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Apple kills off 3.5mm headphone jack with Lightning port Beats headphones? |
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seems very plausible. it's the apple model.
apple never make their products available for other platforms. Beats is overpriced shit anyway. a match made in heaven. |
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£100+ for headphones that only work on one platform, seems madness and implausible.
However achieving the desired fly paper ecosystem does mean some casualties along the way. I think that if they were to do this there would be a backlash as headphone connectors have been universal since back in the day. |
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As I said earlier, I'd be very surprised if it happened, and I'd certainly be looking for a different phone. I want to be able to pick up any set of headphones and use them, rather than using only Apple's own earphones or those from a very select set of manufacturers who've chosen to go down the Lightning route.
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Can you not currently use apple ear pods in other phones then?
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Headphones would need their own dedicated DAC if a digital signal was fed to them and that would make them heavier and more expensive. The DAC is best integrated into the player as it can then be powered from the device battery and use the device's CPU etc.
I am sure Apple will make the Beats range an attractive proposition for all customers and if necessary include an adaptor if they choose to supply a lightning connector on some models. The other solution may be a 'Beats for Apple' range with lightning connectors specifically made to match the range of Apple devices and hardware. |
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They would surely make two versions for lightning and the 3.5mm jack.
I think that if they were to do this there would be a backlash as headphone connectors have been universal since back in the day. Quote:
As I said earlier, I'd be very surprised if it happened, and I'd certainly be looking for a different phone. I want to be able to pick up any set of headphones and use them, rather than using only Apple's own earphones or those from a very select set of manufacturers who've chosen to go down the Lightning route.
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But not since time immemorial... they do shrink every 60 years or so and (1950s!) and 1/4 inch jacks are still in use on professional gear. So we are probably about due for another shrink but what I object to is Apple going it alone.
Exactly and that is the main reason why I will NEVER buy an Apple product - all this proprietory stuff they insist on. |
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Professional gear uses XLR, i.e broadcast.
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Yes you can. I thought you had apple devices. how would you not know this.
You stated that "apple never make their products available to other platforms" so I wasn't sure if the ear pods worked on other platforms. |
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Well I know what I meant. Insert "semi" if you like, anyway not all pro gear uses XLR. Oh... OK... you edited, oops!
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This is one crazy story. The real story was enabling the lightning socket to do more and people inferred they must be killing off the headphone socket (no way they are doing this).
iPhones will simply now have two sockets that can output audio. |
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Every radio station I have ever visited uses headphones with a 1/4" Jack plugged into the mixing desk. Some of those have XLR outputs but all I have seen have 1/4" for headphone monitoring. I have used Senheisser, Bayer Dynamic and AKG professional headphones and every pair had the same 1/4" jack.
Maybe more have moved to 1/4" these days, the benefits of XLR is they lock in place. |
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This is one crazy story. The real story was enabling the lightning socket to do more and people inferred they must be killing off the headphone socket (no way they are doing this).
iPhones will simply now have two sockets that can output audio.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a stunt like this. Remember all those iPad 3 owners who were left high and dry when Apple replaced that model with an iPad 4 with the Lightning connector, just 6 months after the iPad 3 was released?
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They would surely make two versions for lightning and the 3.5mm jack.
I think that if they were to do this there would be a backlash as headphone connectors have been universal since back in the day. Quote:
This is one crazy story. The real story was enabling the lightning socket to do more and people inferred they must be killing off the headphone socket (no way they are doing this).
iPhones will simply now have two sockets that can output audio. Not sure i would however have total confidence that they wouldn't. As I said they are always seeking ways to make the ecosystem more treacly. There are plenty of things that Apple don't provide/change and seem to get away with it so why not. |
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I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a stunt like this. Remember all those iPad 3 owners who were left high and dry when Apple replaced that model with an iPad 4 with the Lightning connector, just 6 months after the iPad 3 was released?
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And Apple will probably sell a 3.5mm adaptor for £30 for those who still want to live in the dark ages.
Every little helps the profits grow. Other companies must be well jealous. They can't even find a persuasive way to get everyone to abandon useful SD memory expansion. |
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That £30 is reason enough for Apple to want to run with it.
Every little helps the profits grow. Other companies must be well jealous. They can't even find a persuasive way to get everyone to abandon useful SD memory expansion. |
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The folks at Apple are not stupid, there is no way they would make a bone headed move like getting rid of the 3.5mm headphone jack. It just would not make any kind of business sense.
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I have an iPad mini which does not come with apple ear pods.
You stated that "apple never make their products available to other platforms" so I wasn't sure if the ear pods worked on other platforms. non of these will run on say android. to me this demonstrates that apple is prepared to compromise the availability of it's offerings to force the ecosystem. they would rather you bought an iPhone than bought music from itunes. that is their model. buying beats, to me is a couple of billion dollar spoiler, USP and advert. |
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face time, imessage, itunes
non of these will run on say android. to me this demonstrates that apple is prepared to compromise the availability of it's offerings to force the ecosystem. they would rather you bought an iPhone than bought music from itunes. that is their model. buying beats, to me is a couple of billion dollar spoiler, USP and advert. I assume what you want is for every supplier to just make their designs and functions available to everyone? I'm not sure why you want the mobile phone market to be different to others, but I'm sure you have some logic behind it. |
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Of course judging by some of the IOS users posts on recent threads in which they find choice a bad thing, perhaps the myriad of 3.5 headphones is very confusing and they would be happier if Apple told them they could no longer be used.
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I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled a stunt like this. Remember all those iPad 3 owners who were left high and dry when Apple replaced that model with an iPad 4 with the Lightning connector, just 6 months after the iPad 3 was released?
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...Apple provide features unique to their devices in order to encourage you to buy them and stay with them. ....
And they certainly do their best to keep the web backwards moving. Even Microsoft is acknowledge Android as a cloud platform that needs to be serviced for its users. Apple hangs on hard to being a hardware company, not a software service company. |
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Of course judging by some of the IOS users posts on recent threads in which they find choice a bad thing, perhaps the myriad of 3.5 headphones is very confusing and they would be happier if Apple told them they could no longer be used.
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