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Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“http://www.techradar.com/news/video/...closer-1180129
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17...xt-gen-blu-ray”
“http://www.techradar.com/news/video/...closer-1180129
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/17...xt-gen-blu-ray”
I suppose we could find articles all day long...
http://www.techradar.com/news/video/...-water-1246497
http://www.techradar.com/news/televi...e-dirt-1247111
But, at the end of day only time will tell.
Originally Posted by call100:
“It would only be of interest if you hold the view that physical media will continue under the onslaught of streamed media. There may not be enough profit in discs to make the development worthwhile in the future. Sony are already being shady about the future development of BluRay.”
“It would only be of interest if you hold the view that physical media will continue under the onslaught of streamed media. There may not be enough profit in discs to make the development worthwhile in the future. Sony are already being shady about the future development of BluRay.”
Physical media does seem pointless now days along with the concept of owning your own copy of a film.
Does anyone else other than Samsung make them, or is anyone else planning to? - seems a crazy idea, like the failed Philips extra-wide screen idea 
After decades of owning a CRT TV with a bulging screen having one of these would seem odd. Last time I went to the cinema the screen was flat, IMAX probably has a curve. 
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“Does anyone else other than Samsung make them, or is anyone else planning to? - seems a crazy idea, like the failed Philips extra-wide screen idea”
“Does anyone else other than Samsung make them, or is anyone else planning to? - seems a crazy idea, like the failed Philips extra-wide screen idea
”
LG do curved but only in OLED, they did show of their 105" curved LCD at the CES this year, they'll probably filter through later in the year.
Phillips 21.9 idea can't have been that crazy as other manufacturers have showcased their 21.9 screens at CES this year, these could also filter though onto the high st later this year.
Why do you think its a crazy idea? I have a CIH setup on my projector, scope movies should give you extra width, not get squashed in a 16x9 frame. All my formats have the same height, only the width moves from ratio to ratio, 2.35:1 should have more impact than 1.85:1, with these 21.9 screens that's possible, so long as the masking is done correctly. Not a crazy idea but pointless buying one if you only watch soaps and reality TV.
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“LG do curved but only in OLED, they did show of their 105" curved LCD at the CES this year, they'll probably filter through later in the year.
Phillips 21.9 idea can't have been that crazy as other manufacturers have showcased their 21.9 screens at CES this year, these could also filter though onto the high st later this year.
Why do you think its a crazy idea? I have a CIH setup on my projector, scope movies should give you extra width, not get squashed in a 16x9 frame. All my formats have the same height, only the width moves from ratio to ratio, 2.35:1 should have more impact than 1.85:1, with these 21.9 screens that's possible, so long as the masking is done correctly. Not a crazy idea but pointless buying one if you only watch soaps and reality TV.”
“LG do curved but only in OLED, they did show of their 105" curved LCD at the CES this year, they'll probably filter through later in the year.
Phillips 21.9 idea can't have been that crazy as other manufacturers have showcased their 21.9 screens at CES this year, these could also filter though onto the high st later this year.
Why do you think its a crazy idea? I have a CIH setup on my projector, scope movies should give you extra width, not get squashed in a 16x9 frame. All my formats have the same height, only the width moves from ratio to ratio, 2.35:1 should have more impact than 1.85:1, with these 21.9 screens that's possible, so long as the masking is done correctly. Not a crazy idea but pointless buying one if you only watch soaps and reality TV.”
The only point I can see is the ability to see what is at the side above or below you, impossible in a domestic environment.
If any one has been to Futoroscope in France, they have a system where your seat is on a glass floor. The image extends 180 left to right and 180 up and down. The effect is frankly amazing.
Other amazing immersion effects are the dual moving seat shows, non of these are really practical in a domestic environment.
http://en.futuroscope.com/
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“The only point I can see is the ability to see what is at the side above or below you, impossible in a domestic environment.
If any one has been to Futoroscope in France, they have a system where your seat is on a glass floor. The image extends 180 left to right and 180 up and down. The effect is frankly amazing.
Other amazing immersion effects are the dual moving seat shows, non of these are really practical in a domestic environment.
http://en.futuroscope.com/”
“The only point I can see is the ability to see what is at the side above or below you, impossible in a domestic environment.
If any one has been to Futoroscope in France, they have a system where your seat is on a glass floor. The image extends 180 left to right and 180 up and down. The effect is frankly amazing.
Other amazing immersion effects are the dual moving seat shows, non of these are really practical in a domestic environment.
http://en.futuroscope.com/”
I've seen 150" curved with native 4k, amazing because you could get that much closer it filled your peripheral vision more than a flat screen equivelent. The concept is good, but only for specialist installs, it doesn't work well/at all for TV.
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“I've seen 150" curved with native 4k, amazing because you could get that much closer it filled your peripheral vision more than a flat screen equivelent. The concept is good, but only for specialist installs, it doesn't work well/at all for TV.”
“I've seen 150" curved with native 4k, amazing because you could get that much closer it filled your peripheral vision more than a flat screen equivelent. The concept is good, but only for specialist installs, it doesn't work well/at all for TV.”
Sounds similar to the Futuroscope experience. Anyone remotely interested in how convincing (and amusing), this can be, if you are down that way, pay a visit.
Shame there is no equivalent in the UK.
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Sounds similar to the Futuroscope experience. Anyone remotely interested in how convincing (and amusing), this can be, if you are down that way, pay a visit.
Shame there is no equivalent in the UK.”
“Sounds similar to the Futuroscope experience. Anyone remotely interested in how convincing (and amusing), this can be, if you are down that way, pay a visit.
Shame there is no equivalent in the UK.”
I don't know if it's still there or not?, but there used to be Cine2000 at Alton Towers, where they projected on one complete half of a large dome you stood inside - that was pretty amazing. There was also Cine360 where they projected on the entire dome, and you had to lie down - that wasn't anywhere near as good.
But it's all very 'gimmicky' anyway
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“Phillips 21.9 idea can't have been that crazy as other manufacturers have showcased their 21.9 screens at CES this year, these could also filter though onto the high st later this year.
Why do you think its a crazy idea? I have a CIH setup on my projector, scope movies should give you extra width, not get squashed in a 16x9 frame. All my formats have the same height, only the width moves from ratio to ratio, 2.35:1 should have more impact than 1.85:1, with these 21.9 screens that's possible, so long as the masking is done correctly. Not a crazy idea but pointless buying one if you only watch soaps and reality TV.”
“Phillips 21.9 idea can't have been that crazy as other manufacturers have showcased their 21.9 screens at CES this year, these could also filter though onto the high st later this year.
Why do you think its a crazy idea? I have a CIH setup on my projector, scope movies should give you extra width, not get squashed in a 16x9 frame. All my formats have the same height, only the width moves from ratio to ratio, 2.35:1 should have more impact than 1.85:1, with these 21.9 screens that's possible, so long as the masking is done correctly. Not a crazy idea but pointless buying one if you only watch soaps and reality TV.”
Yes I agree, 21:9 makes sense for some people especially those who watch a lot of movies. The main attraction is as you mention the constant height whatever the aspect ratio.
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“I don't know if it's still there or not?, but there used to be Cine2000 at Alton Towers, where they projected on one complete half of a large dome you stood inside - that was pretty amazing. There was also Cine360 where they projected on the entire dome, and you had to lie down - that wasn't anywhere near as good.
But it's all very 'gimmicky' anyway”
“I don't know if it's still there or not?, but there used to be Cine2000 at Alton Towers, where they projected on one complete half of a large dome you stood inside - that was pretty amazing. There was also Cine360 where they projected on the entire dome, and you had to lie down - that wasn't anywhere near as good.
But it's all very 'gimmicky' anyway
”
Saw the same thing in the 1990's at Disney in California. There's no comparison. If you haven't been suggest you do so before making pointless comparisons.
http://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/Attract...Charentes.html
Originally Posted by stvn758:
“After decades of owning a CRT TV with a bulging screen having one of these would seem odd. Last time I went to the cinema the screen was flat, IMAX probably has a curve.”
“After decades of owning a CRT TV with a bulging screen having one of these would seem odd. Last time I went to the cinema the screen was flat, IMAX probably has a curve.
”
Cinerama in the 60's was watched on curved screens.
Originally Posted by bobcar:
“Yes I agree, 21:9 makes sense for some people especially those who watch a lot of movies. The main attraction is as you mention the constant height whatever the aspect ratio.”
“Yes I agree, 21:9 makes sense for some people especially those who watch a lot of movies. The main attraction is as you mention the constant height whatever the aspect ratio.”
Definitely the better ratio for movie goers - scope movies get the screen area they deserve.
I would have preferred this ratio screen for TV than the 16x9 standard we've ended up with, I know many would disagree.
Seen a Curved 4K TV in Currys Leeds.
The screen was impressive but the curve formed bent lines and geometry- Especially when viewed slightly off angle. Also reflections were stretched and any movement in the room was distracting.
4k was impressive - Views 2ft away it was still very detailed, but the demos were very static. Being a crap LCD technology still, the 4K will we waisted once everything starts to pan and motion resolution will be lost.
a gimmick after the 3D gimmick
The screen was impressive but the curve formed bent lines and geometry- Especially when viewed slightly off angle. Also reflections were stretched and any movement in the room was distracting.
4k was impressive - Views 2ft away it was still very detailed, but the demos were very static. Being a crap LCD technology still, the 4K will we waisted once everything starts to pan and motion resolution will be lost.
a gimmick after the 3D gimmick
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“I don't know if it's still there or not?, but there used to be Cine2000 at Alton Towers, where they projected on one complete half of a large dome you stood inside - that was pretty amazing. There was also Cine360 where they projected on the entire dome, and you had to lie down - that wasn't anywhere near as good.
But it's all very 'gimmicky' anyway”
“I don't know if it's still there or not?, but there used to be Cine2000 at Alton Towers, where they projected on one complete half of a large dome you stood inside - that was pretty amazing. There was also Cine360 where they projected on the entire dome, and you had to lie down - that wasn't anywhere near as good.
But it's all very 'gimmicky' anyway
”
Yes! I was in that, and another like it elsewhere. With that degree of curvature it creates a very convincing illusion of depth - things that appear to cross your field of view are in fact increasing in scale and receding into the dome as they traverse the center - but your brain tells you they are crossing the plane of the bisected sphere! There was one amazing bit where the footage was inside a circus tent, with a trapeze group performing directly above you - as they swung past the center of the dome overhead it was absolutely convincing that they had depth.
Curvature like that would be great for a gaming setup, where you are centrally positioned - indeed, there are several arcade machines like this and some domed projection screens with corrective mirrors/lenses available commercially, but this slight curvature on a family set is probably going to be the punchline to a joke in a few years.
Originally Posted by call100:
“Cinerama in the 60's was watched on curved screens.”
“Cinerama in the 60's was watched on curved screens.”
Yes it was, but with a huge screen like that the entire audience is 'inside the curve'. With a TV of any 'normal size you've got viewers dotted all over the place, and the ones out towards the edges will get a very distorted/obscured view.
Originally Posted by Andy2:
“Yes it was, but with a huge screen like that the entire audience is 'inside the curve'. With a TV of any 'normal size you've got viewers dotted all over the place, and the ones out towards the edges will get a very distorted/obscured view.”
“Yes it was, but with a huge screen like that the entire audience is 'inside the curve'. With a TV of any 'normal size you've got viewers dotted all over the place, and the ones out towards the edges will get a very distorted/obscured view.”
I understand your point, but, I don't have viewers dotted all over my lounge....
Originally Posted by call100:
“I understand your point, but, I don't have viewers dotted all over my lounge....”
“I understand your point, but, I don't have viewers dotted all over my lounge....
”
But you may have viewers well off the centre-line. A concave screen will make their viewing worse than a flat one.
Originally Posted by Andy2:
“But you may have viewers well off the centre-line. A concave screen will make their viewing worse than a flat one.”
“But you may have viewers well off the centre-line. A concave screen will make their viewing worse than a flat one.”
As I said, I get your point, but, once again no more than two would be watching it at any time here. So, no chance of anyone being well of centre line.
I think, that when looking to buy a TV, you should have a good look at what your viewing habits are. Agreed, if you have many viewers scattered around a room, then the curved TV is probably not desirable. Anyone buying it for that scenario deserves all they get in unwatchability.
I don't have one by the way, but, I wouldn't rule one out when I do replace existing set.
Originally Posted by call100:
“Cinerama in the 60's was watched on curved screens.”
“Cinerama in the 60's was watched on curved screens.”
Also CinemaScope and, I think, Todd-AO too.
As I child I remember thinking how odd CinemaScope movies looked on TV where the screen was more or less flat but everyone still looked like Charlton Heston.
Originally Posted by Mustabuster:
“Didn't somebody here suggest that the OLED screen manufacturing had better yields if they were curved so this new marketing gimmick was to cover this?”
“Didn't somebody here suggest that the OLED screen manufacturing had better yields if they were curved so this new marketing gimmick was to cover this?”
No - OLED screens can be made into any shape you choose as they are flexible. Samsung have done this partly as a technical demo and partly to confuse the customer as LG have pretty much got the OLED business tied up at this moment in time and Samsung have met serious technical/yield issues on that front.
When OLED does take off over the next 18 months Samsung will have these curved LED screens on the shopfloors as a cheap alternative to the curved OLED's.
When I was in the Far East earlier in the year, they were talking about OLED tv's that would roll up like projector screens. I'm thinking that it could be a really popular innovation.
Solves the problem of arranging the furniture around the TV...
Solves the problem of arranging the furniture around the TV...
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