Is it worth watching? Was it all cleaned up for Blu-ray?

Both versions are carefully restored, picture and sound (1 reel of the Spanish version was taken from an old print as the negative was not available). The Spanish language film manages to be about half an hour longer despite being based on the same stage adaptation. Too long.

Lupita Tovar makes for a more spirited female lead than the rather wooden Helen Chandler (and has a more revealing costume). Lugosi's Dracula has become iconic - Carlos Villarías was trying too hard to copy Lugosi but just doesn't look the part.

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I agree with this guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFb7iybnj6c

Thank you for the info and the links, much appreciated

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2189449

We might be losing this thread indeed the movie forums and all DS forums as digital spy is being downsized and rumours that the forums aren't financially viable

I love this thread -loathe some of the other forums but love this golden era Hollywood thread and would hurt to lose it.

Let's hope the mods clarify soon.

Let us hope so Hilda, this thread is part of my daily routine and I would miss the postings of Walter, yourself and everyone else who contributes.

Just a reminder of the lady who started it all off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkcysQA7tno&t=14s

Thanks she was good in that clip.

Oh I hope my concerns are misplaced but I felt it right to let people know especially if they just cut back the forums but don't close them then it gives us a chance to enthusiastically mobilise to make the case for saving the movies forum.

It's a cosy friendly harmless thread -let's hope we stay X

That was great, one of the few films that I missed in the 1940's, Joan was just 20 years old in that.

For those of you who have never seen her in The Other Love, there are some nice scenes here with Barbara. .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ysQlwknCY

I watched The Other Love on Talking Pictures recently and thoroughly enjoyed it, apart from David Niven (which we discussed before). It was made in 1947, the year I was born.

So glad that you enjoyed The Other Love. If you liked Joan Lorring I have found a wonderful video on YouTube with photo's of her from her childhood up to her old age. Even when she was an old lady she still had that lovely smile.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7dvO-KBpY

That's a shame. Fingers crossed for this thread or we will all have to decamp to the Facebook page.

The Mods said there is no danger of this Forum closing, but if it ever did happen, join me on my Facebook page and I will set up a Classic Movie Forum there.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1109278632493201/

Hi yes I'm on the Barbara Stanwyck Facebook group page but I've not really interacted beyond liking photos.

Many Thanks Walter that sounds like a good back up plan.
Personally I feel the way the mods worded it saying no current plans makes me a little less certain about the forums future -no need for immediate worry anyway but perhaps I'm overthinking it cynically!

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/102-ye...inkId=31357715

One of the few actors to reach his centenary from this era.

There are plenty of photo's to like Hilda, my collection now totals 20.711, and I am adding to them every day.

That's good to know. You have some great photos on your Facebook page.

Keep checking Dan, I add to them several times a day. I have just found some great shots from The Thorn Birds.

Incidentally, if you go to my own profile page you can see my latest eleven minute Plank in the gym last week. If you turn up the sound, you can also hear my moans, groans, and curses. I must learn to do a quieter Plank just in case I am ever invited back on TV again.

You possess an absolute treasure trove Walter!

On November 21St in Hollywood history

One of MGMs top dancing stars Eleanor Powell was born in 1912.
She was said by many to be almost as good a dancer as Fred Astaire. She first made her name in musical dancing films in the 1930s debuting in 1935 in "At home abroad"
She starred in films alongside some of the big names from the era including James Stewart, Robert Taylor, Fred Astaire and Nelson Eddy. Other films include 1942s "Ship Ahoy"
She left MGM in 1943 after starring in some box office flops and returned in 1950 for her final film "The duchess of Idaho" alongside Esther Williams.
Glenn Ford was her husband for a few years.
She died in 1982 aged 69.

On this day in 1924 American actor Joseph Campanella was born and is still with us so turns 92 today!
Pretty much a small bit player not a household name by any stretch.

In 1964 he starred with Henry Fondas son Peter Fonda in a film called "The young lovers"
However in 1962 he briefly starred in a theatre production alongside golden era Hollywood legend's Olivia De Havilland and Henry Fonda called "A gift of time"

I'm surprised because I hadn't realised that Olivia ever did live theatre work!
He also starred in popular TV shows Gunsmoke and Big Valley.

On this day in 1981 a relatively unknown Hollywood actor Harry Von Zell died aged 75.

He starred in a number of Western films including "Dear Wife" with William Holden and Joan Caulfield and "Two flags West" with Joseph Cotten, Jeff Chandler and Linda Darnell.

Eleanor was my favourite of all Fred's partners, and so much better than Ginger Rogers, who I have never cared for. My all time favourite dance routine is Fed and Eleanor dancing to Begin the Beguine in Broadway Melody of 1940.

Apart from The Big Valley, Joseph Campanella also appeared with Barbara in the dreadful Dynasty spin off, The Colby's. He played her lover, and the less said about that, the better. It was a sad end to her great career, she should have retired after her tour de force performance in The Thorn Birds.

It's also my all time favourite dance routine. I know I've posted it before but here's just a reminder of how great she was.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWW6QeeVzDc

Thanks so much for that! and if anyone has not seen it, do yourself a favour and click on that link.

It has been said that Eleanor was the only one of his dancing partners, to intimidate Fred, she was just too damn good. We will probably never know the truth, but he chose never to work with her again.

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...-91-1.12662062

Jerry Schatz, sometimes Jerry Tucker has died aged 91.

He starred mainly in the famous "Our Gang comedy short films " including in the same films as Ginger Rogers and Shirley Temple.


In terms of Eleanor Powell Walter -what can you tell me about her please?

Was she considered a major star and why is she overlooked relatively speaking in terms of Hollywood history?

It could just be me but I Hollywood doesn't pay much homage to her compared to other stars of the era?

Was she controversial or disliked for any reason or just that the studio's were more invested in pushing other names?

PS I hadn't spotted the Campanella link to Barbara Stanwyck via The Colby's!
Any conceivable Barbara link to Jerry?

I must confess that I have never heard of Jerry Schatz, but the Our Gang comedies are even before my time.

Eleanor gave up her dancing career to devote her life to husband Glenn Ford, and son Peter. Ford turned out to be a serial womanizer, and was probably as sexually voracious as Warren Beatty in his time. She turned to religion and was ordained as a Minister of the Unity church. She later hosted an Emmy Award Sunday morning TV programme called, "Faith of Our Children" between 1953 and 1955.

Eleanor divorced Ford in 1959, and encouraged by her son Peter, launched a highly publicised nightclub career. During the early 1960's she made several appearances on popular TV programmes such as The Ed Sullivan Show and The Hollywood Palace. She made her final public appearance in 1981 at a televised American Film Institute Tribute to Fred Astaire, where she received a standing ovation. It is a fact that Eleanor was considered to be the only female dancer who could out dance Fred. In his autobiography, "Steps in Time" Fred stated, "She puts 'em down like a man, no ricky-ticky sissy stuff with Ellie. She really knocked out a tap dance in a class by herself!"

As I have mentioned before, their stunning dance to Cole Porter's "Begin the Beguine" is considered to be one of the all time greatest tap dance sequences in movie history.

When the first "That's Entertainment" film was released, Eleanor was rediscovered by younger movie audiences. I was 38 when I first saw it, had never seen her before, and was completely knocked out by her. She was one of the few performers to be in all four of those wonderful compilation films.

I am going to have to take another look at my boxed set of MGM films, "Classic Musicals from the Dream Factory". This features Eleanor in Born to Dance, Lady Be Good, Broadway Melody of 1936, and Broadway Melody of 1938. Also included in this marvellous box set are, Jane Powell in Nancy Goes to Rio, Two Weeks With Love, Deep in My Heart, and Hit the Deck, and Howard Keel and Ann Blyth in Kismet.

Eleanor died of cancer on February 11th 1982 and is interred in the Hollywood Forever cemetery in the Cathedral Mausoleum.

Thanks so much for all of this detail Walter about Eleanor Powell.

So was born to dance your favourite of hers?

In terms of "Our Gang" am I right in thinking that a number of actors who went through that became big golden era stars as adults and similarly for WAMPAS child actors or is that a different name for the same thing?

PS I assume there's no family connection between Eleanor Powell and Jane Powell?