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Unique is often 1 step forward and 2 steps back with Apple.
And they certainly do their best to keep the web backwards moving. Even Microsoft is acknowledge Android as a cloud platform that needs to be serviced for its users. Apple hangs on hard to being a hardware company, not a software service company. ![]() Oh, and I see you've mentioned the web thing again. I'm sure I've asked for an example of how this impacts me but you seem to struggle with a meaningful example. Do you want to try again? Do you think you cannot access the cloud on apple devices? Are you sure you have ever used one? |
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What utter nonsense and anti-Apple hysteria. I was an iPad 3 owner and don't remember being left "high and dry" when Apple came out with the iPad 4. Please tell me in what actual way the new model impacted on my use of the previous model ?
Even Android devices have longer shelf lives than a 6 month gap, so I think the many iPad 3 owners who were furious at the launch of the iPad 4 were right to be angry.
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... but you seem to struggle with a meaningful example. Do you want to try again?..
That lyric "We don't need no education, leave us kidspud alone" rings true 100%. Stop trolling
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Oh, I totally agree. Apple provide features unique to their devices in order to encourage you to buy them and stay with them. Pretty much the same a other phone providers (sony, htc, samsung, etc) and in fact many other products in many other markets.
I assume what you want is for every supplier to just make their designs and functions available to everyone? I'm not sure why you want the mobile phone market to be different to others, but I'm sure you have some logic behind it. I haven't even hinted at what I want, or how I feel about Apple's model. I've simply described it. You took it as a criticism, but that is how you feel, not me. |
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LOL, there was no arguing with you back then was there?
That lyric "We don't need no education, leave us kidspud alone" rings true 100%. Stop trolling ![]() |
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It's not nonsense. That is what happened. You can look it up if you are unsure of it. I feel sorry for all those iPad 3 owners who cannot use all the newly released accessories as they only work with the Lightning connector.
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Even Android devices have longer shelf lives than a 6 month gap, so I think the many iPad 3 owners who were furious at the launch of the iPad 4 were right to be angry. They had no right to be angry, again, how were they affected. Technology changes from time to time. Apple made one change to their connector in 10 years, the old 30 pin connector was long in the tooth and long overdue for an overhaul.. I believe Samsung had 18 different charger connectors in that time. Also, Apple are not afraid to go it alone with better technology, the lightning connector is infinitely preferable to that appalling micro USB.
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I am not unsure of it, I remember it distinctly. I repeat, please tell me how I personally was affected by the iPad 4 release. My wife is still using the iPad 3 and she certainly has suffered nothing.
They had no right to be angry, again, how were they affected. Technology changes from time to time. Apple made one change to their connector in 10 years, the old 30 pin connector was long in the tooth and long overdue for an overhaul.. I believe Samsung had 18 different charger connectors in that time. Also, Apple are not afraid to go it alone with better technology, the lightning connector is infinitely preferable to that appalling micro USB. Samsung have been using Micro USB since at least 2009. It is a perfectly fine connector and has the added benefit of being compatible with numerous devices and not just with one manufacturer.
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The Galaxy S4 and Note3 could output audio via its USB connector yet retained the headphone jack. I would assume (hope) that Apple arnt stupid enough to get rid of the 3.5mm jack.
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I was trying to work out how Apple would play it.
Could putting in some extra buttons for the headphones allow buyers to justify headphones that only work with Apple kit? Maybe so if it is only £20 for an 3.5mm adapter. More likely I would suggest that headphones will get supplied with a free 3.5mm adapter. Other reports also had ear heart and temperature monitor being put in the ear piece. That feature could make Beats sound less a rip off. Personally I think Apple would be best to beat a path to bluetooth headphones. Bluetooth and bassy Beats go together OK. |
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I feel sorry for all those iPad 3 owners who cannot use all the newly released accessories as they only work with the Lightning connector.
The ones most hard done by were the iPod / iPhone users that bought expensive audio docks just before the connector changed. Although that was was sorted by an adaptor, which some high-end dock manufacturers provided FOC to existing customers - mind you some of the cheaper docks didn't even work with an adaptor. iPad users were not so much effected I would have thought, as they were not normally used with audio docks. Anyway accessories that rely on the lightning connector were few and far between, and were practically non existent until long after the iPad 4 came out. |
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nothing really new about getting rid of a 3.5mm jack
I had an old samsung flip phone that used a strange mini usb style connector for the headphones. But you could not connect it to a computer. You could only get a certain type of headphone to fit the phone, same with another phone i had as well - can't think what that one was. do not fret as china will sell you a device to convert it for a fraction of the cost. Oh well at least we can know who to mug (or are mugs) as all beat users will be apple users.. hahaha |
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Oh, I totally agree. Apple provide features unique to their devices in order to encourage you to buy them and stay with them. Pretty much the same a other phone providers (sony, htc, samsung, etc) and in fact many other products in many other markets.
I assume what you want is for every supplier to just make their designs and functions available to everyone? I'm not sure why you want the mobile phone market to be different to others, but I'm sure you have some logic behind it. |
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Oh please don't. Google provide an excellent Goole experience to iOS users as do Microsoft (who give it to Android as well). The difference is Apple are a hardware manufacturer and Google & Microsoft are service providers.
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1417408.ece
"It means that profits generated by sales of its headphones to British customers will be taxed at the republic’s low corporate tax. Ireland levies a 12.5% charge on company profits, compared with 21% in the UK." I'd ignore that 12.5%, possibly it is just another 'no fixed abode' thing ending up at a 1% or less paid to Ireland. They do say 'grate' minds think alike. It does grate when companies have low standards. |
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http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/...cle1417408.ece
"It means that profits generated by sales of its headphones to British customers will be taxed at the republic’s low corporate tax. Ireland levies a 12.5% charge on company profits, compared with 21% in the UK." I'd ignore that 12.5%, possibly it is just another 'no fixed abode' thing ending up at a 1% or less paid to Ireland. They do say 'grate' minds think alike. It does grate when companies have low standards. |
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Yes, I wish the uk government would do something about the tax laws that companies like google and amazon exploit. It's not really clear why they don't.
when a company is determined it's very difficult to stop them. all of these tax 'loopholes' exist for good reasons and there would be casualties if they were closed. they then get used in ways that they were not intended. unfortunately there is no mechanism for just saying 'i call BS' pay up or **** off. |
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It's like herding cats.
when a company is determined it's very difficult to stop them. all of these tax 'loopholes' exist for good reasons and there would be casualties if they were closed. they then get used in ways that they were not intended. unfortunately there is no mechanism for just saying 'i call BS' pay up or **** off. However, blaming the companies seems an easy option when it is the government that needs to deal with it. |
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I think sometimes we have made the tax laws so complex that we do ourselves no favours.
However, blaming the companies seems an easy option when it is the government that needs to deal with it. setting up your headquarters in dublin to take advantage of their lower corporation tax is fine if that is actually where your headquarters are. are tim cook and dr dre moving to dublin? no their headquarters will be in cupertino. |
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We already have a perfectly acceptable standard for sound delivery digitally without the need for a cable as a bonus as well as allowing you to charge your phone, tablet or device - Bluetooth headphones and speakers. With AptX and the changes Google made to increase sound quality for non AptX phones and headphones, the problem of sound quality has largely been resolved. How about that rather than a properitary system designed to create exclusivity, profit and potentially DRM for Apple?
They have become the very thing they hated being embodied within Microsoft in the 80s and 90s. |
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...all of these tax 'loopholes' exist for good reasons and there would be casualties if they were closed..
Its liooks such a certainty, that near no one in the media mentions debt, just the economical with the truth word 'deficit'. |
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Much because of it UK debt is increasing towards an Armageddon.
Majorly caused by this, that unstoppable train will have a near 100% casualty. you do not, for example pay tax on loans. because you know that would be stupid. so a loop hole then exists where one part of a company can loan money to another part. |
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Beats Headphones are utter shite.
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setting up your headquarters in dublin to take advantage of their lower corporation tax is fine if that is actually where your headquarters are. are tim cook and dr dre moving to dublin? no their headquarters will be in cupertino.
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If Apple did this with their iOS devices would there be a possibility they would do it with Macs? I'd hate to replace one of my Macs and find I had to spend another quid on headphones.
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If Apple did this with their iOS devices would there be a possibility they would do it with Macs? I'd hate to replace one of my Macs and find I had to spend another quid on headphones.
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