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Best supporting actress nominee and Bette Davis co-star Joan Lorring dies aged 88
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Dan Fortesque
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvIpps3hrFQ

Thought some fans of Golden era Hollywood might be interested in this little find.Its the first of a series of 3 videos of Joan talking to a European interviewer about her film career.

Ive never seen her in interview before and I found her surprisingly mesmerising/charismatic.

One snippet is that in one of her films which of course was in black and white when they digitised it and made it into colour on DVD they made a dark blue dress her character wore yellow because whoever digitised it felt it looked better.Well naturally Joan was not Happy as she feels I think the colours and designs were all chosen by the storyteller and is thus the storytellers pregorative and blue was chosen for a reason carefully for that character on set .

I will be watching the other interviews later.

Yes Walter Ive just given myself a big pat on the back!!

Congratulations on your legendary discipline and determination helping you to break another record!

Dan F Thanks so much for highlighting the details of that facebook golden era picture-Is it a facebook group your a member of I take it? If so perhaps you could alert the group to this thread and perhaps some of their passion could travel over here too!!”

Yes, sorry about that. The picture showed up on my news feed and I assumed it was one of those public pages that everyone can see, until I looked again after reading Walter's post. I think I've lost count of the number of groups I've joined and pages I've liked. Will go and have a nosey later and see if I can slot it in somewhere about this thread.
Walter Neff
05-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Yes indeed she is very wonderful! She definitely speaks her mind and I intend to trawl through the Internet to find more video interviews of her to watch. It's a shame she became so reclusive in her later years as she's a shrewd observer of the world of Hollywood and fame she was a part of.

She also seems to speak well of Hitchcock and defends him a bit certainly more so than some of his other leading ladies.”

She looked wonderful in that red suit, and wore something very similar when I saw her in 1978, or maybe it was the same one. I loved her as soon as she stepped out of her limousine and stated in a very no nonsense voice, "I'd like to inspect the stage"

She obviously took great care of how she was presented, and like so many of the great stars knew all about the best way to be lit. I was right up close to her when she was signing her book for me, she was very beautiful, and was 71 at that time.
Walter Neff
06-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“She looked wonderful in that red suit, and wore something very similar when I saw her in 1978, or maybe it was the same one. I loved her as soon as she stepped out of her limousine and stated in a very no nonsense voice, "I'd like to inspect the stage"

She obviously took great care of how she was presented, and like so many of the great stars knew all about the best way to be lit. I was right up close to her when she was signing her book for me, she was very beautiful, and was 71 at the time.”

I am glad that I am able to correct my mistake before anyone else noticed it. Joan was of course 61 in 1978, and still looked damned good for her age.
manderley
07-06-2016
Hi folks, I'm still in Canada and able to watch and able to watch the US version of TCM which has a great selection of classic movies.

Just watched a tribute to Barbara by actress Laura Dern with some clips of her movies which was a real treat.
Walter, I know that Stella Dallas is not your favourite Barbara movie but the final scene when she conveys all that emotion with no dialogue is amazing, real tearjerker.

On a sadder note, Robert Osborne has been missing for several weeks and is believed to be having some health problems. Hope he is back soon although Ben Mankiewicz is a very effective host.
Walter Neff
07-06-2016
Originally Posted by manderley:
“Hi folks, I'm still in Canada and able to watch and able to watch the US version of TCM which has a great selection of classic movies.

Just watched a tribute to Barbara by actress Laura Dern with some clips of her movies which was a real treat.
Walter, I know that Stella Dallas is not your favourite Barbara movie but the final scene when she conveys all that emotion with no dialogue is amazing, real tearjerker.

On a sadder note, Robert Osborne has been missing for several weeks and is believed to be having some health problems. Hope he is back soon although Ben Mankiewicz is a very effective host.”

That Laura Dern tribute is one of the best that I have seen, probably because she really is a genuine fan, and that comes across in just seven minutes, where she managed to cram in so many great clips of some of Barbara's best films.

Yes, that is a marvellous scene from Stella Dallas, and although it is not one of my favourites, it is certainly not because of her performance.

I have put a link in here before, but here it is again for anyone who hasn't seen it, do watch it is a real treat, and shows just how versatile she was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Aqj9MivCgQ

Very sad to hear about Robert Osborne, he did look frail the last time that I saw him. I loved watching his introduction to Barbara's films because he really knows what he is talking about, and so many of the so called experts don't.

On a completely different subject, I was interviewed by phone on ITV's "This Morning"
yesterday. They wanted to chat to viewers who are still having fun in their old age, so I sent them some of my London Marathon photo's, and they phoned me and I chatted to Phillip Schofield and Holly Willoughby while they showed my photo's onscreen.

That is three TV appearances this year, and it's only June.
CLL Dodge
08-06-2016
The July issue of Sight and Sound has a 5 page feature on "the last of the great pre-World War II Hollywood stars": Olivia de Havilland, of course. Her run-in with Warner Brothers boss Jack Warner features heavily. Although she eventually won her case she was unable to make any films for 2 years at the height of her career. Warner even tried to have her banned from entertaining the troops.

As the feature writer says "When we think of actresses who fought for their careers we think of [Bette] Davis, Joan Crawford, Barbara Stanwyck; we should think too of de Havilland, who fought as hard, or harder, than any of them".
Walter Neff
08-06-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“The July issue of Sight and Sound has a 5 page feature on "the last of the great pre-World War II Hollywood stars": Olivia de Havilland, of course. Her run-in with Warner Brothers boss Jack Warner features heavily. Although she eventually won her case she was unable to make any films for 2 years at the height of her career. Warner even tried to have her banned from entertaining the troops.

As the feature writer says "When we think of actresses who fought for their careers we think of [Bette] Davis, Joan Crawford, Barbara Stanwyck; we should think too of de Havilland, who fought as hard, or harder, than any of them".”

Bette always credited her friend Olivia for winning the fight against Warner's that she lost in 1938. It was worth the two years away from films for Olivia, because she moved to Paramount and won her first Oscar for her performance in her second film for that studio, and winning her second just three years later.
Hildaonpluto
09-06-2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Axelrod#Films

Born on this day in 1922 was American film producer ,director and screenwriter George Axelrod.

He was a producer and writer on 1962 Film The Manchurian Candiate which starred Frank Sinatra and Angela Lansbury and also Marilyn Monroe film Bus stop.

He died in 2003
Hildaonpluto
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“She looked wonderful in that red suit, and wore something very similar when I saw her in 1978, or maybe it was the same one. I loved her as soon as she stepped out of her limousine and stated in a very no nonsense voice, "I'd like to inspect the stage"

She obviously took great care of how she was presented, and like so many of the great stars knew all about the best way to be lit. I was right up close to her when she was signing her book for me, she was very beautiful, and was 71 at that time.”

Shes also very easy to interview-Shes very open and eager to talk about her career in film,all things related to it and a lot of her personal stuff too.She would be a film historians dream.Such a shame she became quite reclusive in her later years.She had the exuberance of a true Hollywood star of this era without being over the yop.Understated but colourful?

What would you say was Joans favourite amongst her own films?

Who also were her Hollywood friends?
Walter Neff
09-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Shes also very easy to interview-Shes very open and eager to talk about her career in film,all things related to it and a lot of her personal stuff too.She would be a film historians dream.Such a shame she became quite reclusive in her later years.She had the exuberance of a true Hollywood star of this era without being over the yop.Understated but colourful?

What would you say was Joan's favourite amongst her own films?

Who also were her Hollywood friends?”

In one of the interviews Joan was asked about her favourite films, and of course Rebecca was among those mentioned. Other favourites were Jane Eyre opposite Orson Welles, and Letter From an Unknown Woman. She was particularly fond of The Constant Nymph, and her leading man Charles Boyer, she played a 14 year old girl when she was really 26. She was Nominated for a Best Actress Oscar, but lost to Jennifer Jones in the oh so dreary, Song of Bernadette. I always remember someone saying to me that they walked out of it when they discovered that it wasn't a Betty Grable musical.

I can't recall hearing about her friends, although I doubt if she had any in Hollywood, she hadn't lived there for years.
Walter Neff
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Axelrod#Films

Born on this day in 1922 was American film producer ,director and screenwriter George Axelrod.

He was a producer and writer on 1962 Film The Manchurian Candiate which starred Frank Sinatra and Angela Lansbury and also Marilyn Monroe film Bus stop.

He died in 2003”

Bus Stop was adapted from a William Inge play, but Axelrod did write the play The Seven Year Itch, which became the hit film for Marilyn, and her first to be directed by Billy Wilder.
Hildaonpluto
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“In one of the interviews Joan was asked about her favourite films, and of course Rebecca was among those mentioned. Other favourites were Jane Eyre opposite Orson Welles, and Letter From an Unknown Woman. She was particularly fond of The Constant Nymph, and her leading man Charles Boyer, she played a 14 year old girl when she was really 26. She was Nominated for a Best Actress Oscar, but lost to Jennifer Jones in the oh so dreary, Song of Bernadette. I always remember someone saying to me that they walked out of it when they discovered that it wasn't a Betty Grable musical.

I can't recall hearing about her friends, although I doubt if she had any in Hollywood, she hadn't lived there for years.”

Goodness me I cant imagine nowadays them being allowed to get away with a 26 year old playing a 14 year old especially if the role is provocative!!

Didn't she see out her final years in Carmel-California but miles away from Hollywood?I think its were Clint Eastwood was once a Mayor?

Im sure I read Jane wyman lived there too ?I got a signed autographed photo from Joan fontaine and going by memory it was sent to a postal box in Carmel.

On this day June 10th in 1996 Oscar winning Hollywood actress Jo Van Fleet died aged 80.

She won her Oscar for best supporting actress in East of Eden the legendary film.

She also featured in The Rose Tattoo in 1955 with Burt Lancaster and Anna Magnani who won an Oscar for her role.

Also known for 1960 film wild river Directed by Elia Kazan and also in the cast was Lee Remick and Montgomery Clift.Such was the esteemed quality of this film it was preserved in the National film registry USA
Walter Neff
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Goodness me I cant imagine nowadays them being allowed to get away with a 26 year old playing a 14 year old especially if the role is provocative!!

Didn't she see out her final years in Carmel-California but miles away from Hollywood?I think its were Clint Eastwood was once a Mayor?

Im sure I read Jane wyman lived there too ?I got a signed autographed photo from Joan fontaine and going by memory it was sent to a postal box in Carmel.

On this day June 10th in 1996 Oscar winning Hollywood actress Jo Van Fleet died aged 80.

She won her Oscar for best supporting actress in East of Eden the legendary film.

She also featured in The Rose Tattoo in 1955 with Burt Lancaster and Anna Magnani who won an Oscar for her role.

Also known for 1960 film wild river Directed by Elia Kazan and also in the cast was Lee Remick and Montgomery Clift.Such was the esteemed quality of this film it was preserved in the National film registry USA”

She certainly did live in Carmel, and only this morning I found a wonderful five minute interview between Joan and DORIS DAY! just google it on you tube and you will find it.

I just LOVED Jo Van Fleet, and thought that she should have won her Oscar that year for her amazing performance as Susan's Hayward's manipulative mother in I'll Cry Tomorrow. Interestingly enough, she was only two years older than Susan, but she had always played older characters, and Susan looked a good 15 years younger than her actual age.
Hildaonpluto
13-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“She certainly did live in Carmel, and only this morning I found a wonderful five minute interview between Joan and DORIS DAY! just google it on you tube and you will find it.

I just LOVED Jo Van Fleet, and thought that she should have won her Oscar that year for her amazing performance as Susan's Hayward's manipulative mother in I'll Cry Tomorrow. Interestingly enough, she was only two years older than Susan, but she had always played older characters, and Susan looked a good 15 years younger than her actual age. ”

I will certainly google that it sounds like it will be very camp in a film buff golden era lovers kind of way!
Hildaonpluto
13-06-2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wickes#Filmography

Born on this day June 13th in 1910 American actress Mary Wickes.

She starred in a number of notable films and whilst not a big player or household name she certainly starred in some well known films and rubbed shoulders with some of the the big players.She'd be 106 today!

She played the wisecracking nurse of Bette Davis ill character in Now Voyager one of Bettes best films and also starred with Bette Davis in The man who came to dinner and in I'll see you in my dreams with Doris Day and Danny Thomas.
Walter Neff
13-06-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Wickes#Filmography

Born on this day June 13th in 1910 American actress Mary Wickes.

She starred in a number of notable films and whilst not a big player or household name she certainly starred in some well known films and rubbed shoulders with some of the the big players.She'd be 106 today!

She played the wisecracking nurse of Bette Davis ill character in Now Voyager one of Bettes best films and also starred with Bette Davis in The man who came to dinner and in I'll see you in my dreams with Doris Day and Danny Thomas.”

Along with Thelma Ritter, Mary was one of those wonderful character actresses that popped up in so many films. I loved her opening line in Now Voyager when she introduced herself to Bette saying, "The name's Pickford, Dora, not Mary!"

It didn't take long for Bette to realise how lucky she was to have her on her side against her old witch of a mother, and said to her approvingly, "Dora, I suspect you're a treasure!"

Mary also appeared in Bette's June Bride, and played the same character of Stella the maid, in two of Doris Day most successful musical comedies, On Moonlight By, and By the Light of the Silvery Moon.

Sister Act and it's sequel was not the first time that Mary had played a nun. she was Sister Clarissa in the wonderful Roz Russell film The Trouble With Angels, and the less successful sequel, Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows.
DavidJ28
14-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“Along with Thelma Ritter, Mary was one of those wonderful character actresses that popped up in so many films. I loved her opening line in Now Voyager when she introduced herself to Bette saying, "The name's Pickford, Dora, not Mary!"

It didn't take long for Bette to realise how lucky she was to have her on her side against her old witch of a mother, and said to her approvingly, "Dora, I suspect you're a treasure!"

Mary also appeared in Bette's June Bride, and played the same character of Stella the maid, in two of Doris Day most successful musical comedies, On Moonlight By, and By the Light of the Silvery Moon.

Sister Act and it's sequel was not the first time that Mary had played a nun. she was Sister Clarissa in the wonderful Roz Russell film The Trouble With Angels, and the less successful sequel, Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows.”

Awwwwww I love Mary Wickes. Great actress. Loved her in the Doris Day movies Walter mentioned and in Father Dowling on TV
Walter Neff
14-06-2016
Originally Posted by DavidJ28:
“Awwwwww I love Mary Wickes. Great actress. Loved her in the Doris Day movies Walter mentioned and in Father Dowling on TV”

Yes, and I just realised that I mentioned On Moonlight By instead of Bay

Mary was very popular with her co-workers, and a very close friend of Lucille Ball, appearing in around 18 of her shows.

She was also the first person to play Mary Poppins, way back in 1949, in the early days of American Television.
DavidJ28
14-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“Yes, and I just realised that I mentioned On Moonlight By instead of Bay

Mary was very popular with her co-workers, and a very close friend of Lucille Ball, appearing in around 18 of her shows.

She was also the first person to play Mary Poppins, way back in 1949, in the early days of American Television.”

Lol, I never even noticed Walter.

I love hearing that someone you admire was nice and popular in real life.

Was this I Love Lucy, Walter?

Mary Poppins! Another bit of info I never knew.

I loved all those actresses in the 40's and 50's who played wise cracking gals. Like Eve Arnold and the actress who played Ma Kettle? Sorry, her name escapes me
Walter Neff
14-06-2016
Originally Posted by DavidJ28:
“Lol, I never even noticed Walter.

I love hearing that someone you admire was nice and popular in real life.

Was this I Love Lucy, Walter?

Mary Poppins! Another bit of info I never knew.

I loved all those actresses in the 40's and 50's who played wise cracking gals. Like Eve Arnold and the actress who played Ma Kettle? Sorry, her name escapes me ”

David, in 1952 Mary made her debut in I Love Lucy playing Madame Lamond, a ballet teacher. Then between 1963 and 1967 she made eight appearances in The Lucy Show, and from 1969 to 1974 she appeared in nine episodes of Here's Lucy.

I guess that you meant Eve Arden, Joan Crawford's wisecracking friend in Mildred Pierce, and Barbara's understanding friend in My Reputation, she was also terrific in Stage Door, and The Dark at the Top of the Stairs.

Ma Kettle was played by Marjorie Main, who in one of her first roles, played Barbara's mother in Stella Dallas, and was wonderful in The Women and Meet Me in St Louis.
DavidJ28
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“David, in 1952 Mary made her debut in I Love Lucy playing Madame Lamond, a ballet teacher. Then between 1963 and 1967 she made eight appearances in The Lucy Show, and from 1969 to 1974 she appeared in nine episodes of Here's Lucy.

I guess that you meant Eve Arden, Joan Crawford's wisecracking friend in Mildred Pierce, and Barbara's understanding friend in My Reputation, she was also terrific in Stage Door, and The Dark at the Top of the Stairs.

Ma Kettle was played by Marjorie Main, who in one of her first roles, played Barbara's mother in Stella Dallas, and was wonderful in The Women and Meet Me in St Louis.”

Thank you Walter and apologies, I should have double checked the names before posting, no excuse in this day and age.

I have never heard of My Reputation, I am off to read what that's about.
Walter Neff
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by DavidJ28:
“Thank you Walter and apologies, I should have double checked the names before posting, no excuse in this day and age.

I have never heard of My Reputation, I am off to read what that's about.”

David, My Reputation was the first film that I saw of Barbara's, 70 years ago this year.

Although I was just nine years old she totally fascinated me, and when I saw her in The Other Love the following year, I became a lifelong fan.

You can see the official trailer of My Reputation on YouTube, as well as several scenes, including one with Eve Arden. It is a beautiful film, definitely in my top three of all her films, she looks stunning in her Edith Head wardrobe, and it has one of the best musical scores from Max Steiner that I have ever heard.
Hildaonpluto
16-06-2016
Goodness me I hadn't expected Mary wickes to prompt so much interest and so many replies as I must confess shes barely ever been on my radar if at all! I do remember her with Bette Davis in Non Voyager now that Ive been back and looked it up!

On this day in June 16th in 1924 actress Faith Domergue was born.She died in 1999.

She starred in a 1954 tense murder mystery drama "This is my love" with a cast lead by Linda Darnell and rick Jason.

Another film she starred in was 1955 film "Vendetta" which was producded by Howard Hughes but had some behind the scenes drama as Howard sacked several of the directors including Preston Sturges (Barbara Stanwyck connection!) before he settled on his choice but even then he ended up doing a significant amount of the directing himself.

Independent golden era Hollywood horror film " Cult of the Cobra" was also a film added to Faiths bow were she co-starred with Richard Long and Jack Kelly.

Latterly she made a few british films including "Man in the shadow" or Violent Stranger as it was renamed for the US market.Zachary Scott was a co-star.
Walter Neff
16-06-2016
Hilda, there is a link between Faith Domerge and Barbara, Hugo Fregonese, her husband from 1947 to 1958 directed Blowing Wild.

Even with a great cast, including Gary Cooper, Anthony Quinn and Ruth Roman, and filmed on location in Mexico in 1953, it was nothing more than a cheap B picture, although it does seem to have become a camp classic.
CLL Dodge
17-06-2016
That's some cast for a B movie.
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