, a gorgeous girl and a terrific actress who signed a seven year contract with 20th Century Fox in 1947. She replaced Linda Darnell in her first film, The Captain From Castille, opposite Tyrone Power. She starred with Brando in Viva Zapata, and had one of her best role opposite Richard Widmark in Pickup on South Street. She was delightful as the pretty young housewife in Niagara, and not overshadowed by the hip rolling Marilyn who became a world star after her terrific performance in her first starring role. Incidentally, Jean became very good friends with Marilyn at Fox, they had earlier worked in the comedy As Young as You Feel, before Marilyn had become a star. Jean appeared in several other hit films like Three Coins in the Fountain and Broken Lance. She seemed to lose interest in her career when she married eccentric producer and recluse, Howard Hughes. I saw her in her last role which was in the TV series Murder She Wrote. Jean died of leukemia in October 2000, two days before her 74th birthday. |
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Bette's second husband Arthur Farnsworth died of a brain haemorrhage, the result of a fracture to his skull after a fall some weeks before. What is rather odd is the fact that she admitted in her autobiography that she had seen him fall down the stairs in their home, but said at the inquest that she had no idea how it had happened. Some Hollywood insiders reckoned that she had pushed him, but I guess we will never know.
I think that most of Hollywood knew about Cesar, but he wasn't in the star bracket that Rock was, so he was able to live his own life, although I am sure that he was very discreet, especially as he worked at 20th Century Fox run by the homophobic macho man, Darryl F Zanuck. Barbara and Cesar were great friends, and in fact if you look in the photo album, "Barbara With Friends and Colleagues" in my group, you will find many photo's of them together. On that subject, for anyone who doesn't know, I have been running a group for Barbara Stanwyck for the past eleven years. We have 190 members and the albums contain 18.363 photo's and I am adding to them every day. If you are interested, just go to this link: www.groups.yahoo.com/group/MissBarbaraStanwyck I LOVED Jean Peters, a gorgeous girl and a terrific actress who signed a seven year contract with 20th Century Fox in 1947. She replaced Linda Darnell in her first film, The Captain From Castille, opposite Tyrone Power. She starred with Brando in Viva Zapata, and had one of her best role opposite Richard Widmark in Pickup on South Street. She was delightful as the pretty young housewife in Niagara, and not overshadowed by the hip rolling Marilyn who became a world star after her terrific performance in her first starring role. Incidentally, Jean became very good friends with Marilyn at Fox, they had earlier worked in the comedy As Young as You Feel, before Marilyn had become a star. Jean appeared in several other hit films like Three Coins in the Fountain and Broken Lance. She seemed to lose interest in her career when she married eccentric producer and recluse, Howard Hughes. I saw her in her last role which was in the TV series Murder She Wrote. Jean died of leukemia in October 2000, two days before her 74th birthday. That sounds quite sinister about Bette but of course it's ultimately speculative. However while Bette Davis verbal gymnastics and acid tongue was well known did she have a reputation or panache for physical skirmishes or clashes even if it were at the lighter end of the spectrum like hair pulling or slapping people across the face. Was she ever known to be difficult in this regard? A few more questions if I may please. Was Cesar lovers (rumoured even) with any well known actors maybe even Rock Hudson himself? Was Jean Peters married to Howard Hughes at the time of his death and if so I assume she became exceptionally wealthy? |
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That sounds quite sinister about Bette but of course it's ultimately speculative. However while Bette Davis verbal gymnastics and acid tongue was well known did she have a reputation or panache for physical skirmishes or clashes even if it were at the lighter end of the spectrum like hair pulling or slapping people across the face. Was she ever known to be difficult in this regard?
A few more questions if I may please. Was Cesar lovers (rumoured even) with any well known actors maybe even Rock Hudson himself? Was Jean Peters married to Howard Hughes at the time of his death and if so I assume she became exceptionally wealthy? Director Edmund Goulding warned Joe Mankiewicz that she would take over directing the film when she was signed to star in All About Eve. Mankiewicz later said that she was a dream to work with. Probably because she respected this genius who was not only a great director, but he had also written the screenplay, which was just about the most brilliant, articulate, and wittiest scripts ever written. Even so, Celeste Holm said that she was nasty to her on the first day of filming. Celeste walked on the set and greeted everyone with a cheery "Good Morning!" and all she got from Bette was, "Oh SHIT! good manners!" ![]() I think that Bette liked to take control, and she once made a curious statement, "A happy set doesn't produce good films!" She was vile to director Irvine Rapper, who directed one of her best films, Now Voyager. I met him at the Mayfair Hotel in the 1970's, and he said that after finishing that film he directed Barbara in The Gay Sisters, (which Bette had turned down). He said the contrast was unbelievable, as Barbara's sets were always happy and relaxed, with lots of laughs and general good humour. She was really nasty to Joan Crawford while working on Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte, so bad in fact that Joan faked sickness, went to hospital, and was replaced by Bette's friend, Olivia de Havilland. I was surprised that Joan didn't stand up to her, because she could be pretty tough too. But is seems that Joseph Cotton and Agnes Moorehead backed Bette, and Joan couldn't handle the three of them. I often wonder what would have happened of Barbara had taken over from Joan, but she said that if she had been offered it she would have checked with Joan first, "because Joan is a friend of mine." She was offered the small role of Jewel Mayhew but turned it down, and it was subsequently played by Mary Astor in her last screen performance. Bette of course had never forgiven Joan when she had phoned all the Best Actress Oscar Nominees of 1963 and offered to pick up their award if they won. Bette was convinced that she would be the first woman to win a third Oscar when she was Nominated for Baby Jane. When Anne Bancroft's name was announced as the winner Joan walked past Bette smiling triumphantly as she said, "Excuse me, I have an Oscar to collect" ![]() I don't think that she ever got into physical fights, but prior to working on Baby Jane, method actor Patrick O'Neal would probably have killed her if he hadn't been held back from strangling her when she appeared in The Night of the Iguana on Broadway in 1961. She had the hots for him and when he didn't respond she did everything to wind him up. He called her every name he could think of, including "You filthy Cu#t", and she just stood there with a smile on her face, she seemed to get a kick out of winding him up. It is no coincidence that her third husband threw her out of the car on their honeymoon. I honestly feel that she hated all men, and only really need them for sexual gratification. She was also jealous of Margaret Leighton who stole all the best notices. Luckily, Joan Crawford dropped into her dressing room one evening to talk to her about working together on Baby Jane. I have never heard of Cesar Romero dallying with anyone apart from Ty Power, they were very discreet back in those days, and they had a certain amount of protection from their very powerful studios. Jean Peters divorced Hughes in 1971, and another actress Terry Moore seemed to have been involved with him off and on between 1949 up to his death in 1976. She said that they had been married, but it has never been proved, but she did get $15.000.000 in his will. Coincidentally Terry also married Stuart Kramer after he was divorced from Jean Peters. |
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Wow Walter I knew that Bette Davis could more than hold her own in verbal gymnastics but I wasn't aware of all this other speculation of matters going further than verbal.
Do you think she had a very distorted view of men because of her father and consequently a distorted or disproportionate view of the treachery or behaviour of other women in relation to men? It seems to me that her difficulties in getting or keeping a man in a long term relationship were almost entirely blamed on other women? What I mean is her deep rage and enmity may in some senses let the men of the hook and it's other females who get the lionshare of her enmity! She doesn't seem to have hated a man to the same extent that she hated /clashed with any women. I don't mean that in an unkind way but when she has it in for a woman it seems to become much more deep rooted. I don't know if I'm making sense! 😁 I recall Joan Collins saying that when she worked with Bette Davis on a film when she was young she recalls all the young women on set including herself being terrified of her! Was Tyrone Power ever married? A random question -Was Bette Davis or Joan Crawford ever friends with Zsa Zsa Gabor? |
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Wow Walter I knew that Bette Davis could more than hold her own in verbal gymnastics but I wasn't aware of all this other speculation of matters going further than verbal.
Do you think she had a very distorted view of men because of her father and consequently a distorted or disproportionate view of the treachery or behaviour of other women in relation to men? It seems to me that her difficulties in getting or keeping a man in a long term relationship were almost entirely blamed on other women? What I mean is her deep rage and enmity may in some senses let the men of the hook and it's other females who get the lionshare of her enmity! She doesn't seem to have hated a man to the same extent that she hated /clashed with any women. I don't mean that in an unkind way but when she has it in for a woman it seems to become much more deep rooted. I don't know if I'm making sense! 😁 I recall Joan Collins saying that when she worked with Bette Davis on a film when she was young she recalls all the young women on set including herself being terrified of her! Was Tyrone Power ever married? A random question -Was Bette Davis or Joan Crawford ever friends with Zsa Zsa Gabor? Lets just say that Bette seemed to punish all the men in her life as a revenge on her father for abandoning her and his family. She was jealous of colleagues like Joan Crawford, and even 93 year old Lilian Gish, who when someone praised her for a beautiful close up snapped, "She ought to know all about close ups, JESUS! she invented them." Easy to admire for her acting skills, but not easy to like I should imagine. No, Bette and Joan were not friends with Zsa, Zsa, I should thing that they would have had much in common. Bette always said that she preferred the company of writer and directors. She said when actors got together they usually ended up discussing the days rushes. Tyrone Power was married three times, first to French actress Annabella, then to actress Linda Christian who bore him two daughters, and then to Debbie Minardos who bore him a son, Tyrone Power lll, months after his father died. |
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I have spent over two hour replying to your message, and the whole bloody thing has just disappeared. I don't know what the hell is going on with this Forum, I couldn't get in here for most of yesterday. Anyway, I am going to make this short, because I can't type it all out again.
Lets just say that Bette seemed to punish all the men in her life as a revenge on her father for abandoning her and his family. She was jealous of colleagues like Joan Crawford, and even 93 year old Lilian Gish, who when someone praised her for a beautiful close up snapped, "She ought to know all about close ups, JESUS! she invented them." Easy to admire for her acting skills, but not easy to like I should imagine. No, Bette and Joan were not friends with Zsa, Zsa, I should thing that they would have had much in common. Bette always said that she preferred the company of writer and directors. She said when actors got together they usually ended up discussing the days rushes. Tyrone Power was married three times, first to French actress Annabella, then to actress Linda Christian who bore him two daughters, and then to Debbie Minardos who bore him a son, Tyrone Power lll, months after his father died. Are you saying that Tyrone Power became a father after he died? So sad if true ![]() Did any of his children go on to become actors? I can only imagine that Bette on one level was always very unhappy in life but with respite moments of fulfillment like in her career? I think being so angry isn't compatible with being happy. Oh BTW are Shirley Maclaine and Warren Beatty full siblings or half siblings? |
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Thanks for your patience and for perserving Walter -I really hope that digital spy sort this out ASAP.
Are you saying that Tyrone Power became a father after he died? So sad if true ![]() Did any of his children go on to become actors? I can only imagine that Bette on one level was always very unhappy in life but with respite moments of fulfillment like in her career? I think being so angry isn't compatible with being happy. Oh BTW are Shirley Maclaine and Warren Beatty full siblings or half siblings? Tyrone jnr seems to have appeared in a lot of films, but it doesn't look as if he has made much of an impression. Romina Power, Tyrone's eldest daughter at 64 is a singer and actress. Taryn, 62, is also an actress. Shirley and Warren are full sibling's, her real name is Beatty. |
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Tyrone Power died November 15th 1958, and his son was born just two months later, and at 56, is twelve years older than his father when he died.
Tyrone jnr seems to have appeared in a lot of films, but it doesn't look as if he has made much of an impression. Romina Power, Tyrone's eldest daughter at 64 is a singer and actress. Taryn, 62, is also an actress. Shirley and Warren are full sibling's, her real name is Beatty. ![]() Just a couple of quickies--May I ask what it was that appealled to you so much about Jean Peters as I hadnt quite expected her to have been on your radar so much!And do you consider her to have been underappreciated by the hollywood system at the time? Also while looking through a book on Cary Grant in my local library I was astounded to discover that Cary Grant never won an Oscar and was eventually given an honorary Oscar after much lobbying to the academy by Gregory Peck of all people! I realise it wont be new information to you but it certainly surprised me! |
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Cheers as always for the information Walter
![]() Just a couple of quickies--May I ask what it was that appealled to you so much about Jean Peters as I hadnt quite expected her to have been on your radar so much!And do you consider her to have been underappreciated by the hollywood system at the time? Also while looking through a book on Cary Grant in my local library I was astounded to discover that Cary Grant never won an Oscar and was eventually given an honorary Oscar after much lobbying to the academy by Gregory Peck of all people! I realise it wont be new information to you but it certainly surprised me! I think that I mentioned in an earlier post that Cary Grant like Barbara, was one of the few big stars who preferred to freelance rather than be tied to one studio. This made them both very rich, but they always missed out at Oscar time. What other reason could there be when James Stewart won the Best Actor Oscar for The Philadelphia Story, and Cary wasn't even Nominated for his performance. It was no coincidence that Stewart was under contract to the mighty MGM, and so they had every reason to campaign for him. Cary was only Nominated twice, which was a disgrace, at least Barbara received four Oscar Nominations, but it also meant four different years of humiliation. She was known as the greatest actress never to win an Oscar. |
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Walter were there any other big stars of this era who were nominated for Oscars a number of times and didnt win AND were never awarded an honorary Oscar later on? There but for the grace of God Maureen O'Hara would have fallen into this category if it wasnt for her award from the academy in 2014.
In terms of Jean Peters marrying Howard Hughes ,broadening it out a bit Did many bigshot people in Hollywood or rather who ran Hollywood I specifically mean the movie moguls ,marry or seek to marry any of the leading ladies/up and coming actresses/starlets of the time?Indeed did many actresses in the reverse of that actively seek out moguls to marry or date?
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Walter were there any other big stars of this era who were nominated for Oscars a number of times and didnt win AND were never awarded an honorary Oscar later on? There but for the grace of God Maureen O'Hara would have fallen into this category if it wasnt for her award from the academy in 2014.
In terms of Jean Peters marrying Howard Hughes ,broadening it out a bit Did many bigshot people in Hollywood or rather who ran Hollywood I specifically mean the movie moguls ,marry or seek to marry any of the leading ladies/up and coming actresses/starlets of the time?Indeed did many actresses in the reverse of that actively seek out moguls to marry or date? ![]() She also deserved a Nomination for her role in Titanic (1953) in which she played a character based on "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" and Hitchcock's Rear Window. Ironically, Thelma co-hosted the Oscar ceremony in 1954, trading wisecracks with Bob Hope. When it comes to Movie Mogul's and starlet's, the first name that comes to mind is a Polish girl who was born, Bajler Wegier. Discovered in Paris by Darryl Zanuck's wife Virginia in 1952, she soon moved in to the Zanuck's home and signed a contact with 20th Century Fox in 1953. Before her film debut in Hell and High Water her name was changed to Bella Darvi, her surname being a combination of Darryl and Virginia's Zanuck's first names. Darvi soon became Zanuck's mistress, but her first three films were all flops, and audiences just didn't warm to her. Zanuck left his wife for Darvi, and then in turn left her when he discovered that she was bisexual. Her Hollywood career over, she ended up in undistinguished French and Italian productions. After several attempts at suicide, she finally succeeded by gassing herself in her Monte Carlo apartment, her body lay undiscovered for a week. |
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Thelma Ritter may not have been a big star, but she was probably the most beloved of any character actresses in Hollywood's history. She received SIX Best Supporting Actress Nomination's, and lost every time, she deserved to win for ALL of them, All About Eve (1950) The Mating Season (1951) With a Song in My Heart (1952) Pickup on South Street (1953) Pillow Talk (1959) and Birdman of Alcatraz (1962)
She also deserved a Nomination for her role in Titanic (1953) in which she played a character based on "The Unsinkable Molly Brown" and Hitchcock's Rear Window. Ironically, Thelma co-hosted the Oscar ceremony in 1954, trading wisecracks with Bob Hope. When it comes to Movie Mogul's and starlet's, the first name that comes to mind is a Polish girl who was born, Bajler Wegier. Discovered in Paris by Darryl Zanuck's wife Virginia in 1952, she soon moved in to the Zanuck's home and signed a contact with 20th Century Fox in 1953. Before her film debut in Hell and High Water her name was changed to Bella Darvi, her surname being a combination of Darryl and Virginia's Zanuck's first names. Darvi soon became Zanuck's mistress, but her first three films were all flops, and audiences just didn't warm to her. Zanuck left his wife for Darvi, and then in turn left her when he discovered that she was bisexual. Her Hollywood career over, she ended up in undistinguished French and Italian productions. After several attempts at suicide, she finally succeeded by gassing herself in her Monte Carlo apartment, her body lay undiscovered for a week. You may have noticed that I have left a thread about the death of Betsy Drake, the third Mrs Cary Grant. RIP Betsy x |
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I have noticed and have commented on it but I won't say too much here as I don't want to subtract from your thread were people should comment on this sad news
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I actually deleted that bit from my last message when I saw that you had replied to my other thread about Betsy, but you must have replied to it as it was being deleted.
![]() So Cary's ex Dyan Cannon is still alive and in her 70s. I bet she has some tales to tell if she ever wrote an autobiography if indeed she hasn't already? I assume being Cary Grants wife means she likely met many of the big stars of the era including Barbara Stanwyck? |
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No worries just one of those quirky coincidences of time in forum life!
So Cary's ex Dyan Cannon is still alive and in her 70s. I bet she has some tales to tell if she ever wrote an autobiography if indeed she hasn't already? I assume being Cary Grants wife means she likely met many of the big stars of the era including Barbara Stanwyck? ![]() Don't know whether she ever met Barbara, all they had in common was that Cannon did an appalling remake of Barbara's hit film "Christmas in Connecticut", this big flop was directed by Arnold Schwartznegger. ![]() I know Barbara admired Cary very much, but I have only got one photo of them together. |
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She is four months older than me, never understood her appeal, and can't say I am surprised that her career came to a full stop. I always thought that she was quite ugly, and she has had so much plastic surgery that to quote Joan Rivers, "She has been pulled so tight that when she crosses her legs her jaw drops open".
![]() Don't know whether she ever met Barbara, all they had in common was that Cannon did an appalling remake of Barbara's hit film "Christmas in Connecticut", this big flop was directed by Arnold Schwartznegger. ![]() I know Barbara admired Cary very much, but I have only got one photo of them together. ![]() In terms of Barbara Stanwyck do you think that if she'd have lived longer that she'd have ever had any intention of writing an autobiography? Do you think she had a crush on any of her dapper leading men? On another note was Lauren Bacalls 2nd husband Jason Robards considered to be a significant figure from this era? I saw him in One of his last films in the 1990s and I thought he was very good. |
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Goodness me Dyan Cannon must have been bad for her cosmetic surgery if Joan Rivers mocked her as she wasn't adverse to a bit of it herself!
![]() In terms of Barbara Stanwyck do you think that if she'd have lived longer that she'd have ever had any intention of writing an autobiography? Do you think she had a crush on any of her dapper leading men? On another note was Lauren Bacalls 2nd husband Jason Robards considered to be a significant figure from this era? I saw him in One of his last films in the 1990s and I thought he was very good. I think the only leading man that she ever had a crush on was Robert Taylor, and they were already an item when they co starred in their first film in 1936, they married three years later. Several of her leading men fell for her, most notably Henry Fonda, who admitted it publically at his AFI Award show in 1978. "I fell in love with Barbara when we made The Lady Eve" and I have been in love with her ever since, my wife and family have learned to live with it." Barbara sat in the audience smiling happily, obviously very proud of this very public tribute from her favourite leading man. ![]() Robert Cummings had such a crush on her when they were filming The Bride Wore Boots that he kept fluffing his lines. Barbara had her own technique for calming him down. In between scenes she would whisper in his ear, "Come on Bob, you know you want to f### me, admit it, you'd love to f###." I love that story, it shows that she was a real down to earth woman who hadn't forgot her Brooklyn roots, or the language that she had learned as a young kid in the Bronx, and teenage chorus girl. ![]() Jason Robards had more success on stage than in films, I only saw him in Tender is the Night, which was a flop. Although I hear that he gave his best performance as Howard Hughes in Howard and Melvin. |
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Barbara did think about writing her autobiography back in the 1950's, she even had a title for it, "I Never Had a Doll." She then decided that it would be too painful reliving the sad events of her marriage break up, and so nothing came of it.
I think the only leading man that she ever had a crush on was Robert Taylor, and they were already an item when they co starred in their first film in 1936, they married three years later. Several of her leading men fell for her, most notably Henry Fonda, who admitted it publically at his AFI Award show in 1978. "I fell in love with Barbara when we made The Lady Eve" and I have been in love with her ever since, my wife and family have learned to live with it." Barbara sat in the audience smiling happily, obviously very proud of this very public tribute from her favourite leading man. ![]() Robert Cummings had such a crush on her when they were filming The Bride Wore Boots that he kept fluffing his lines. Barbara had her own technique for calming him down. In between scenes she would whisper in his ear, "Come on Bob, you know you want to f### me, admit it, you'd love to f###." I love that story, it shows that she was a real down to earth woman who hadn't forgot her Brooklyn roots, or the language that she had learned as a young kid in the Bronx, and teenage chorus girl. ![]() Jason Robards had more success on stage than in films, I only saw him in Tender is the Night, which was a flop. Although I hear that he gave his best performance as Howard Hughes in Howard and Melvin. ![]() ![]() Do you know if the house she lived in in Los Angeles at the time of her passing in 1990 has or was bought by a fellow star afterwards.Its just that I noticed over the years that a lot of stars live in or have bought homes once owned by former stars especially from the legendary golden era of Hollywood? Also have many of the younger stars in more recent decades cited Barbara as a key influence/inspiration?
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Goodness Walter Barbara really could be a little mischevious and naughty when she wanted to be!!
![]() ![]() Do you know if the house she lived in in Los Angeles at the time of her passing in 1990 has or was bought by a fellow star afterwards.Its just that I noticed over the years that a lot of stars live in or have bought homes once owned by former stars especially from the legendary golden era of Hollywood? Also have many of the younger stars in more recent decades cited Barbara as a key influence/inspiration? ![]() The "God Damn" was The Gay Sisters, and the "Oh Christ!" was Christmas in Connecticut, they come at the end of the video. I have no idea who now owns Barbara's last home, 1055 Loma Vista Drive, Beverley Hills. I took photo's of it when I went to Hollywood in 1979, and you can see them in our group photo album. Barbara is Laura Dern's favourite star, Sally Field is another big admirer, and narrated a wonderful documentary on her 20 years ago. Linda Evans, who played her daughter in their TV series The Big Valley, said that Barbara taught her everything she knows about acting and being professional, and that she was like her second Mom. |
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I can't imagine what Hilda's done to get a ban. Hopefully, it's a short temporary one.
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I can't imagine what Hilda's done to get a ban. Hopefully, it's a short temporary one.
![]() I was banned for a day last week after I got a bit mouthy in the Strictly Forum. In complete contrast, this Movie thread is so tranquil.
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