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Curved screens?
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crofter
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by call100:
“When I was in the Far East earlier in the year, they were talking about OLED tv's that would roll up like projector screens. I'm thinking that it could be a really popular innovation.
Solves the problem of arranging the furniture around the TV...”

Yes anything is possible with OLED but you will still need a breakout box to house all the tuners and connections. The other option is to have OLED's that retract into the base of the tv stand and that houses all the tuners, speakers etc.

LG are set to launch an OLED TV that can be either flat or automatically shifted to curved in the coming months.
call100
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by crofter:
“Yes anything is possible with OLED but you will still need a breakout box to house all the tuners and connections. The other option is to have OLED's that retract into the base of the tv stand and that houses all the tuners, speakers etc.

LG are set to launch an OLED TV that can be either flat or automatically shifted to curved in the coming months.”

The concepts I saw had as you suggest, but retracted upwards as per a projector screen.
They were apparently looking at ways to get that as thin as possible so it wouldn't be too noticeable. There was a nice idea, where the screen just came from a small covered slit in the ceiling, with all the tuners etc out of sight completely.
As you say the possibilities are endless once they crack the cost..
AidanLunn
05-07-2014
I have a curved TV.

It's a vintage Sobell CRT set from 1959
shoestring25
05-11-2014
just because they can curve a tv doesnt mean they should. they spend all this time and money making them thin and then curve them so they then stick out to far when you want to wall mount them. hopefully its a fad and they stop making them
White-Knight
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by shoestring25:
“just because they can curve a tv doesnt mean they should. they spend all this time and money making them thin and then curve them so they then stick out to far when you want to wall mount them. hopefully its a fad and they stop making them ”

You must have a very small room then because a 65" tv curves out by about 2 inches at the most at the very edge of the screen. It really is minimal and on a panel only a cm or so thick to start with, is probably less than your current flat screen's width overall.

Also, the curve DOES add something to the picture / viewing experience. I've viewed them in person.
Nigel Goodwin
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by White-Knight:
“Also, the curve DOES add something to the picture / viewing experience. I've viewed them in person.”

Emperors new clothes!
carnivalist
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by White-Knight:
“You must have a very small room then because a 65" tv curves out by about 2 inches at the most at the very edge of the screen. It really is minimal and on a panel only a cm or so thick to start with, is probably less than your current flat screen's width overall.

Also, the curve DOES add something to the picture / viewing experience. I've viewed them in person.”

Well it certainly CHANGES the picture/viewing experience to new and different one. I suspect "new and different" is immediately equated to "better" in the minds of certain susceptible individuals. However to my mind its a stupid marketing gimmick, which has obvious drawbacks in terms of practicality.
White-Knight
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by carnivalist:
“Well it certainly CHANGES the picture/viewing experience to new and different one. I suspect "new and different" is immediately equated to "better" in the minds of certain susceptible individuals. However to my mind its a stupid marketing gimmick, which has obvious drawbacks in terms of practicality.”

Well that's what I thought until I saw it, and now I am convinced by the benefits.

I've seen them on 3 or 4 occasions now next to similar sized flat screens.

Said it elsewhere, I wouldn't pay extra for it. However, given the choice of flat or curved for the same price, curved everytime as it SLIGHTLY improves the immersive experience.
Chparmar
07-11-2014
I keep thinking about the Odeon at Leicester Square - the largest cinema in the UK and my favorite.

I do think you see the whole screen area more easily.
chenks
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“I keep thinking about the Odeon at Leicester Square - the largest cinema in the UK and my favorite.

I do think you see the whole screen area more easily.”

what does that have to do with anything in this topic?
Deacon1972
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“what does that have to do with anything in this topic?”

The screen is curved.....
Blackjack Davy
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by AidanLunn:
“I have a curved TV.

It's a vintage Sobell CRT set from 1959 ”

I'm sure my gran has an old telly from the '70's with a lovely curved screen in the attic somewhere, I should fish it out should make a fortune what with the "retro" styling!

Grew up with curved screens woudn't want to go back.
Chparmar
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“The screen is curved.....”

yeah, the screen at the Odeon - Leicester Square is curved.

I think it's good if you are sitting right in the centre, as the the side area is 'pulled' in towards you. I don't think it would be good for video games though, as you may have to roll your eyes to see HOD information text.

But for grand landscape viewing or big blockbusters it's good.
chenks
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by Chparmar:
“yeah, the screen at the Odeon - Leicester Square is curved.”

the size is not even comparable to a consumer home TV though
Deacon1972
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“the size is not even comparable to a consumer home TV though”

But you can get a similar field of view with consumer TV's providing you sit at the recommended SMPTE viewing distance.
chenks
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“But you can get a similar field of view with consumer TV's providing you sit at the recommended SMPTE viewing distance.”

if we are comparing it to the odeon screen then you'd need to be sitting inches away from a consumer TV to even come close to a similar field of view.
Deacon1972
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“if we are comparing it to the odeon screen then you'd need to be sitting inches away from a consumer TV to even come close to a similar field of view.”

So long as you use the same screen size/seating distance formula for both screens the field of vision will be the same, you don't have to sit closer to the smaller screen to get the same affect as the larger screen, for example....

Sitting 50" away from a 50" TV would give the same field of vision as sitting 30' away from a 30' cinema screen.
chenks
07-11-2014
OK so lets do the maths then, see how it compares
how big is the Odeon screen and what is the optimal sitting distance for that.
then lets compare it to the average size of a consumer home curved TV and how far (or close) you would need to be sitting in front of it to achieve the same experience as if at the odeon.
Deacon1972
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by chenks:
“OK so lets do the maths then, see how it compares
how big is the Odeon screen and what is the optimal sitting distance for that.
then lets compare it to the average size of a consumer home curved TV and how far (or close) you would need to be sitting in front of it to achieve the same experience as if at the odeon.”

The formula depicts the optimum distance - SMPTE 30 = x1.6 screen diagonal or screen width / 0.536.

The Empire at Leicester Square has a bigger screen, 65'7" diagonal.

Optimum seating distance would be 105'

Optimum seating distance for a 55" curved TV at home would be 7'3".

Field of vision would be the same from both optimum seating positions.
White-Knight
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by Blackjack Davy:
“I'm sure my gran has an old telly from the '70's with a lovely curved screen in the attic somewhere, I should fish it out should make a fortune what with the "retro" styling!

Grew up with curved screens woudn't want to go back.”

Apart from one is concave and the other is convex.

Curved screens have been around for ages and tested with gaming apart from up until now, it's tended to be 3 separate screens. Proven immersion factor though:

http://www.vortez.net/index.php?ct=a...n=file&id=6979

http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/at...ng-3screen.jpg

You can see the difference when you look at a flat 3 monitor set up:

http://www.dsogaming.com/wp-content/...efinitysr3.jpg
Chparmar
07-11-2014
Originally Posted by White-Knight:
“
Curved screens have been around for ages and tested with gaming apart from up until now, it's tended to be 3 separate screens. Proven immersion factor though:
”

hmmm, maybe it does improve gaming then.

It's certainly more useful than 3D.
SnrDev
10-11-2014
Originally Posted by White-Knight:
“Also, the curve DOES add something to the picture / viewing experience. I've viewed them in person.”

Agreed. I've stood in John Lewis tv dept and watched a curved screen, and to my mind it did have an immersive effect where the edges of the picture disappeared and a sense of depth to the picture was apparent. With well-shot footage it conveyed an appearance of being a window into something greater beyond, as opposed to a flat view of a moving image.

Like others I wouldn't rush out & buy it tomorrow, but I wouldn't discount it, not without a proper viewing session and getting a better idea of how other things look on it, e.g. sport, panel shows, music etc. Carefully selected dreamy colourful demo footage is one thing, real world day to day viewing is what matters. When it works though it's very good.
F2kSel
15-11-2014
Curved phone screens are next.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...0IX0DG20141113
Nigel Goodwin
15-11-2014
Originally Posted by F2kSel:
“Curved phone screens are next.”

I thought the new iPhone already has a curved screen?
grahamlthompson
15-11-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“I thought the new iPhone already has a curved screen? ”

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