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zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by waylander_1973:
“I just seen the youtube video where ashliegh and chris are bitching about Biannca, can't stand it that they chosen christopher, he is going crap for that from inside the house and on this forum.

Ashleigh and Chris will not like being targeted that way.”

Yes he will get attacked for this even though it's very unfair as it's a task and he is just doing it. I have seen loads of housemates in the past get ripped apart for not doing the tasks so it's very hypocritical of them to then attack someone for attempting the task.
yellowlabbie
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Yes he will get attacked for this even though it's very unfair as it's a task and he is just doing it. I have seen loads of housemates in the past get ripped apart for not doing the tasks so it's very hypocritical of them to then attack someone for attempting the task.”

I am disappointed in him zelda fan, he could have refused, he has probably just got Chris or Ashleigh evicted on Friday. I hope there is a good excuse.
craton
16-07-2014
BB are describing Christopher as an "obedient mole", which is nice of them.

I don't blame him for anything. He's as much on BB's shite list as Ashleigh and Chris. They want them all gone before the final.
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I am disappointed in him zelda fan, he could have refused, he has probably just got Chris or Ashleigh evicted on Friday. I hope there is a good excuse.”

Try to remember he doesn't know about the eviction twist on friday like we do, he is not a mind reader.
Originally Posted by craton:
“BB are describing Christopher as an "obedient mole", which is nice of them.

I don't blame him for anything. He's as much on BB's shite list as Ashleigh and Chris. They want them all gone before the final.”

Definitely and they will try to turn all the fans of the three against each other so Mark wins at the end.
yellowlabbie
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Try to remember he doesn't know about the eviction twist on friday like we do, he i not a mind reader.


Definitely and they will try to turn all the fans of the three against each other so Mark wins at the end.”

He's not stupid, he must suspect that something isn't right surely?
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“He's not stupid, he must suspect that something isn't right surely?”

They have been told they are all up for eviction, now after what happened to Marlon you would not expect another to go by housemate vote again would you? I mean same twist twice sounds stupid.
craton
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Definitely and they will try to turn all the fans of the three against each other so Mark wins at the end.”

Yes, divide and conquer.
dorsetwasp
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Try to remember he doesn't know about the eviction twist on friday like we do, he is not a mind reader.


Definitely and they will try to turn all the fans of the three against each other so Mark wins at the end.”

BIB Spot on!
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by craton:
“Yes, divide and conquer.”

That's how i see it as well. This is only the beginning because if Ashleigh and Chris continue to be a threat to Mark they will start to engineer things so they turn on each other thus settings fans against each other. That is what they are doing right now with Christopher by setting him against Ashleigh and Chris so their fans go off him.

BB's manipulation is blatant and im surprised some can't see what they are doing, our three fandoms need to stick together if we don't want to end up with Mark or Winston as the winner. BB will try their best to divide them in there so we our divided out here.
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by dorsetwasp:
“BIB Spot on! ”

Thank you it's nice to have more like minded people who won't fall for BB's propaganda.
popmusicman
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I am disappointed in him zelda fan, he could have refused, he has probably just got Chris or Ashleigh evicted on Friday. I hope there is a good excuse.”

I feel that this is an error of judgement on Christopher's part. I understand that was not fully aware of what he was going to do and that he was playing a part in helping to evict someone.

I just feel that the concept of going behind the backs of housemates just for one meal was something he would see as wrong and Christopher so far did not seem to be a selfish person.

Christopher is intelligent guy so I am surprised he went along with it and did not think of the bigger picture. I am wondering if Christopher has worked out that the newbies are going to evict someone and made the judgement that it would better to go along with it rather than become a target. This is really his only defence

This will sadly backfire on him both in the house and maybe outside if he faces a public vote.
yellowlabbie
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by popmusicman:
“I feel that this is an error of judgement on Christopher's part. I understand that was not fully aware of what he was going to do and that he was playing a part in helping to evict someone.

I just feel that the concept of going behind the backs of housemates just for one meal was something he would see as wrong and Christopher so far did not seem to be a selfish person.

Christopher is intelligent guy so I am surprised he went along with it and did not think of the bigger picture. I am wondering if Christopher has worked out that the newbies are going to evict someone and made the judgement that it would better to go along with it rather than become a target. This is really his only defence

This will sadly backfire on him both in the house and maybe outside if he faces a public vote.”

I am hoping they have left something out and there is a good excuse for it.
mitacond
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by craton:
“Yes, divide and conquer.”

Yes I feel that too. I feel sorry for Christopher because he is lovely with Ashleigh.
KDDS07
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“That's how i see it as well. This is only the beginning because if Ashleigh and Chris continue to be a threat to Mark they will start to engineer things so they turn on each other thus settings fans against each other. That is what they are doing right now with Christopher by setting him against Ashleigh and Chris so their fans go off him.

BB's manipulation is blatant and im surprised some can't see what they are doing, our three fandoms need to stick together if we don't want to end up with Mark or Winston as the winner. BB will try their best to divide them in there so we our divided out here.”

We absolutely do. This is turning into such a mess.
KDDS07
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“Try to remember he doesn't know about the eviction twist on friday like we do, he is not a mind reader.


Definitely and they will try to turn all the fans of the three against each other so Mark wins at the end.”

That must not happen. Keep cool heads everyone. And let's not get too involved in wars of words over at the main forum either. Not a good strategy.
Angie_Plasty
16-07-2014
This is so blatant.

Two weeks ago Christopher, Ashleigh and Chris fans (and others) came together to protect their favorites in a voting block which terrified the producers and made them fear for their Helen led agenda.

That voting block has to be destroyed as it threatens in future to claim a greater scalp (from the producer's POV) than Jale. How convenient that Christopher should be tasked to be a mole and set Chris and Ashleigh up to be evicted without a public vote. It's so obvious what they are doing and why they are doing it, but sadly it seems to be working with fans of the three best HMs now perhaps falling out.

It would have been so easy for the producer's to give the three new HMs headphones and a screen and let them listen in to everyone. Why didn't they do that? Why make Christopher a "mole" (a dirty word anyway) to do this? There's only one reason, to sow division and bad blood between fans of Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher, many of whom like all three of these people and have already shown a willingness to stick together in this most manufactured and manipulated of series.

I really hope BB doesn't get their way and split us all up so they pick off our favorites one by one, as they surely hope to do.

Regarding Christopher specifically I would just like to make the following quick points, even if they are not well received...

Christopher does not know the true purpose of this task. As far as he knows he's just getting HMs to talk about the newbies. All the HMs, not just Chris and Ashleigh. Of course we know BB will release only negative things that Chris and Ashleigh say and only positive things that Helen and her gang says, but Christopher doesn't know that.

Could Christopher have refused this task? Maybe in a perfect world, but it's not a perfect world when BB is using everyone for their own ends.

Also the questions coming out of Christopher's mouth are not his own. He's being fed them and is expected to ask them.

The responses to those questions coming out of Chris and Ashleigh's mouth are also not Christopher's. Chris and Ashleigh must own their own responses. Christopher can't be blamed if they say something "wrong", though I don't believe for a second that they have. What Chris and Ashleigh said were merely opinions and observations on the new HMs, delivered without spite or hate and were opinions that most of us probably agree with.

We know the new HMs are being "steered" to pick off one of our favorites and that it will probably happen. It will just be an extra bonus for the producer's if they can break apart the loose alliance that was formed two weeks and worked so spectacularly well.

The thought of us all coming together at some point to evict the likes of Mark or Winston must keep them awake at night in a cold sweat.

I'm still sticking with Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher despite the machinations of the producers to get me to think otherwise, but I do understand the hurt and anger all this has caused, as it was intended to do, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post.
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by KDDS07:
“That must not happen. Keep cool heads everyone. And let's not get too involved in wars of words over at the main forum either. Not a good strategy.”

I think that's not going to happen sadly but i intend to stick with the three of them.
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“This is so blatant.

Two weeks ago Christopher, Ashleigh and Chris fans (and others) came together to protect their favorites in a voting block which terrified the producers and made them fear for their Helen led agenda.

That voting block has to be destroyed as it threatens in future to claim a greater scalp (from the producer's POV) than Jale. How convenient that Christopher should be tasked to be a mole and set Chris and Ashleigh up to be evicted without a public vote. It's so obvious what they are doing and why they are doing it, but sadly it seems to be working with fans of the three best HMs now perhaps falling out.

It would have been so easy for the producer's to give the three new HMs headphones and a screen and let them listen in to everyone. Why didn't they do that? Why make Christopher a "mole" (a dirty word anyway) to do this? There's only one reason, to sow division and bad blood between fans of Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher, many of whom like all three of these people and have already shown a willingness to stick together in this most manufactured and manipulated of series.

I really hope BB doesn't get their way and split us all up so they pick off our favorites one by one, as they surely hope to do.

Regarding Christopher specifically I would just like to make the following quick points, even if they are not well received...

Christopher does not know the true purpose of this task. As far as he knows he's just getting HMs to talk about the newbies. All the HMs, not just Chris and Ashleigh. Of course we know BB will release only negative things that Chris and Ashleigh say and only positive things that Helen and her gang says, but Christopher doesn't know that.

Could Christopher have refused this task? Maybe in a perfect world, but it's not a perfect world when BB is using everyone for their own ends.

Also the questions coming out of Christopher's mouth are not his own. He's being fed them and is expected to ask them.

The responses to those questions coming out of Chris and Ashleigh's mouth are also not Christopher's. Chris and Ashleigh must own their own responses. Christopher can't be blamed if they say something "wrong", though I don't believe for a second that they have. What Chris and Ashleigh said were merely opinions and observations on the new HMs, delivered without spite or hate and were opinions that most of us probably agree with.

We know the new HMs are being "steered" to pick off one of our favorites and that it will probably happen. It will just be an extra bonus for the producer's if they can break apart the loose alliance that was formed two weeks and worked so spectacularly well.

The thought of us all coming together at some point to evict the likes of Mark or Winston must keep them awake at night in a cold sweat.

I'm still sticking with Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher despite the machinations of the producers to get me to think otherwise, but I do understand the hurt and anger all this has caused, as it was intended to do, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post. ”

Brilliant post this is exactly what i have been trying to say.
Lucy Lou
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“This is so blatant.

Two weeks ago Christopher, Ashleigh and Chris fans (and others) came together to protect their favorites in a voting block which terrified the producers and made them fear for their Helen led agenda.

That voting block has to be destroyed as it threatens in future to claim a greater scalp (from the producer's POV) than Jale. How convenient that Christopher should be tasked to be a mole and set Chris and Ashleigh up to be evicted without a public vote. It's so obvious what they are doing and why they are doing it, but sadly it seems to be working with fans of the three best HMs now perhaps falling out.

It would have been so easy for the producer's to give the three new HMs headphones and a screen and let them listen in to everyone. Why didn't they do that? Why make Christopher a "mole" (a dirty word anyway) to do this? There's only one reason, to sow division and bad blood between fans of Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher, many of whom like all three of these people and have already shown a willingness to stick together in this most manufactured and manipulated of series.

I really hope BB doesn't get their way and split us all up so they pick off our favorites one by one, as they surely hope to do.

Regarding Christopher specifically I would just like to make the following quick points, even if they are not well received...

Christopher does not know the true purpose of this task. As far as he knows he's just getting HMs to talk about the newbies. All the HMs, not just Chris and Ashleigh. Of course we know BB will release only negative things that Chris and Ashleigh say and only positive things that Helen and her gang says, but Christopher doesn't know that.

Could Christopher have refused this task? Maybe in a perfect world, but it's not a perfect world when BB is using everyone for their own ends.

Also the questions coming out of Christopher's mouth are not his own. He's being fed them and is expected to ask them.

The responses to those questions coming out of Chris and Ashleigh's mouth are also not Christopher's. Chris and Ashleigh must own their own responses. Christopher can't be blamed if they say something "wrong", though I don't believe for a second that they have. What Chris and Ashleigh said were merely opinions and observations on the new HMs, delivered without spite or hate and were opinions that most of us probably agree with.

We know the new HMs are being "steered" to pick off one of our favorites and that it will probably happen. It will just be an extra bonus for the producer's if they can break apart the loose alliance that was formed two weeks and worked so spectacularly well.

The thought of us all coming together at some point to evict the likes of Mark or Winston must keep them awake at night in a cold sweat.

I'm still sticking with Chris, Ashleigh and Christopher despite the machinations of the producers to get me to think otherwise, but I do understand the hurt and anger all this has caused, as it was intended to do, in my opinion.

Sorry for the long post. ”

Crikey

I have been out for most of the day so have not caught up on the latest news yet, but your post Angie_Plasty (thank you ) explains a lot and it sounds like BB is up to nasty dealings, somehow I am not surprised as the producers have been blatantly underhand throughout this series and any bit of faith I had in them has now completely gone

I will now venture onto the main forum and catch up.........hope its not too scary on there .
Angie_Plasty
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by Lucy Lou:
“Crikey

I have been out for most of the day so have not caught up on the latest news yet, but your post Angie_Plasty (thank you ) explains a lot and it sounds like BB is up to nasty dealings, somehow I am not surprised as the producers have been blatantly underhand throughout this series and any bit of faith I had in them has now completely gone

I will now venture onto the main forum and catch up.........hope its not too scary on there .”

Very nasty dealings, Lucy.

I can totally understand why Chris and Ashleigh fans are upset. I'm upset too as a fan of all three of these great HMs.

I think we're all being set up and manipulated here.
Alrightmate
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by craton:
“BB are describing Christopher as an "obedient mole", which is nice of them.

I don't blame him for anything. He's as much on BB's shite list as Ashleigh and Chris. They want them all gone before the final.”

They do.
They are surplus to requirements for what stories BB want to focus on and promote.

Let's all keep our dignity. I don't intend to start slagging Christopher off. It would be very convenient for BB if we do that against each other.
Divide and conquer I believe it's called. A distraction tactic so that BB's favoured housemates escape scrutiny.

We need to keep tight. We know what can be done if we do get together and vote.
I would imagine that BB do as well.
Alrightmate
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“Very nasty dealings, Lucy.

I can totally understand why Chris and Ashleigh fans are upset. I'm upset too as a fan of all three of these great HMs.

I think we're all being set up and manipulated here.”

I'm more of an Asheligh supporter.
But I forgive him.

You're right I think. I do believe that BB want to weaken the kind of voting force at work the week when Jale went.
Alrightmate
16-07-2014
Oops. I just noticed that other people are on the same wavelength as I am about the divide and conquer theory. If I had known I would have acknowledged that in my post above.
Alrightmate
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by zelda fan:
“They have been told they are all up for eviction, now after what happened to Marlon you would not expect another to go by housemate vote again would you? I mean same twist twice sounds stupid.”

I would agree and say that it does sound stupid.
However I've done the tests, diagnosed the problem, and my prognosis is that it turns out that BB actually really is stupid.
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Oops. I just noticed that other people are on the same wavelength as I am about the divide and conquer theory. If I had known I would have acknowledged that in my post above.”

Definitely, a lot of us can see what is happening. BB will play this very well just wait and see, by the end of this series the only available winners will be Mark or Winston. Everyone else's fans will have been turned against each others faves.
zelda fan
16-07-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I would agree and say that it does sound stupid.
However I've done the tests, diagnosed the problem, and my prognosis is that it turns out that BB actually really is stupid.”

LOL they really are and then they wonder why the ratings are so bad. BB needs to stop emulating TOWIE and geordie shore type shows and return to what made it great.
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