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The Chris appreciation thread
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ruffle
12-08-2014
Originally Posted by xNATILLYx:
“chris doesn't have a chance now its the ashleigh vs Helen show
i wouldn't be surprised if its the 2 girls now in the final 2.
any Helen supporter should be ashamed , they to me are as vile as her supporting one of the nasty bullies of the world.
no way should that be the winner or the person that gets a 100k”

That is so not the case all the polls that have been started today all have Chris n third place Helen still only one vote between Helen and pave it is only a few on each forum being very controversial Stirring the pot and it working keep voting and don't lissen
If she was gaining ground today's polls would have reflected that but thy have not changed after last week and wins ton going people are backing the long shot hoping to fill there pockets but bb will be the winner by all this as people will be voting more although. Font agree with it the papers are still writing not so nice things about Helen that will effect the public vote not so much on the forums but the people on the streets
Keep voting Chris deserves to be up there with the best
ValW
13-08-2014
Let's stay positive! Surely Helen's price at the bookies' wouldn't have dropped so much and so suddenly if it was a normal shift in public opinion. It feels like a few massive orchestrated bets to me.

Helen's fans might be very vocal but I want to stay confident that there's enough of an "Anyone But Helen" vote to counteract it.
Pollyusa
13-08-2014
Originally Posted by ValW:
“My mistake - watching the repeat back, he refused to touch the box as well. If you watch the online video where Helen goes for a blub in the toilet, you can hear Ashleigh say it's the "worst effort Big Brother's ever seen" and Chris says "I wear that with MASSIVE pride." ”

I missed that last bit.
Rikki65
13-08-2014
Last week I voted my socks off to keep Chris and Christopher from getting the chop, and each time they've been up together or with Ashleigh I've done the same. I had made up my mind to spread my votes to win 3 ways this week amongst the three of them. But I have been having a think based on a PM I had from someone on the BB facebook page. The question was put to me that did I think Christopher really love Chris as much as he confesses to as on 2-3 occasions when he could have voted to safe Chris from the public vote he didn't hesitate to put him up. There was that occasion when the first to call out Chris name to join others for eviction was Christopher. Then not knowing the sham eviction was just that, he again allowed Ash to persuade him to vote Chris out over Pav to whom he had no loyalty. I pointed out that Christopher stuck up for Chris in the shouting match with Helen, and I really loved him for doing that. However, what's made me think twice now is what was Christophers real motive behind it his vociferous "protection" of Chris? Was it a reverse psychology thing to make sure the public, wrongly, saw a man that was was "weak" a man with "no balls" a man "who let his friends fight his battles" (something pointed out by Mark and the people in BBOTS) therefore showing him in a bad light to voters. Chris was saved by his loyal supporters and people with a sense of justice, but he could well have been out last Friday based on how he was portrayed following Christopher's row with Helen, and Christopher portrayed as the hero of the hour. My head is all over the place now as I don't want to be wrongly disloyal to Christopher if there was no ulterior motive to his standing up for Chris, but the seed has been sewn which does make a lot of sense. Just wanted to get that off my chest somewhere where I won't be shouted down.
ValW
13-08-2014
Rikki it's a VERY good question and I can't blame you for feeling confused. That fake eviction was an absolute shambles. We had to wait 24 hours between the news breaking and the highlights to find out exactly how much Christopher and Ash knew about what they were doing. That's a long period of time when we're voting for a winner and all of them should have a level playing field this week but obviously BB aren't going to let that happen.

Chris and Christopher's friendship has always baffled me and I think it's down to bad editing. To me they seem like the most natural allies but it doesn't always get shown that way. They've both nominated each other, Christopher wasn't even considered for the Power Alliance and Christopher has been portrayed as more interested in his trivial pursuit of Mark than in being friends with someone like Chris who would show him some genuine support.

Yet here they are in the last week, Christopher saying he'd defend Chris to the death (but still "evicting" him) and Chris saying he'd be thrilled to see Christopher beat him in the final. I do give Christopher the benefit of the doubt and think during the "eviction" he only agreed to Chris because he thought he would take it the best (which he certainly did).

I marked Chris and Christopher out as my winners from their VTs and I've never wavered in that. If Chris didn't win I'd rather it was Christopher than Ashleigh as the fan wars are getting pretty nasty now. But for the past couple of weeks I've thrown all my weight onto supporting Chris because Christopher has a big enough fan base of his own. Team Chris are approaching the campaign with a lot of humour and are treating the show with the contempt it deserves, which appeals to me.

Originally Posted by Pollyusa:
“I missed that last bit. ”

It wasn't on the highlights but you can hear it on this clip as Helen walks off:

http://youtu.be/5_tPOi4rMVk

Or on Daily Motion: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23...her_shortfilms
blue_angel
13-08-2014
*waves*

Hello! I just wanted to say that I sent in the question that was asked for Chris here (I also sent in the one Ash was asked too!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrD...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw

I just wanted to explain that I don't think that Chris does favour Ashleigh, I think he treasures them both, but that's what's been perceived due to the highlights shows editing and story focus. I think C & C's friendship is more evident in the very limited website vids and tweets we receive, and I'm sure if we got a live feed it would be even more prevalent.

I basically wanted to give Chris a chance to address how much he values both friendships without it being edited down or twisted. I love both Chris and Christopher and have voted for them both to win as they both have good hearts, an extremely interesting a layered personality ,and both are beautifully articulate, intelligent and perceptive in their comments. Neither are perfect, but then that's something that makes me like them more.

I thought Chris answered the question so well, and hope he doesn't think too much about it!!
ValW
13-08-2014
Your link doesn't work but well done anyway.
blue_angel
13-08-2014
Originally Posted by ValW:
“Your link doesn't work but well done anyway. ”

Rats! Me and my luddite fingers apologise!

Here it is;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrD...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw
shazap40
13-08-2014
After watching this.....

http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-7...thash.xg7B22ix

And after saving up my votes, they will all go to Chris as I cannot bear to watch Steven anymore and his slating of Chris. As long as Chris is in the top 3 (which is doubtful at the moment) I will be happy......just need Helen to go off on one again before Friday to swing it
ValW
13-08-2014
Steven's turning into the best weapon Team Chris has ever had! I've seen plenty of people saying they'll vote Chris just to annoy GoodeForNothing. Stay positive and keep voting as much as you can safely afford.

Originally Posted by blue_angel:
“Rats! Me and my luddite fingers apologise!

Here it is;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBrD...1ZVvfpyJIloNrw”

It was an excellent question and he answered it very well. As I said in my earlier post I think a lot of Chris and Christopher's interactions have fallen to bad editing which has left us very confused as to why they speak so highly of each other when we don't see them together that much.

Kudos for getting insulted by Ash as well, showed him up for the arrogant git he is!
xorosetylerxo
13-08-2014
If Chris wins I will tweet Steve and his mother thanks because they are really helping the cause
Barney06
13-08-2014
Have not got a favourite , anyone but Helen really , thought it would be safer to post this here rather than the main forum Chris in a short video clip .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZtPdEuUZv0
blue_angel
13-08-2014
Originally Posted by ValW:
“Steven's turning into the best weapon Team Chris has ever had! I've seen plenty of people saying they'll vote Chris just to annoy GoodeForNothing. Stay positive and keep voting as much as you can safely afford.


It was an excellent question and he answered it very well. As I said in my earlier post I think a lot of Chris and Christopher's interactions have fallen to bad editing which has left us very confused as to why they speak so highly of each other when we don't see them together that much.

Kudos for getting insulted by Ash as well, showed him up for the arrogant git he is! ”


I was just going to tweet questions about the housemates I didn't like as much, because they said be 'tough'. But I thought about how tough questions can actually make someone look good if they are answered in the right way. I knew BB would get lots of sh**ty questions about Pav, or "fancying" Ashleigh where any response he gave would probably have to be defensive. I thought a question about Christopher would give him the opportunity to speak nicely about someone he cares about, even though the tweet was worded provocatively. I just hope he doesn't worry about it!


Yeah, you made an excellent point about the editing. That's essentially what I wanted my tweet to imply; that it's edited like he's never a whisker away from Ashleigh, when actually he's just as good a friend to Christopher too. They seem to have a quiet understanding (despite the "evicting" which I don't think Christopher's heart was really in anyway) and I thought it would be good to see Chris articulate that with a question rather than having to hear him defend himself yet again with the same two questions. He answered it so well, which I knew he would. However, as it didn't involve the Helen/Ashleigh fight, I'm sure it won't make the highlights show!

Yeah, my Ash question just confirmed my thoughts. I never called him unintelligent or suggested that what he did wasn't fun. I just threw back the comment he made in the highlights show that 'what they did was fun and good viewing' and the others having conversations in the corner wasn't. I gave him the opportunity to defend how it was edited, same as I did with Chris, and he just showed me that the edit was correct!

Steven is just a plank! He just doesn't do himself any favours does he? It just makes him look petty, and he wasn't looking too great in the first place!
Vincy82
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by ValW:
“Steven's turning into the best weapon Team Chris has ever had! I've seen plenty of people saying they'll vote Chris just to annoy GoodeForNothing. Stay positive and keep voting as much as you can safely afford.


It was an excellent question and he answered it very well. As I said in my earlier post I think a lot of Chris and Christopher's interactions have fallen to bad editing which has left us very confused as to why they speak so highly of each other when we don't see them together that much.

Kudos for getting insulted by Ash as well, showed him up for the arrogant git he is! ”

Zoe annoyed me because her feedback seems to suggest that Chris was bit being not genuine with his answer "you very intelligent/clever, you know the right things to say". Might be just me being overly sensitive.
mmpfb
14-08-2014
Chris is behind both Helen and Ash in the betting now?
shelleyj89
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Chris is behind both Helen and Ash in the betting now? ”

I don't pay much attention to that. Winston was 4th favourite to go last week I think?

Also, I loved Ashleigh's reaction to Chris coming back. She clearly values their friendship just as much as he does.
blue_angel
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“I don't pay much attention to that. Winston was 4th favourite to go last week I think?

Also, I loved Ashleigh's reaction to Chris coming back. She clearly values their friendship just as much as he does.”

Yeah, I'm trying not to look at the betting! I think generally the polls have been more accurate in defining who's leaving each week. Part of the more analytical aspect of me wants to compile a chart of what the betting was vs. what the polls said vs. who got evicted to see which was more accurate! The other part of me is saying, just leave it be!

Winston was well off being 2nd evicted in the 'betting' last week and by all accounts it was between Chris and Pav on the odds, so I still have hope, even in a heavy edited Helen highlights week.

Yeah, Ashleigh clearly values Chris as a friend. She isn't the most demonstrative or emotionally verbal of people which is why their friendship was misconstrued as so one sided. It's clear how fond of each other they are and how ignorant people are on the fact that people of different ages and genders can be friends.
mmpfb
14-08-2014
Yeah I hope the betting is just reflecting CH5s favouring of H&A this last week or so i.e. people taking punts in the belief it may influence the results successfully. Similarly I hope CH5s efforts are falling short and Chris' support is solid.

I half expect Helen to finish above Chris, but if Ash and Pav do so as well then I'll be all WTF
blue_angel
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“Yeah I hope the betting is just reflecting CH5s favouring of H&A this last week or so i.e. people taking punts in the belief it may influence the results successfully. Similarly I hope CH5s efforts are falling short and Chris' support is solid.

I half expect Helen to finish above Chris, but if Ash and Pav do so as well then I'll be all WTF ”

My ideal is Chris/Christopher as a winner/second finish. I don't mind in what order, I really like them both. Which is unusual as in most recent years there isn't even anyone that I cared if they won or not!! Then it would be Asleigh in third. I honestly couldn't care where Helen, Ash and Pav come as long as it's bottom three.

That's my dream scenario anyway. My realistic hope is that either Christopher and Ashleigh come first and second and Chris manages to nab third. As much as I want and am voting for Chris to win, I'm not sure he's got the momentum behind him ;( The fact that the editing has been so Helen focused this week that the camera has been practically up her a*se, hasn't seemed to help.

What I'm really worried about is Helen beating Chris into third, which is seeming more and more likely unfortunately. I'm not entirely sure she won't gazump Christopher for second to be honest. I'm not giving up, but it's a hard battle to fight. I can't see him getting less votes than Ash and Pav though. I really hope not anyway. That will leave me pretty fuming for a number of reasons.

A week a go I was pretty positive it would be a Chris, Christopher, Ashleigh top three. It's all been blown to hell in 6 days. Well played BB, well played
ValW
14-08-2014
DS have put a new poll on the home page if you haven't see it. Helen's beating Chris into 3rd place, which would be a sickener if that was the real result. That whole "Helen apologises to Ashleigh" scenario is a total set up, the last thing we'll see in the final highlights show. The saddest thing is if Helen DOES beat Chris he'll be magnanimous enough to say she deserved it.
blue_angel
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by ValW:
“DS have put a new poll on the home page if you haven't see it. Helen's beating Chris into 3rd place, which would be a sickener if that was the real result. That whole "Helen apologises to Ashleigh" scenario is a total set up, the last thing we'll see in the final highlights show. The saddest thing is if Helen DOES beat Chris he'll be magnanimous enough to say she deserved it. ”

I'm just hoping that all the people voting for Helen in the polls are skint! Or they spent all their money betting on her to win!

Yeah, we'll have the whole 'Helen apologises' thing tonight, won't we? Which we'll see, and then probably hear about with a discussion with everyone, then we'll have here in the Diary Room explaining her thoughts behind it. This is of course after all her friends have been in the house for the day. *sigh*

I honestly now think Helen is going to get second. Chris will be totally lovely if she gets a higher place than him, and will genuinely mean it. He's got perspective and understands how the show works. I however will be very disappointed, but resigned to the fact it was manipulated that way.

Oh well, lets just give it our best shot and keep on voting!
ruffle
14-08-2014
I have just been on bb face book page there is a lot of Helen or ash to win it is quiet depressing to see I can't believe people are going this way after the kind of house mate she has been I went onto my iPad and voted another six times for Chris I really thought it was just a few people saying this but I am wrong it's getting silly now sorry if I sound down it's very silly of me but I hate unfairness Helen taking over Chris is to much all we have is to keep voting and remember a lot of posters that are on face book are to young to pay for voting Chris,s fans have not deserted him I think a lot of wins ton fans may have moved to Helen I don't no for sure ash and Helen are the two on face book that thy want to win thy are the only two cool group left Chris can still do it
blue_angel
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by ruffle:
“I have just been on bb face book page there is a lot of Helen or ash to win it is quiet depressing to see I can't believe people are going this way after the kind of house mate she has been I went onto my iPad and voted another six times for Chris I really thought it was just a few people saying this but I am wrong it's getting silly now sorry if I sound down it's very silly of me but I hate unfairness Helen taking over Chris is to much all we have is to keep voting and remember a lot of posters that are on face book are to young to pay for voting Chris,s fans have not deserted him I think a lot of wins ton fans may have moved to Helen I don't no for sure ash and Helen are the two on face book that thy want to win thy are the only two cool group left Chris can still do it”

Aww, don't get down ruffle.

People are different, and individuals, and as such, as always going to relate to one housemate more than another. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would vote for Helen to win. I don't take into account what the housemates were like 'outside of the house', I just judge them on their time in there and it baffles me that someone that cannot control her aggression, who singled people out and has taken no responsibility for their actions could warrant a vote. Yes, she's troubled, but while that explains her attitude, it doesn't excuse it. Although 'like attracts like' and I'm sure there are people out there that can relate to that and vote for it. Who knows eh?

Well done for the votes though!!
Skyrah
14-08-2014
I'd tweeted Emma this morning & this is her reply .......

Quote:
“@EmmaWillis Yet again you disappointed me last nite, So what is going to happen to Chris in the bar after Final, was this a threat ?

@********** of course it wasn't.. It was a reference to all the housemates being in the same room again, at the same time. Why so serious..!

@EmmaWillis sorry if I took it the wrong way, but a lot of viewers have, if it was a joke, it was a bad one *shrugs*”

A lot of ppl on social media are angry at Emma's comments last night
blue_angel
14-08-2014
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“I'd tweeted Emma this morning & this is her reply .......



A lot of ppl on social media are angry at Emma's comments last night”

I think if BOTS had been a fair and equal series to all housemates this year, then the "joke" would have been taken as just that. However, I think added to how the show constantly dismisses or insults certain housemates, such as Chris, I think the comment was maybe just a bit much for some people.

The fact that Chris doesn't have that many ex-housemates who like him, should have garnered him a sympathetic angle from the show to level up all the housemates who slag him off all the time on BOTS. The joke seemed to be mocking the fact that we all know they hate him because we've had to endure it for weeks.

I'm guessing Emma probably didn't write it, and I don't think one comment is a problem. It's just when you add it to the growing pile of times they've mocked and belittled him it becomes a little infuriating.
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