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Old 03-01-2017, 22:46
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Walter just thinking about you doing that Plank is exhausting me! The calender years are certainly not slowing you down! I'm amazed and hugely impressed! Congratulations

How many races or marathons are you planning this year?

Did Elsa remarry after Charles died?

Am I right in thinking that strictly speaking a typical Hollywood lavender marriage is when BOTH the male and female in the marriage are hiding their sexuality rather than where a gay actor marries a straight woman to cover his sexuality?

I do wonder if in years to come there will be any future evidence backed revelations about other Hollywood actors from the golden age who where bearding or in a lavender marriage who haven't been confirmed or even thought of or "suspected" in this regard?

Do you still go to the west end theatre? The only big UK star I've seen on the stage is Sheila Hancock playing the Bette Davis role in The Anniversary and she was excellent.

I think I've heard a rumour that Dustin Hoffman MIGHT be performing in the westend in the future which may tempt me....
Thanks Hilda.

I have been offline for the past 24 hours, my power cable conked out, but fortunately I managed to get a new one from a local guy. I am been like a desperate junkie waiting for my next fix since yesterday. I really am addicted to the internet as much as I am to the gym, but I guess that there are worse addictions .

My first run this year will be the Ashford 10K next month, followed by the Canterbury 10K in March, the London Marathon In April, and the Whitstable 10K the following week. and the Sittingbourne 10K in May, So far nothing in June, but there is the Herne Bay 10K in July, and the Mount Ephraim 10K in August.. In September we have our local Faversham 10K, and for the past 5 years I have been presented with the Veteran's trophy for the oldest runner. I wonder what I will get this year as the first 80 year old to have ever taken part.
I also hope to be running the Wingham 10K in September. In October we are back in Sittingbourne, but this time it is a 10 mile run. The Ashford 10K seems to be the last official run for this year. So that is 11 runs this year, so far anyway.

No, Elsa never married after Charles died, it is a scary thought that I am now old enough to be his father.

I never go to the theatre, the last show that I saw was "Acorn Antiques, the Musical" with Julie Walters, and that was fabulous.

I have always said that I would never go to the theatre again, but I may be tempted if Danny Mac does the musical of Sleepless in Seattle, he has a great voice, apart from all his other qualifications.

Did I tell you that I saw Sheila Hancock in the original role of the daughter in law in The Anniversary? Michael Crawford played the young son, and Mona Washbourne played the Mother from hell. She played it quite differently from Bette, far more subtle, which made her performance much more effective. Bette just camped it up, and sacked the first director because he wouldn't put up with her excesses. She sometimes could be her own worst enemy.

Apart from Rock Hudson marrying his agent's secretary, I really don't know anything about Hollywood's lavender marriages.
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Old 03-01-2017, 22:51
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Walter Walter Where are you to celebrate the thread hitting it's 150,000 milestone!!
I have only been away for 24 hours, you can see why if you read my last message.

Now you know how I feel when you are away for a week on that ghastly Eastenders thread. .
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:50
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Thanks Hilda.

I have been offline for the past 24 hours, my power cable conked out, but fortunately I managed to get a new one from a local guy. I am been like a desperate junkie waiting for my next fix since yesterday. I really am addicted to the internet as much as I am to the gym, but I guess that there are worse addictions .

My first run this year will be the Ashford 10K next month, followed by the Canterbury 10K in March, the London Marathon In April, and the Whitstable 10K the following week. and the Sittingbourne 10K in May, So far nothing in June, but there is the Herne Bay 10K in July, and the Mount Ephraim 10K in August.. In September we have our local Faversham 10K, and for the past 5 years I have been presented with the Veteran's trophy for the oldest runner. I wonder what I will get this year as the first 80 year old to have ever taken part.
I also hope to be running the Wingham 10K in September. In October we are back in Sittingbourne, but this time it is a 10 mile run. The Ashford 10K seems to be the last official run for this year. So that is 11 runs this year, so far anyway.

No, Elsa never married after Charles died, it is a scary thought that I am now old enough to be his father.

I never go to the theatre, the last show that I saw was "Acorn Antiques, the Musical" with Julie Walters, and that was fabulous.

I have always said that I would never go to the theatre again, but I may be tempted if Danny Mac does the musical of Sleepless in Seattle, he has a great voice, apart from all his other qualifications.

Did I tell you that I saw Sheila Hancock in the original role of the daughter in law in The Anniversary? Michael Crawford played the young son, and Mona Washbourne played the Mother from hell. She played it quite differently from Bette, far more subtle, which made her performance much more effective. Bette just camped it up, and sacked the first director because he wouldn't put up with her excesses. She sometimes could be her own worst enemy.

Apart from Rock Hudson marrying his agent's secretary, I really don't know anything about Hollywood's lavender marriages.
Goodness Walter surely then your the oldest or one of the oldest London Marathon runners to be taking part in your 80th year? Have you ever met any famous people who are also taking part when you've entered in recent years?
That's a mighty impressive list of events your taking part in this year. Best Wishes.

I must confess I've never heard of Mona Washbourne but she sounds like a very subtle performer. It'd be interesting for me to contrast the performances. I liked Bette in it but she was supercamp! I'd forgotten Sheila Hancock had played the role of the daughter in law on stage as well as in the film. I seem to recall that Sheila Hancock found Bette difficult offscreen as well as on and they weren't overfriendly but I could be getting mixed up? I seem to recall reading an interview about it in a regional paper whilst this play was touring. 2003/4 if memory serves me right?

Oh I don't blame you at all for making Danny Mac an exception to your rule He's definitely got movie star looks and could looks wise easily have been an onscreen movie heartthrob in the golden era!

I'm going to post a video in my next post from 1949 that I think you and other golden era Hollywood fans will like very much.
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Old 04-01-2017, 10:56
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https://youtu.be/L92-6mEwlzE

Great black and white film of MGM's 25th anniversary luncheon where stars as varied as Greer Garson, Judy Garland, Katherine Hepburn, Frank Sinatra and Esther Williams present themselves on stage in a rollcall before sitting down for the luncheon.

Would be hard for a similar event to occur today in the same way now that the studio system is gone and stars wouldn't be contractually obliged to attend as part of their work.

I enjoyed watching it, felt surreal but good and I think Angela Lansbury may be the only star from this luncheon event who is still with us.
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Old 04-01-2017, 11:43
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https://youtu.be/L92-6mEwlzE

Great black and white film of MGM's 25th anniversary luncheon where stars as varied as Greer Garson, Judy Garland, Katherine Hepburn, Frank Sinatra and Esther Williams present themselves on stage in a rollcall before sitting down for the luncheon.

Would be hard for a similar event to occur today in the same way now that the studio system is gone and stars wouldn't be contractually obliged to attend as part of their work.

I enjoyed watching it, felt surreal but good and I think Angela Lansbury may be the only star from this luncheon event who is still with us.
Thanks Hilda I enjoyed watching that and I think you may be right about Angela Lansbury.

Erroll Flynn seemed a bit confused about when he should make his entrance.
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Old 04-01-2017, 18:27
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Thanks Hilda I enjoyed watching that and I think you may be right about Angela Lansbury.

Erroll Flynn seemed a bit confused about when he should make his entrance.

Yes he did didn't he!

Did I hear right or did he call Betty Garrett sweetie?

Greer Garson was a little slow getting out on time to her name but the actual music they were playing was beautiful and very remiscient of old Hollywood. If I heard that music on the radio I'd think of this era in America -my brain would do it automatically because of the association in my mind.

Another observation -Clark Gable seems more starkly handsome when himself and not in a movie?
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Old 04-01-2017, 19:31
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Goodness Walter surely then your the oldest or one of the oldest London Marathon runners to be taking part in your 80th year? Have you ever met any famous people who are also taking part when you've entered in recent years?
That's a mighty impressive list of events your taking part in this year. Best Wishes.

I must confess I've never heard of Mona Washbourne but she sounds like a very subtle performer. It'd be interesting for me to contrast the performances. I liked Bette in it but she was supercamp! I'd forgotten Sheila Hancock had played the role of the daughter in law on stage as well as in the film. I seem to recall that Sheila Hancock found Bette difficult offscreen as well as on and they weren't overfriendly but I could be getting mixed up? I seem to recall reading an interview about it in a regional paper whilst this play was touring. 2003/4 if memory serves me right?

Oh I don't blame you at all for making Danny Mac an exception to your rule He's definitely got movie star looks and could looks wise easily have been an onscreen movie heartthrob in the golden era!

I'm going to post a video in my next post from 1949 that I think you and other golden era Hollywood fans will like very much.
Hilda, there are many people older than me that have taken part in the London Marathon, including a 90 year old Sikh man some years ago. I have never seen any celebrities there. Tony Audenshaw, who plays Bob Hope in Emmerdale has run 10 London Marathon's and in 2010 broke the Guinness World record by completing in the fastest time by a runner dressed as a baby, in 3 hours 13 minutes, which is an incredible achievement. My best friend Graham, who really got me into running long distances completed his 10th London Marathon last year in 3 hours 53 minutes which is also marvellous for a guy of 54. My best time is 6.53, and I will be more than happy if I can finish in under 6 hours, this year I hope to be running with Graham's 23 year old daughter who will be taking part for the first time.

I can understand why Sheila Hancock clashed with Bette, she saw her ruining what was a marvellous play, and turning it into "a Bette Davis vehicle."
When she made her entrance down the stairs in the opening scene, all of the supporting cast had to stand at the bottom of the stairs applauding her. Then she went back up the stairs for the first take.
Not surprising that back in 1932 when she had a small role in Barbara's So Big, and already showing signs of temperament, that Barbara called her "an egotistical little bitch!"

Mona Washbourne was a brilliant actress, if you Google her I am sure that you will recognise the face. She played Rex Harrison's housekeeper in My Fair Lady.

I think it was a dream sequence in Billy Liar, when as Billy's Mum, she uttered those immortal words, "Oh God, how dreary, Billy's pissed again!"

She is also in one of my all time favourite British films, Cast a Dark Shadow, in which she plays Dirk Bogarde's first wife. Margaret Lockwood gave the performance of her life as the common, blowsy ex barmaid, who becomes his second wife. She was a revelation delivering such dialogue like, "I was going to trundle up the aisle again until I found out it was the money bags they were after, and not the old bag herself.

You can get it from Amazon for under £10, the cover should be enough encouragement for you to order it.

I love the MGM Anniversary video, although George Murphy made a real cock up of introducing the stars, he never even mentioned Errol Flynn, who didn't seem to know when he was supposed to make his entrance. Odd that he was in modern dress, when his co stars, Greer Garson, Walter Pidgeon, and Janet Leigh seemed to have come straight from the set of their film, That Forsythe Woman.

Disappointed that Barbara and her then husband weren't there. Robert Taylor had the longest contract at MGM, 25 years, and he filmed The Bribe with Ave Gardner that year. Barbara wasn't an MGM star, but she did film, East Side, West Side with James Mason in 1949.

Even more irritating, at the end of that video they announced MGM's 30th Anniversary, which Barbara WAS at, and all we got was MGM's Jubilee orchestra.

Incidentally, Angela isn't the only surviving star, thankfully Arlene Dahl is still with us, as is Claude Jarman jr who was sitting next to Buster Keaton, he shot to fame as Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman's son in The Yearling, he looks marvellous at 82.
Then there is the curly haired little boy in the back row, that was my favourite child star Dean Stockwell, he will be 81 in March.
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I can just imagine Walter doing this when he reaches 105.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doqxW-Yr_PE
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I thought Flynn was a Warner Brothers contract star? Did he defect to MGM?
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I can just imagine Walter doing this when he reaches 105.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doqxW-Yr_PE
That is just what the boys in the gym said this morning, but I don't like bikes and haven't ridden one for 40 years, but I could still be running at that age.
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I thought Flynn was a Warner Brothers contract star? Did he defect to MGM?
No, Flynn signed a 15 year contract with Warner's in 1947, but he soon became disillusioned with the roles that they were giving him, and they became increasingly infuriated with his disruptive behaviour, which resulted in them cancelling his contract. Jack Warner was also anxious to have a clear our of the names who had been at the studio since the 1930's. He was signing promising young hopefuls like Doris Day, who by 1950 was Warner's Number 1 Box Office Star.

That Forsyte Woman with MGM came at just the right time, and he received extremely good reviews. He also got on surprisingly well with the very ladylike Greer Garson.
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https://twitter.com/DannyShookNews/s...08789681909761

Not sure if she was part of the Hollywood scene but Legendary Italian actress Gina I aged 89 has been rushed to hospital
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Hilda, there are many people older than me that have taken part in the London Marathon, including a 90 year old Sikh man some years ago. I have never seen any celebrities there. Tony Audenshaw, who plays Bob Hope in Emmerdale has run 10 London Marathon's and in 2010 broke the Guinness World record by completing in the fastest time by a runner dressed as a baby, in 3 hours 13 minutes, which is an incredible achievement. My best friend Graham, who really got me into running long distances completed his 10th London Marathon last year in 3 hours 53 minutes which is also marvellous for a guy of 54. My best time is 6.53, and I will be more than happy if I can finish in under 6 hours, this year I hope to be running with Graham's 23 year old daughter who will be taking part for the first time.

I can understand why Sheila Hancock clashed with Bette, she saw her ruining what was a marvellous play, and turning it into "a Bette Davis vehicle."
When she made her entrance down the stairs in the opening scene, all of the supporting cast had to stand at the bottom of the stairs applauding her. Then she went back up the stairs for the first take.
Not surprising that back in 1932 when she had a small role in Barbara's So Big, and already showing signs of temperament, that Barbara called her "an egotistical little bitch!"

Mona Washbourne was a brilliant actress, if you Google her I am sure that you will recognise the face. She played Rex Harrison's housekeeper in My Fair Lady.

I think it was a dream sequence in Billy Liar, when as Billy's Mum, she uttered those immortal words, "Oh God, how dreary, Billy's pissed again!"

She is also in one of my all time favourite British films, Cast a Dark Shadow, in which she plays Dirk Bogarde's first wife. Margaret Lockwood gave the performance of her life as the common, blowsy ex barmaid, who becomes his second wife. She was a revelation delivering such dialogue like, "I was going to trundle up the aisle again until I found out it was the money bags they were after, and not the old bag herself.

You can get it from Amazon for under £10, the cover should be enough encouragement for you to order it.

I love the MGM Anniversary video, although George Murphy made a real cock up of introducing the stars, he never even mentioned Errol Flynn, who didn't seem to know when he was supposed to make his entrance. Odd that he was in modern dress, when his co stars, Greer Garson, Walter Pidgeon, and Janet Leigh seemed to have come straight from the set of their film, That Forsythe Woman.

Disappointed that Barbara and her then husband weren't there. Robert Taylor had the longest contract at MGM, 25 years, and he filmed The Bribe with Ave Gardner that year. Barbara wasn't an MGM star, but she did film, East Side, West Side with James Mason in 1949.

Even more irritating, at the end of that video they announced MGM's 30th Anniversary, which Barbara WAS at, and all we got was MGM's Jubilee orchestra.

Incidentally, Angela isn't the only surviving star, thankfully Arlene Dahl is still with us, as is Claude Jarman jr who was sitting next to Buster Keaton, he shot to fame as Gregory Peck and Jane Wyman's son in The Yearling, he looks marvellous at 82.
Then there is the curly haired little boy in the back row, that was my favourite child star Dean Stockwell, he will be 81 in March.
I wonder if Sheila Hancock could have cracked Hollywood if she'd tried her luck? As far as I know she didn't go the Hollywood route?

I've always found her to be a brilliant actress in all that she does but also very strong willed!

Could anyone cause Bette Davis to feel humility?

Is Dean Stockwell the actor you have a crush on and was recently ill or was that someone different?

What I enjoyed about the roll-call MGM video was watching it in black and white. There's something about watching the old stuff in it's original colour of black and white that I really like.

Do you expect to still take part in the London Marathon at 90?
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapeze_(film)

Yup Gina Lollobrigida did work in Hollywood here a reference to the film Trapeze in which she starred alongside Tony Curtis and Burt Lancaster so she is relevant to this thread.

Hope she pulls through.
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