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Old 09-07-2014, 11:52
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Sounds like the Tiago Mendes signing is expected to go through in the next few days, with him joining initially as a player but with the intention to groom him as one of Mourinho's assistant coaches.
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Old 09-07-2014, 13:48
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Why did Tiago leave the first time?
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Old 09-07-2014, 14:05
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Why did Tiago leave the first time?
From memory we bought Essien and he was not getting as many games also i think we was offered 10m for him which was a decent amount for him at the time.
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Old 09-07-2014, 17:20
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We've signed Mario Pasalic, a 19 y/o Croatian midfielder:

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest...lic-signs.html
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Old 09-07-2014, 18:03
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We've signed Mario Pasalic, a 19 y/o Croatian midfielder:

http://www.chelseafc.com/news/latest...lic-signs.html
just what we needed, another midfielder who cannot get a game.
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Old 09-07-2014, 18:14
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Not really, Oscar was our only player in the starting line up. However, the England team that whimpered out at the group stage without winning a single match in a poor group had a Liverpool heart. You must be concerned.
Not at all Liverpool have a manager who knows what he is doing, unlike england. He's struggle to get anyone out of the group.
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Old 09-07-2014, 19:13
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just what we needed, another midfielder who cannot get a game.
Could be a good investment at £3m ? That appears to be as important as strengthening the team these days. Loan them out, then sell them on. I don't like it, but it seems to work financially.
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Old 09-07-2014, 20:44
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Not at all Liverpool have a manager who knows what he is doing, unlike england. He's struggle to get anyone out of the group.
And Chelsea don't have a manager who knows what he is doing?
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Old 09-07-2014, 20:47
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just what we needed, another midfielder who cannot get a game.
Another asset with very good resale value to help with FFP and one we can use to forge links with other clubs
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Old 10-07-2014, 16:52
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Rumours are Cech has been made Vice-Captain so seems he will be at the Bridge next season
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Old 10-07-2014, 18:31
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Rumours are Cech has been made Vice-Captain so seems he will be at the Bridge next season
An odd move, where does that leave courtois?

Making people captain means they are undroppable no matter how poorly they play- exhibit a is the England captain gerrard.
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Old 10-07-2014, 18:44
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An odd move, where does that leave courtois?

Making people captain means they are undroppable no matter how poorly they play- exhibit a is the England captain gerrard.
Vice Captains are not undroppable nor does it mean they even start week in week out
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Old 10-07-2014, 20:13
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Several reports say we have completed the signing of Filipe Luis for £20m.
I'm not surprised, he was Jose's first choice as a replacement for Ashley Cole. But I did think we might have negotiated a better deal. If true, we have paid their full asking price.
That would take our spending up to £80m+, will there be any more costly additions ? I wouldn't have thought so, unless there are plans to move a few surplus players. Ryan Bertrand could be on the way out for £8m, but we will need a few of those deals to continue spending.
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Old 10-07-2014, 21:48
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Several reports say we have completed the signing of Filipe Luis for £20m.
I'm not surprised, he was Jose's first choice as a replacement for Ashley Cole. But I did think we might have negotiated a better deal. If true, we have paid their full asking price.
That would take our spending up to £80m+, will there be any more costly additions ? I wouldn't have thought so, unless there are plans to move a few surplus players. Ryan Bertrand could be on the way out for £8m, but we will need a few of those deals to continue spending.
£20m would be a heck of a lot for a left-back that'll be 29 by the time the season starts. Even more so when Azpi has done well in that position, and we've let a perfectly good one leave for nothing this summer. Can't say I'm enthusiastic about the prospect of this signing.
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Old 10-07-2014, 22:13
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£20m for Luis is stupid. I'd rather keep Bertrand at that price.

Still have Marin and Moses to shift. Won't fetch much, but £8-10m is better than loaning them out again.
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Old 10-07-2014, 22:59
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£20m would be a heck of a lot for a left-back that'll be 29 by the time the season starts. Even more so when Azpi has done well in that position, and we've let a perfectly good one leave for nothing this summer. Can't say I'm enthusiastic about the prospect of this signing.
Yes, Luis is one of best around in that position, but £20m is excessive for his age. Our original offer was £12m, so it seems a big leap. But there are mixed reports, some say we are still in talks.
From what I've seen, I like Luis as a signing. He's a top quality attacking LB, the type of player we need in our set up. It would also allow Azpil to return to his best position and then Ivanovic can play in the centre again..if needed. I don't think keeping Ashley was an option, his mind was made up, he wanted a different challenge.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:07
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£20m would be a heck of a lot for a left-back that'll be 29 by the time the season starts. Even more so when Azpi has done well in that position, and we've let a perfectly good one leave for nothing this summer. Can't say I'm enthusiastic about the prospect of this signing.
Dave has done very well there but he is a Right-Back and we need to consider where he wants to play as well. He is a very good player and most clubs would take him and play him where he wants to play. He might have been happy to do it for a certain amount of time but its risky if we keep him there.

Ash is 33 and wanted a longer contract then we was ever going to offer him (both side are right), So think time was right for both parties

We needed a left back and this one is very good. No point spending less for a player not as good just because its a left-back. Its somewhere we needed to look at.

I dont think anyone will get enthusiastic about a full-back but he is the level of the player we should be looking at and we have just gone in done our business and now moving on to the next target, No dilly dallying like we have in the past.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:26
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Dave has done very well there but he is a Right-Back and we need to consider where he wants to play as well. He is a very good player and most clubs would take him and play him where he wants to play. He might have been happy to do it for a certain amount of time but its risky if we keep him there.

Ash is 33 and wanted a longer contract then we was ever going to offer him (both side are right), So think time was right for both parties

We needed a left back and this one is very good. No point spending less for a player not as good just because its a left-back. Its somewhere we needed to look at.

I dont think anyone will get enthusiastic about a full-back but he is the level of the player we should be looking at and we have just gone in done our business and now moving on to the next target, No dilly dallying like we have in the past.
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Ash sign a 1 year deal last year? I'd say it's unlikely to be down to the length of the contract, otherwise he wouldn't have signed a shorter one previously. More likely the main catalyst for him leaving was the lack of game-time or even us simply not offering him another deal, although some other factors may have contributed too.

In any case though I'd rather see us make do with what we've got for another season than spend £20m now on a 29 y/o left-back, even if that means using Bertrand or van Aanholt for some games. In a time where we're looking to be smarter with transfer business that kind of deal doesn't really make a lot of sense.
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Old 11-07-2014, 09:42
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Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Ash sign a 1 year deal last year? I'd say it's unlikely to be down to the length of the contract, otherwise he wouldn't have signed a shorter one previously. More likely the main catalyst for him leaving was the lack of game-time or even us simply not offering him another deal, although some other factors may have contributed too.

In any case though I'd rather see us make do with what we've got for another season than spend £20m on a 29 y/o left-back. In a time where we're looking to be smarter with transfer business that kind of deal doesn't really make a lot of sense.
But he knew this was his last chance at a "multi year contract", Last year he knew he had another season. He has just signed what really is a 3 year deal with Roma and playing Champions League football. Last season he knew offers like that would still be around, If he signed another 1 year deal he would not have found those offers on the table. Plus the return of Jose would have played a factor in him signing

This signing gives us a defence of Dave,Jt,Cahill Luis or Brana,JT,Cahill,Luis or Dave,Brana,Cahill,Luis etc etc etc. We can switch it around alot more. Also give us a chance to manage JT better with his age etc.

I think spending 20m to give us that many options is fine. Its not 20m on one player its 20m spent on giving us 5 or 6 different options in defense.
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Old 11-07-2014, 13:53
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I think Luis is a good buy. I know we've developed a good policy lately of buying up-coming young talents but with Cole leaving, we have lost a lot of experience. And if there's one thing in football Mou never compromises with unproven players, it would be his defence. If he stays injury free and we get 3/4 years out of him then I'll be very satisfied. £20m may seem a bit much given his age, but he's a player who can improve our team right NOW. Luis has proven himself at the highest level and I'll gladly take experience over potential, especially if the position in question is a LB.
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Old 11-07-2014, 14:50
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£20m for Luis is stupid. I'd rather keep Bertrand at that price.

Still have Marin and Moses to shift. Won't fetch much, but £8-10m is better than loaning them out again.
Romeu too.
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Old 12-07-2014, 09:20
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Yet another midfielder?

I hope that we start shipping out the deadwood soon. I could think of well over a dozen players to get rid of.
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Old 12-07-2014, 10:59
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Yet another midfielder?

I hope that we start shipping out the deadwood soon. I could think of well over a dozen players to get rid of.
Not an attacking midfielder though. At the right price he could be a decent signing. If we're going to continue with the 4-2-3-1 then think how strong we'd be with him playing alongside Matic in CM, then you'd have Hazard, Fabregas and Schurrle (on current form) in the AM positions. Mikel and Romeu can both be sold as we wouldn't need either of them then.
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Old 12-07-2014, 14:45
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Not an attacking midfielder though. At the right price he could be a decent signing. If we're going to continue with the 4-2-3-1 then think how strong we'd be with him playing alongside Matic in CM, then you'd have Hazard, Fabregas and Schurrle (on current form) in the AM positions. Mikel and Romeu can both be sold as we wouldn't need either of them then.
Well lets sell romeu, mikel and van ginkel at el before we get sami.
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Old 12-07-2014, 14:55
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Why would we sell van Ginkel?
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