I lose browser tabs on ios on my ipad3, i get wait/report crash notifications in chrome on my Nexus 5.

To me there is now very little differences between the devices, Android Apps have caught up, IOS has added more features, the performance of the devices are similar.

Its all pretty much of a muchness.

Sometimes you can be seriously dim

I have already asked what this 'browser tab killing' claim is but never seem to get a straight answer.

Plenty of examples of it being cheaper if you look.

Customer support, plenty of horror stories for all manufacturers. I wonder how good customer support is though when no standard manufacturers 2 year warranty is offered like other manufacturers.

Thank you Al, that was a little uncalled for I think especially where an explanation of you mystery post would have been more helpful.

Cheap v expensive. Over priced v subsidised.

None of it matter. I choose a phone because it suits me to own it.

I chose one over the other because it does things that the other can't.

Simple really.

You havent had Safari just close right in front of your eyes? clearing down all tabs and you have to start over.

If not you're lucky - its been a weekly occurrence for me since ios7. and one of the main gripes about ios7 on the internet,.

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...t=945&tstart=0 100+ page thread on apple forums.

I definitely have, as I mentioned a few posts back. But I haven't had it happen once since updating to 7.1. It happened so often on 7.0.x that even now, I keep expecting Safari to crash. But it hasn't yet, and it's been a good few weeks (seven or eight, maybe?) since 7.1 was released.

I had Safari crash a couple of times on the first version of iOS 7, but not on the most recent 3 updates. That problem was fixed ages ago in my experience. It's never happened to me on the current version.

I didn't realise that's what AlanWarwick was referring to. That's a bug from months ago which was fixed.

Can you not just keep up with what is being discussed?

Poster makes out iPhones are more expensive than Android phones which is why they don't get upgraded much. I queried that as iPhones and Android top end phones are about the same costs.

You disagreed for some reason bringing in ability of the phone opposed to simple costs which is not what was being discussed.

Seems you are confused, i merely said to you that is not a similarity in price.

I never compared power of anything I compared generations of phones, that is where the real comparison is made. Comparing the price for newer gen phones is not accurate. However even the 5s, htc m8, z2 are cheaper than the older 5s

You don't need to compare generations of phones as it has nothing to do with that. You take the latest iPhone and the latest Android phone and compare prices. They are quite similar.

Firstly as already as already stated they are not.

However if you consider comparing a 2 month old new generation phone with a near on 12 month old last generation phone a fair comparison shows how silly you can be. If you really want to make a point you may as well claim the iphone 4 is cheaper than the 5s

I've always been a fan of Android but I think they should have stopped tinkering when they got to ICS which in my opinion is still the best version. I've not yet been forced to move to Kit Crap. I'm dreading it now with all the restrictions on external media.

I can't help but think they are just updating for update sake now. Most updates since 4.0.3. seem to have added gimmicks which are purely cosmetic and not really added to the functionality of the OS yet with each upgrade they have taken away more of the flexibility with regards to how the file system operates. I also prefer the ICS setting menu where everything was all in one linear menu rather than splitting it up into categories so now I never seem to know where to find specific settings.

I still have a Galaxy S2 running ICS and after updating to JB I soon flashed it back as I hated all the so called improvements most of which seemed more like a downgrade than an upgrade. I noticed on the more recent handsets like the S4, they have taken away Mass Storage facility. Why? Surely this is a step backwards. My laptop doesn't support dragging and dropping to Portable Media Devices as even though the device and it's folders show up in Windows, the folders appear blank. This means if I want to transfer content to and from my PC from my Galaxy Tab3 or my wife's S4 I have to remove the SD card. If I need to copy stuff off the internal storage I either have to copy it to the SD card first then remove the card so it can be read in my PC or connect to my device using a wireless client over my wifi network which is slow and has limitations.

I think it's more a backlash of some Android users' own doing.

I think it began around the time of the S3 which turned out to be a very real contender against the iPhone, many even considered it to be better. In what (to me) seemed a bit 'tit for tat' many Android owners then started slating iOS in the way a lot of Apple fans had been doing towards them since the iPhone came out. Not that they didn't have good reason, many people genuinely preferred Android.

But over the past year or so although the S4, S5 and some other top-end Android phones have been successful it feels as if that 'wave' of enthusiasm has waned a little meaning some Apple fans are having a resurgence.

I'm not saying I think either side is justified (I do think it's a bit childish and petty), I've had the 4s, currently own the 5 and at one time had the S3. I openly admit I'm an iPhone fan but not to the point that I'm blind enough to consider it 'perfect'. I have ADHD and I just find the way iOS works and how its features integrate with each other helps with my condition much better than Android but each to their own, I'm sure there are thousands/millions out there who feel the opposite.

As such if I was given a choice or price was no object I'll choose iOS over Android and will stay that way unless something massive changes in how the latter works and is laid out. My mind remains open...

The point of the thread wasn't a backlash agaist Android. It was why do "normal" phone users make comments like "why did you get that HTC One, you could have got an iPhone for the same money". Of course you could just as easily substitute Galaxy S5 for iPhone because, as I have ststed earlier in this thread, most people do not know what they are talking about.

A new iPhone 5S from Apple is £549. A new Galaxy S5 from Samsung is £569 or £490 from Amazon. How exactly are they not both around the same price?

Who looks silly now?

Because a lot of people have the mind set that what they own is the best and so think that someone else should have what they think is the best.

So in your world something that costs nearly 15% less is "around the same price" absolutely ludicrous. Not to mention the newer generation samsung is cheaper than last years older iphone which you conviniently claim is not relevant, again laughable in the extreme. The ability to buy a more technologically more advanced handset for £60 less is "about the same"

By the way http://www.clove.co.uk/samsung-galaxy-s5 £460.00 here

It beggars belief what you actually think a difference in price is, what nonsense

They improved it a bit more since.
IOS tabs are more often not really open so that when you return to a tab, you have to reload the whole page c/w ensuing problems relative to what you are doing.

It may to be down to the fact that IOS was simply not a multi-tasking system at inception, and is now getting round that using memory bodge tactics. Remember, apps are priority and the web still hinders Apple in its monopolization of profits, quite the opposite of Google Android.

There is little technical appreciation of IOS, the marketing makes it all a perception. That continual 'but give me evidence manta' from Kidspud, sadly is part of that perception marketing/FUD .

Android is not perfect, but at least there is a choice of web engine to get what you want.

Or of course buyers remorse and seeking affirmation that they've done the "right thing"

Which applies to any phone of any flavour. Perhaps that is where fashion comes into it as it appears "uncool" to have chosed the "wrong" phone.

Of course there is the argumenet that you buy the phone that does what you want.

There is always the safe affirmation of having bought 'also' the most expensive phone.

It is going to be interesting to see how the iPhone evolves as music/movie services and iAds start to dominate their income stream.
Logically there should be some future tipping point where Apple ends up competing on price. The 5c more than hints at it fr the future, but obviously price competition is seen as not needed.

iAds is weird. You are forced to pay Apple as an intermediary to run 3D web adverts, whereas with Android they just run. How things evolve there will be interesting too.

OK I'll bite.

Why do you think i'm is better than kk when it clearly isn't

ICS while an improvement on GB is a stuttery, dated mess compared with kk. Kitkat runs better on lower hardware, another, is more secure, better looking, has more features and is just better in every demonstrable way.

I bet you wish we were still using windows 3.11?

Same with Starbucks vs Costa vs Nero's. I always see people with Starbucks coffee cups on the street, very rarely do I see the other brands. People see Starbucks as being 'in the crowd' same as the iphone.

Maybe not for much longer.