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Best supporting actress nominee and Bette Davis co-star Joan Lorring dies aged 88
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Dan Fortesque
17-12-2016
Once this site updates I think we'll be able to post videos on this thread. I think they're also including an auto-save feature, so long posts won't be lost. Good news.
Walter Neff
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan Fortesque:
“Once this site updates I think we'll be able to post videos on this thread. I think they're also including an auto-save feature, so long posts won't be lost. Good news.”

I wish that we could post photo's, that would really brighten it up.
Walter Neff
17-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...907a222ea6.jpg

Thanks Walter I will be sure to check them out. YouTube indeed the internet is such a blessing for fans of anything from Hollywood's golden era or in some cases gaining new fans for the era amongst younger film lovers.

Would you say The bad and the beautiful was a camp film? It certainly sounds camp and also sizzles with sexual chemistry just in that picture of Kirk Douglas and Lana Turner!

Was there an enduring friendship between Kirk and Barbara Stanwyck given his first major role was with her?

PS Do you know who the actress is in the linked hot picture of Kirk Douglas please? ”

There are some scenes in The Bad and The Beautiful that would certainly be thought of as camp. I am thinking of the scene where Lana runs out of Kirk's mansion, jumps into her car, and crying hysterically while driving. You can watch the whole scene on YouTube.

In his autobiography, Kirk commented how on the great relationship that she had with the Crew on set of his first film, but he was put out that she didn't pay him any attention. Kirk has always been known for his ego, and probably thought that Barbara would be impressed with his talent, and he certainly made an impressive debut.

I guess that he forgave her, because 40 years later he presented her with the Golden Globe when she won the Cecil B de Mille Lifetime Achievement Award in 1986.

He made a lovely speech, adding how scared he was when he had to kiss her, "Because Barbara Stanwyck was a Star, she was a Star then, she's a Star now, and she'll be a Star for decades to come".

Well he was wrong there, because she died four years later, but it was nice sentiment.
Hildaonpluto
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“There are some scenes in The Bad and The Beautiful that would certainly be thought of as camp. I am thinking of the scene where Lana runs out of Kirk's mansion, jumps into her car, and crying hysterically while driving. You can watch the whole scene on YouTube.

In his autobiography, Kirk commented how on the great relationship that she had with the Crew on set of his first film, but he was put out that she didn't pay him any attention. Kirk has always been known for his ego, and probably thought that Barbara would be impressed with his talent, and he certainly made an impressive debut.

I guess that he forgave her, because 40 years later he presented her with the Golden Globe when she won the Cecil B de Mille Lifetime Achievement Award in 1986.

He made a lovely speech, adding how scared he was when he had to kiss her, "Because Barbara Stanwyck was a Star, she was a Star then, she's a Star now, and she'll be a Star for decades to come".

Well he was wrong there, because she died four years later, but it was nice sentiment. ”

Sounds like a wonderful sentiment and it must be a thrill or buzz for you that one of the last standing big stars of the era has such a concrete link careerwise to Barbara Stanwyck.

When you say she didn't pay attention to him do you mean he was trying to seduce her and bed her?
Hildaonpluto
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Dan Fortesque:
“Once this site updates I think we'll be able to post videos on this thread. I think they're also including an auto-save feature, so long posts won't be lost. Good news.”

That's great news and will be a real boon to this particular thread! 👍
Walter Neff
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Sounds like a wonderful sentiment and it must be a thrill or buzz for you that one of the last standing big stars of the era has such a concrete link careerwise to Barbara Stanwyck.

When you say she didn't pay attention to him do you mean he was trying to seduce her and bed her?”

No, but Kirk was a very handsome, virile guy of 30, and he was used to females falling at his feet. Barbara was a tough broad from Brooklyn who had already been in Hollywood for 17 years, and was at the very peak of her stardom. She wasn't going to fall at anyone's feet, especially as she was married to Robert Taylor, one of the most handsome stars in the business. She was very street wise, and probably realised that he expected her to be attracted to him, and she played it cool. She always respected and appreciated talent, and I am sure that she was delighted that Kirk was chosen to present her with the Golden Globe 40 years later. I did read that she as very touched by his speech, as well as his attentiveness to her.
lewiep93
18-12-2016
Sad news, Zsa Zsa Gabor has died at the marvellous age of 99. Very sad, was hoping she'd reach 100. She's finally at peace now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38360302
Hildaonpluto
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by lewiep93:
“Sad news, Zsa Zsa Gabor has died at the marvellous age of 99. Very sad, was hoping she'd reach 100. She's finally at peace now.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-38360302”

Very sad and the end of an era but I take comfort in the fact she's not suffering anymore as her quality of life was very poor.
Walter Neff
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“Very sad and the end of an era but I take comfort in the fact she's not suffering anymore as her quality of life was very poor.”

Very sad, but it was a blessed release, because she wasn't living, just existing.

I remember seeing her at The Night of 100 Stars at the London Palladium in 1964. Judy Garland had been the surprise guest, and had been persuaded to sing Over the Rainbow. Everyone who was anyone was on the stage, from Gloria Swanson to the Beatles. Zsa, Zsa walked from the wings to centre stage and handed Judy a single rose. It was a great bit of scene stealing, and done with real style, and she never missed an opportunity to be the centre of attention.

RIP Zsa, Zsa. .
CLL Dodge
19-12-2016
So not a hat-trick of Hollywood centenarians this year. RIP Zsa Zsa.
manderley
19-12-2016
One of Zsa Zsa's best quotes -

"I'm a good housekeeper, every time I leave a man I keep the house"
Hildaonpluto
20-12-2016
https://youtu.be/BuKf2SKd_vE

Nice little BBC Segment on Zsa Zsa Gabors passing incase anybody didn't see it on BBC news 24.


Goodness Walter Zsa Zsa upstaged Gloria Swanson!!! 😱

Was there literally any other Hollywood star gayer and more gloriously camp in every way than Zsa Zsa Gabor??!! 😁
Hildaonpluto
20-12-2016
https://twitter.com/ClassicalCinema/...11037538217984


Goodness it's exactly 70 years ago today that legendary golden era and timeless Christmas classic movie "It's a Wonderful Life" premiered!

It sure has stood the test of time!
Walter Neff
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“https://twitter.com/ClassicalCinema/...11037538217984


Goodness it's exactly 70 years ago today that legendary golden era and timeless Christmas classic movie "It's a Wonderful Life" premiered!

It sure has stood the test of time!”

Not for me, I have never been able to sit all the way through it. It was a flop when it was first released, and I can certainly see why. It started to get popular when it was shown regularly on American TV. It is a mystery to me why it is now considered a Classic.

This was when the director's films were often referred to by his detractors as "Capra Corn."
Hildaonpluto
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“Not for me, I have never been able to sit all the way through it. It was a flop when it was first released, and I can certainly see why. It started to get popular when it was shown regularly on American TV. It is a mystery to me why it is now considered a Classic.

This was when the director's films were often referred to by his detractors as "Capra Corn." ”

What do you dislike about it? Too corny or the fact it's overhyped reputation wise?

I quite like it, I don't love it but I'd always taken it as a given that it's classic status was unquestioned!! 😁
Walter Neff
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“What do you dislike about it? Too corny or the fact it's overhyped reputation wise?

I quite like it, I don't love it but I'd always taken it as a given that it's classic status was unquestioned!! 😁 ”

Both, corny and overhyped. I have been around long enough to be surprised that original flops are now treated like Classics.

Vertigo, coincidentally also starring James Stewart, was another box office flop, and is now being hailed as the greatest film ever made, which is totally crazy. Far from being great, it is nowhere near the best Hitchcock, what about The Lady Vanishes, Strangers on a Train, Dial M For Murder, Rope, North By Northwest, or even Frenzy.
CLL Dodge
20-12-2016
I must re-watch Vertigo soon, to see if I can discern what has gained it the honour of topping the Sight and Sound poll (it took top spot this year from longtime champ Citizen Kane).

The top 50:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time
Walter Neff
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“I must re-watch Vertigo soon, to see if I can discern what has gained it the honour of topping the Sight and Sound poll (it took top spot this year from longtime champ Citizen Kane).

The top 50:

http://www.bfi.org.uk/news/50-greatest-films-all-time”

Just looking at that list, I wonder just how many average lovers of Classic films would even have heard of half of them.
manderley
20-12-2016
I think Vertigo is an excellent film but I wouldn't rank at number 1.

The one I have an issue with is The Searchers, which I think is a good western but not a classic which seems to be the opinion of most "experts. I don't even think it is even John Wayne's best western as I prefer The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ( I know Walter, James Stewart is in it ) and She Wore A Yellow Ribbon.

I would also place Godfather 2 above Godfather 1.
manderley
20-12-2016
Incidentally Walter I trust that you will be watching the Jean Alexander tribute which starts in a few minutes.
Hildaonpluto
20-12-2016
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...oid-sonymobile

Starred with Humphrey Bogart in Passage to Marseille
Walter Neff
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by manderley:
“I think Vertigo is an excellent film but I wouldn't rank at number 1.

The one I have an issue with is The Searchers, which I think is a good western but not a classic which seems to be the opinion of most "experts. I don't even think it is even John Wayne's best western as I prefer The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance ( I know Walter, James Stewart is in it ) and She Wore A Yellow Ribbon.

I would also place Godfather 2 above Godfather 1.”

I think that it is such a pretentious list, how could anyone take it seriously when they leave out All About Eve, Double Indemnity, and Sunset Boulevard.

They also included 2001 Space Odyssey, the most mind numbingly boring film that it has ever been my misfortune to sit through.
Walter Neff
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Hildaonpluto:
“https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.w...oid-sonymobile

Starred with Humphrey Bogart in Passage to Marseille”

She was also in the British Classic, Fallen Idol.

This has been one of the worst years that I can remember for celebrity deaths.
Walter Neff
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by manderley:
“Incidentally Walter I trust that you will be watching the Jean Alexander tribute which starts in a few minutes. ”

I LOVED every minute of it, a fitting tribute to a great Soap Icon.

Annie's reaction to Hilda's "Muriel" was priceless, for me to two best Soap actresses EVER!

I enjoyed Sally and Kevin's memories too, but why they had to have the Cotton creature and Fizz I can't imagine, they were definitely surplus to requirements.
Hildaonpluto
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“She was also in the British Classic, Fallen Idol.

This has been one of the worst years that I can remember for celebrity deaths. ”

I fear next year will be even worse in this regard but I suppose I should try and keep it cheerful.

Kirk and Olivias milestone birthdays are a positive highlight amongst the sad news.
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