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Which housemate are you all voting to evict on Friday? Chris really must stay this week.
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#252 |
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Which housemate are you all voting to evict on Friday? Chris really must stay this week.
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#253 |
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I actually popped in to say that I've just come off Tellymix and Chris seems to have a lot of support over there.
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Zoe. I hope others do the same. I never thought she would get on my nerves but she really is.
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G'Morning
![]() May I join you all ? I've been looking for sanctuary from main to be with like minded sane FMs. I can't take it no more, like hitting my head against a brick wall. I woke up this morning, looked on the 1st page on main and for some unknown reason I began to cry, still am FGS this is just a tv show, why the hell am I crying.I have supported Chris from day one, through all his highs and low, and I shall support him until the end. It breaks my heart seeing everyone turn on Chris like this, if Chris farts it's twisted around that he's trying to gas Pav. Chris is no bully, he is not victimizing Pav nor isolating him. We all come across some ppl in our lives for no rational reason you just do not take to them, you are unable to pin point it. Seems Chris feels the same way about Pav, he can not say why but he feels there is something about him he does not trust nor like, this is human nature, you can not like EVERYONE you meet. Winston was right, the next move Pav will make is pulling out the sympathy card. Sorry for going on and on, but I really need to get this off my chest. |
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I'm voting to evict Zoe but as I've said elsewhere, my only fear is that there will be so many split votes between Pav and Zoe that the newbies end up staying and Chris will go.
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#257 |
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I'm going to be honest here. I was a huge Chris fan and I still do like him but this week has been terrible for him. I do feel for Pav because I don't actually understand the suspicion of him. I blame the ex HMs. Do they not now wonder that because of the comments that they have unleashed the hostility towards him. The only reason Zoe has gotten off more lightly is because of crowd reaction which is ridiculous. But anyway Chris has been getting a lot of the stick, I do think Chris needs to let it go before it further damages him as it already seems to be doing (he is now 5th fave to win, with Mark 6th), both having bad weeks.
I am saying in my head, "Chris, just stop" because I don't want him to be evicted, and I also don't want Pav to be evicted. So my opinion is that those who want Chris to stay, they need to evict Zoe; and Pav fans should also evict Zoe. It's the best scenario for both Pav and Chris. If Pav stays, then everyone will think, "wow, we were pretty harsh on him", but if he goes, the HMs will probably continue and say "I knew we were right, the public don't like him". This is coming from someone who doesn't like Chris AS much but I still do like him... and a big fan of Ashleigh and Christopher. So to sum up.... evict Zoe! |
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Well the first bookies have spoken: http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/next-eviction Pav is favourite, Chris a close 2nd and Zoe at over twice the odds in 3rd. If your heart is saying evict Zoe because you genuinely want her out then feel free. But if you're voting Zoe as a Save Chris vote I honestly don't see any logic in it. Pav is the one Chris doesn't get on with. Pav is the one dragging Chris down. Pav is the one causing viewers to blacken Chris' name. So surely - not just to keep Chris in the house but to make him happier and therefore more popular - Pav is the one who has to go. I was glad Steven went on Friday, I felt Pav was just a nice, normal guy who was struggling to gel. But I can see now he's wallowing in a victim status, EVERYONE'S made an effort with him and everyone's commented on his behaviour. By Friday he will have had the same number of weeks in the house as Toya and what has he done with that time other than make the viewers think he's being ostracised? I really hope Chris gets some loyalty from inside the house this week and they can expose Pav's game without it coming across as though they're bullying him. Quote:
I woke up this morning, looked on the 1st page on main and for some unknown reason I began to cry, still am
FGS this is just a tv show, why the hell am I crying. I found it heartbreaking seeing all the anti-Chris bile pouring out all over the place. Not because of the show - in a way it would be nice to have an excuse not to watch anymore (and I'm only dipping in and out of the highlights since Armageddon Farce). It's because some people lose sight of the fact that these aren't fictional characters, they're flesh and blood humans who have to come out of that house and go back to real life. I dread the flack Chris is going to have to face, especially if he's evicted this week. I hope he keeps off Twitter and his home town friends look after him.Chris is a complex character, not easy to understand and often his tactics are frustrating. But I see him as nothing but very kind hearted, awkward, razor sharp and with a hint of Eeyore. There are plenty of times when I think Christopher and Ashleigh have done more to deserve a win but I've always been consistent in finding Chris my favourite person in that house by a mile. |
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#259 |
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I actually popped in to say that I've just come off Tellymix and Chris seems to have a lot of support over there.
But to do that it needs a lot of effort immediately before the bookies odds settle too much. |
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#260 |
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Tellymix poll for who goes:
http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big-brother Vote on it. At the moment on that Zoe and Pav are the top two. Keep voting on that poll so that Zoe and Pav continue to be neck and neck. |
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Well the first bookies have spoken:
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/next-eviction Pav is favourite, Chris a close 2nd and Zoe at over twice the odds in 3rd. If your heart is saying evict Zoe because you genuinely want her out then feel free. But if you're voting Zoe as a Save Chris vote I honestly don't see any logic in it. Pav is the one Chris doesn't get on with. Pav is the one dragging Chris down. Pav is the one causing viewers to blacken Chris' name. So surely - not just to keep Chris in the house but to make him happier and therefore more popular - Pav is the one who has to go. I was glad Steven went on Friday, I felt Pav was just a nice, normal guy who was struggling to gel. But I can see now he's wallowing in a victim status, EVERYONE'S made an effort with him and everyone's commented on his behaviour. By Friday he will have had the same number of weeks in the house as Toya and what has he done with that time other than make the viewers think he's being ostracised? I really hope Chris gets some loyalty from inside the house this week and they can expose Pav's game without it coming across as though they're bullying him. Then I have to confess you're not the only one. I found it heartbreaking seeing all the anti-Chris bile pouring out all over the place. Not because of the show - in a way it would be nice to have an excuse not to watch anymore (and I'm only dipping in and out of the highlights since Armageddon Farce). It's because some people lose sight of the fact that these aren't fictional characters, they're flesh and blood humans who have to come out of that house and go back to real life. I dread the flack Chris is going to have to face, especially if he's evicted this week. I hope he keeps off Twitter and his home town friends look after him.Chris is a complex character, not easy to understand and often his tactics are frustrating. But I see him as nothing but very kind hearted, awkward, razor sharp and with a hint of Eeyore. There are plenty of times when I think Christopher and Ashleigh have done more to deserve a win but I've always been consistent in finding Chris my favourite person in that house by a mile. I believe Pav is the best target to help Chris. |
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Hi folks. A Pav supporter here bumping my own post Just to say I'm happy to vote out Zoe. She adds nothing and I'm seriously not interested in her. If Pav goes this Friday and assuming it's a close vote Chris won't necessarily be out of the water as people aren't going to forget but Chris won't have any chance of turning it around. Pav has said he likes Chris and I think there's a mutual compatability so if he stays they have a chance. Well I hope so ![]() Quote:
Hi folks. I'm a Pav supporter
I haven't been that complimentary about Chris lately but I'd definitely join in and vote Zoe out to save Chris and Pav. It's a pity really as it seems on paper anyway that they could have been good friends Maybe they'll have a chance if they both stay ![]() |
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#263 |
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Hi folks. A Pav supporter here bumping my own post
Just to say I'm happy to vote out Zoe. She adds nothing and I'm seriously not interested in her. If Pav goes this Friday and assuming it's a close vote Chris won't necessarily be out of the water as people aren't going to forget but Chris won't have any chance of turning it around. Pav has said he likes Chris and I think there's a mutual compatability so if he stays they have a chance. Well I hope so ![]() I think that at least there's a story going on with Chris and Pav. There's something there to play out between them. There's potential interest there.With Zoe she's offering nothing to me other than an audition, and I don't find her particularly interesting. At the moment there is no 'most likely to go', based on the bookies opening books. As seen with previous weeks the point of voting is to elicit change. Zoe can be made to go if people have the will to make it happen. |
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Well the first bookies have spoken:
http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/next-eviction Pav is favourite, Chris a close 2nd and Zoe at over twice the odds in 3rd. What we need is new polls. Last night's show appeared to make a huge difference. Twitter was awash with attacks on Chris. "Poor Pav" trended world-wide. After Chris was labelled "creepy" on BOTS, there was a surge in "creepy Chris" tweets as well. However, many of the polls -- especially favourite / least favourite ones -- started before then, and lots of people voted before last night's show too. This forum's "Who Do You Want To Evict?" poll started 27-07-2014, 22:00 -- the night before last night's show. We need a poll that started after. Quote:
If your heart is saying evict Zoe because you genuinely want her out then feel free. But if you're voting Zoe as a Save Chris vote I honestly don't see any logic in it. I agree, at least as things now stand.Pav is the one Chris doesn't get on with. Pav is the one dragging Chris down. Pav is the one causing viewers to blacken Chris' name. So surely - not just to keep Chris in the house but to make him happier and therefore more popular - Pav is the one who has to go. Pav's newfound status as the chosen underdog / victim to support and defend makes his presence in the house very dangerous for any HM who is negative to or about him. However, it can also make him hard to vote out. That's one reason I'm not going to vote until I see what develops over the next few days. * Perhaps the Pav situation will be resolved in a positive way in the house, so that it stops being a danger. * Perhaps something will show the criticisms of Pav are justified. * Perhaps something will make it much more likely that Zoe will go And so on. Quote:
I was glad Steven went on Friday, I felt Pav was just a nice, normal guy who was struggling to gel. But I can see now he's wallowing in a victim status, EVERYONE'S made an effort with him and everyone's commented on his behaviour. By Friday he will have had the same number of weeks in the house as Toya and what has he done with that time other than make the viewers think he's being ostracised? I'm still undecided about what Pav's doing and what his motives are. BB can't be trusted to give us a view that isn't misleading, about Chris, about Pav, or about anything, really. So I'm reluctant to come to firm conclusions.I really hope Chris gets some loyalty from inside the house this week and they can expose Pav's game without it coming across as though they're bullying him. Then I have to confess you're not the only one. I found it heartbreaking seeing all the anti-Chris bile pouring out all over the place. Not because of the show - in a way it would be nice to have an excuse not to watch anymore (and I'm only dipping in and out of the highlights since Armageddon Farce). It's because some people lose sight of the fact that these aren't fictional characters, they're flesh and blood humans who have to come out of that house and go back to real life. I dread the flack Chris is going to have to face, especially if he's evicted this week. I hope he keeps off Twitter and his home town friends look after him.Chris is a complex character, not easy to understand and often his tactics are frustrating. But I see him as nothing but very kind hearted, awkward, razor sharp and with a hint of Eeyore. There are plenty of times when I think Christopher and Ashleigh have done more to deserve a win but I've always been consistent in finding Chris my favourite person in that house by a mile. But I agree that it would be horrible for Chris if he was evicted this week and saw, or was even told about, some of what's being said about him.
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Hi there.
I think that at least there's a story going on with Chris and Pav. There's something there to play out between them. There's potential interest there.With Zoe she's offering nothing to me other than an audition, and I don't find her particularly interesting. At the moment there is no 'most likely to go', based on the bookies opening books. As seen with previous weeks the point of voting is to elicit change. Zoe can be made to go if people have the will to make it happen. I don't find the Pav - Chris story interesting. I find it and its effects unpleasant. It takes screen time away from things I'd rather see. It takes discussion away from things I'd rather discuss. Indeed, I'm close to giving up on bb15 because of it. Zoe going won't change anything I want very much to change; Pav going could. |
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I only see more Hell for Chris concerning Pav if Zoe goes.
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I would rather see Zoe go because I really believe that once Chris sees Pav saved from eviction from the public that he will rein back his distrust of Pav and the two of them will have time to seriously mend fences. Pav has a lot of support in a short time and I think Chris would gain back his original housemate status if he can work things out with Pav.
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The less Zoe offers, and the less impact it seems Zoe will have, the more I want her to stay over Pav, because it will do less damage to the things that interest me.
I don't find the Pav - Chris story interesting. I find it and its effects unpleasant. It takes screen time away from things I'd rather see. It takes discussion away from things I'd rather discuss. Indeed, I'm close to giving up on bb15 because of it. Zoe going won't change anything I want very much to change; Pav going could. I don't know. I think that I'll have to be quiet about this one because I can't say that I'm sure what the best option is and I don't want to help mess things up by supporting what may be a bad choice in hindsight. |
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I only see more Hell for Chris concerning Pav if Zoe goes.
![]() Chris has put too much faith into what the HM's told them in the task. I think Pav and Chris could be friends. Maybe it would be worse for Chris if Pav was to leave now before they get on better. I think Zoe leaving would be the best thing. |
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I would rather see Zoe go because I really believe that once Chris sees Pav saved from eviction from the public that he will rein back his distrust of Pav and the two of them will have time to seriously mend fences. Pav has a lot of support in a short time and I think Chris would gain back his original housemate status if he can work things out with Pav.
A lot could depend on what Pav wants to happen, and it's not yet clear what his goals and motives are. BB is pushing the story as "bitching about Pav", for instance when they discussed his letter. It will be interesting to see whether the highlights -- like the clip -- show that Ashleigh (unlike some others) correctly remembered what the letter said about a goal and pointed out that it didn't have to have the meaning some were putting on it, or whether the highlights go with a purely "bitching about Pav" version. So it needs BB to let up too. |
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Maybe, but if Pav goes then this will be left up in the air and people will remember Chris as never resolving the situation, which could perhaps not improve his standing in the next two weeks. It may still be used against him because two weeks isn't long. If Chris can overcome this thing which he seems to have got lodged in his head then I think he'd be all the more better for it in the long run.
. Chris and Pav need to sort things out. Zoe going this week,will make a big difference in the house. Hopefully Pav will get cheers and Chris and Pav have a task together. |
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http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...pav-again.htm
It'll be Creepy Chris and Chris the Perv again and might even cause some Ashleigh fans to vote to evict Chris again Starting to get really annoyed at the way the HLs are showing him as only ever talking about Pav and Ashleigh |
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Maybe, but if Pav goes then this will be left up in the air and people will remember Chris as never resolving the situation, which could perhaps not improve his standing in the next two weeks. It may still be used against him because two weeks isn't long. If Chris can overcome this thing which he seems to have got lodged in his head then I think he'd be all the more better for it in the long run.
But we have 'till Friday to decide. Chris has less time. It needs to be turned around soon, today really, so that it can be in tomorrow's HLs and be reinforced by highlights later on -- and so votes against Chris don't keep accumulating. But Thursday at the latest. However, I think the best result would be for the "Pav factor" to be defused somehow. If that doesn't happen, if Pav continues to get a big "support the victim underdog" reaction, and it's still thought that the HMs are picking on him, then I think there's no good way out, and we have to decide which is least bad. Quote:
I don't know. I think that I'll have to be quiet about this one because I can't say that I'm sure what the best option is and I don't want to help mess things up by supporting what may be a bad choice in hindsight.
I agree ... except that disagreement now could be good if it stops people from choosing too soon how to spend their voting money.
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http://tellymix.co.uk/reality-tv/big...pav-again.htm
It'll be Creepy Chris and Chris the Perv again and might even cause some Ashleigh fans to vote to evict Chris again Starting to get really annoyed at the way the HLs are showing him as only ever talking about Pav and Ashleigh |
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FGS this is just a tv show, why the hell am I crying.
Just to say I'm happy to vote out Zoe. She adds nothing and I'm seriously not interested in her. If Pav goes this Friday and assuming it's a close vote Chris won't necessarily be out of the water as people aren't going to forget but Chris won't have any chance of turning it around.
I haven't been that complimentary about Chris lately
Maybe they'll have a chance if they both stay