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Old 05-06-2014, 12:53
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I believe that Roy will clear Peters name , the other night Roy told Carla that he seen Peter going in and out of Tina's flat , she was not found until later

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Old 05-06-2014, 13:01
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Yes, I thought that too when he said it. Carla didn't seem to react though?

Have the police spoken to Roy yet?
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:04
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Yes, I thought that too when he said it. Carla didn't seem to react though?

Have the police spoken to Roy yet?
I though Roy had already spoken to the police.
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:07
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It doesn't matter what time she was found, he had a scratch on his face from an altercation with Tina, Roy saw him arrive and leave but he wasn't watching what happened next. He didn't see Rob go in, he didn't see Rob leave, there isn't a time of death like there would have been if she had died on the street, he can't be cleared on the time he was there as all the police know is that she was injured before Carla arrived.
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:19
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It doesn't matter what time she was found, he had a scratch on his face from an altercation with Tina, Roy saw him arrive and leave but he wasn't watching what happened next. He didn't see Rob go in, he didn't see Rob leave, there isn't a time of death like there would have been if she had died on the street, he can't be cleared on the time he was there as all the police know is that she was injured before Carla arrived.
True. So you mean the police might think that yes Peter went into Tina's, left again, but then returned at some point, pushed her off the balcony and then ran down and battered her just to make sure.
He then went back to the pub to (pointlessly) confess his infidelity to Carla?

Seems highly unlikely but then this is Weatherfield's Finest we're talking about.
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:21
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As above, & even if she had died instantly they wouldnt have been able to give a time of death exact enough to rule Peter out.
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:23
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It doesn't matter what time she was found, he had a scratch on his face from an altercation with Tina, Roy saw him arrive and leave but he wasn't watching what happened next. He didn't see Rob go in, he didn't see Rob leave, there isn't a time of death like there would have been if she had died on the street, he can't be cleared on the time he was there as all the police know is that she was injured before Carla arrived.
The first thing a coroner is supposed to do is identify time of death. So yes the police should now it and that would automatically clear peter as he was in the pub and didn't have enough time to get to to Tina to kill her.
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:28
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The first thing a coroner is supposed to do is identify time of death. So yes the police should now it and that would automatically clear peter as he was in the pub and didn't have enough time to get to to Tina to kill her.
Unless i am missing the point though, she died in hospital so that would be her "time of death" not when she was attacked as she did not die when she was attacked it is obvious Peter didn't hit her at the time she died, she was in a hospital room with Rita and David when the machine went off and the drs were with her at her time of death
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Old 05-06-2014, 13:29
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The first thing a coroner is supposed to do is identify time of death. So yes the police should now it and that would automatically clear peter as he was in the pub and didn't have enough time to get to to Tina to kill her.
But she died in the hospital, so the t.o.d. isn't in doubt. It's the time of the crack on the head that's the issue and that can't be proved by anyone since she was still alive after it.
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Old 05-06-2014, 14:51
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Unless i am missing the point though, she died in hospital so that would be her "time of death" not when she was attacked as she did not die when she was attacked it is obvious Peter didn't hit her at the time she died, she was in a hospital room with Rita and David when the machine went off and the drs were with her at her time of death
I'm with you on that^.
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Old 05-06-2014, 14:54
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Old 05-06-2014, 15:08
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Unless i am missing the point though, she died in hospital so that would be her "time of death" not when she was attacked as she did not die when she was attacked it is obvious Peter didn't hit her at the time she died, she was in a hospital room with Rita and David when the machine went off and the drs were with her at her time of death
Exactly. I think they work out time of death from things like body temperature, the way wounds have congealed, closed up, rigor mortis setting in. None of those things would have happened as she wasn't dead when she was found so ascertaining an exact time of attack (rather than death) will be more difficult. Plus they have a fairly narrow of window of time anyway. Dozens of people saw her in the pub at 9.30 (we know that's when the taxu was booked), the Poub was still open when Carla barged through shouting the odds before going to the flat so can't have been after 11pm (unless they had a late license which is unlikely) so she has to be have been attacked within that 90 minute period. I doubt any coroner would be able to narrow it down more than that.

Peter's greatest defence is that his motive for killing her was to shut her up, why would he tell Carla afterwards if he knew Tina wasn't going to. But, that could be a double bluff. He didn't intend to kill her, an argument got out of hand, once he realised what he'd done he thought the best way of clearing himself was to seemingly destroy his motive.
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Old 05-06-2014, 16:03
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True. So you mean the police might think that yes Peter went into Tina's, left again, but then returned at some point, pushed her off the balcony and then ran down and battered her just to make sure.
He then went back to the pub to (pointlessly) confess his infidelity to Carla?

Seems highly unlikely but then this is Weatherfield's Finest we're talking about.
Currnetly they seem to think Carla did it even though they know the lethal blow was made when Tina was lying outside. So they think Carla left the pub threatening to murder Tina and manged to get into her flat and somehow man handle her out of the back door and on to the balcony and push her off. Then run down the stairs and batter her then run back up the stairs and stand on the balcony until someone saw them And do all of this in what a couple of minutes

Those police make up for in imagination what they lack in any other skills.
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Old 05-06-2014, 16:08
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But she died in the hospital, so the t.o.d. isn't in doubt. It's the time of the crack on the head that's the issue and that can't be proved by anyone since she was still alive after it.
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Old 05-06-2014, 16:47
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Roy wants to keep his nose out of it....... I'll never forgive him if his evidence put's Peter in Jail......Roy is quickly losing a fan....
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Old 05-06-2014, 19:00
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Roy wants to keep his nose out of it....... I'll never forgive him if his evidence put's Peter in Jail......
Because he's told the truth to the investigators? He's not lying, so he's doing the right thing. What a horrid thing for him to do.

Roy is quickly losing a fan....
I'm sure the fictional character will be gutted...
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