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Striker wise for 2016 the club might consider four strikers considering it looks like Costa and Remy are possibly injury prone.
Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit. |
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.
Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit. Today's press and media have been very interesting. Instead of congratulating Chelsea on taking another step closer to the title, it's all negativity. Concentrating on Chelsea not going all out attack, they call us negative football and yet forget that we have scored the most goals and are on target to get the highest points total ever in the pl. It is like there is only one way to play a game, that tactics and strategy just don't matter. It's ridiculous. They also gloss over the fact that United tried to cheat in the 95th minute too. |
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Yes it amuses me. If we're boring for having scored the joint highest number of goals with City, what does that make the rest of the teams in the Premier League? Like you say there's no right or wrong way to play football (within the laws of the game), as long as it gets you results.
We can't beat the points record though. We got 95 in Mourinho's first season, the most we can get now is 94, which would still be very impressive if we managed to achieve it. |
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.
Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit. As you say, depends on the price. |
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.
Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit. |
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Austin is a goal scorer, at the right price he could do a job. Drogba clearly must now move into coaching / embassador role.
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.
Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit. |
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since his last shot on target (not a goal) , Falcao has cost United 2.95 million in wages.
Today's press and media have been very interesting. Instead of congratulating Chelsea on taking another step closer to the title, it's all negativity. Concentrating on Chelsea not going all out attack, they call us negative football and yet forget that we have scored the most goals and are on target to get the highest points total ever in the pl. It is like there is only one way to play a game, that tactics and strategy just don't matter. It's ridiculous. They also gloss over the fact that United tried to cheat in the 95th minute too. As for the cheating on the 95th minute, I take it you don't agree with Souness's take on the forearm smash on Falcao which was a foul before the goal shortly after ? This is Souness,a great player , albeit a dirty bugger at times. But then he used to play for Liverpool so his comments are probably nonsense anyway.
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Falcao, despite whatever his true age may be, was a fantastic striker I would have loved at the bridge. Unfortunately he is another Torres, never the same after injury.
If dzeko is going cheap, he would fit in well here Costa, dzzeko, remy and bamford next season please, and more rotation, no need to play Costa every game. Make us less predicable. |
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Falcao, despite whatever his true age may be, was a fantastic striker I would have loved at the bridge. Unfortunately he is another Torres, never the same after injury.
If dzeko is going cheap, he would fit in well here Costa, dzzeko, remy and bamford next season please, and more rotation, no need to play Costa every game. Make us less predicable. If we had those 4, Bamford would get no game time at all. In the striker department we are in the best position we have been in years. I personally would like to see us go with Costa, Remy and Solanke / Bamford. If Middlesbrough get promoted i would be fine with Bamford going back there for one more year on loan. |
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Striker wise for 2016 the club might consider four strikers considering it looks like Costa and Remy are possibly injury prone.
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Don't see us promoting two players and Loftus-Cheek is the one Jose has said will have a part to play next season.
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I would look at signing Benteke in the Summer.
Looks back to his best. |
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Bamford has been named Championship player of the year at the Football League awards, good for him!
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Blimey you are really are bitter aren't you?
As for the cheating on the 95th minute, I take it you don't agree with Souness's take on the forearm smash on Falcao which was a foul before the goal shortly after ? This is Souness,a great player , albeit a dirty bugger at times. But then he used to play for Liverpool so his comments are probably nonsense anyway. ![]() Challenges can be bad, of course they can be. Hazard got scythed down in the build up to charlie adams' wonder goal. But that at least was part of the game. Herrera deliberately, when his team were losing in the 95th minute, tried to cheat and con a penalty from the ref. Thats pretty disgusting. I cannot understand what Souness has to do with Herrera cheating? |
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I've seen quite a bit of comment from Man U fans about a foul in the build up to the goal, but no mention that they were fortunate in not having De Gea sent off for handling outside the box. Very selective….
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#2642 |
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As are all fans.
End of the day we won. Some decisions went for us some went against us. The game is in past now and we need to look to the next "title winning" game. Never really been worried about playing Arsenal (and am not really now as losing is not a killer blow) but they seem to something different about them at the moment so it be interesting to see them against us. That's of course if we have Remy or Costa back |
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Some decisions went for us some went against us.
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Exactly, although to listen to some of their fans you'd think we were the only team that benefited from a refereeing call. A more balanced look wouldn't go amiss.
If they had got the penalty some Chelsea fans would have been claiming some conspiracy. When it comes to big games like this a balanced view is the last thing you going to get |
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I've seen quite a bit of comment from Man U fans about a foul in the build up to the goal, but no mention that they were fortunate in not having De Gea sent off for handling outside the box. Very selective….
![]() My point was that Codeblue made no mention of the foul that led upto your goal but had plenty to say about the dive on the 95th minute. Because let's face it, Chelsea are never the sinners but always the victims. I don't think I have met a more biased poster on these footie pages. |
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I think that it has been clear in terms of media and punditry and in print that there has been a lot of negative press for chelsea, when you compare similar incidents.
The Gerrard tackle was a prime example. If Costa or Terry had done the exact same thing, i honestly doubt that they would have got the same favorable press the next day. The knives would have been out. If hopefully chelsea do win the league, it will not be because of Jose making three excellent signings in Matic, Coasta and Fabregas. It will not be because Eden Hazard has been by far the best player in the league and an absolute joy to watch. It will not be because JT has been the very best defender in the entire league. It will not be because of the way our backups in Luis and Zouma have settled very well. It will not be because of the 100% effort that Willian puts in. It will not be the way drogba started the season, or the excellent cover Remy provides It will not be because of the strategy that Jose employs in making sure that they get results from the top 5 clubs. It will not be the way our young keeper Courtois has settled in the PL in his first season. It will not be because we are 10 points clear, have scored the most goals, and conceded the least. Even though the teams around us have spend hundreds of millions... Arsenal (74 million): Alexis Sánchez (Barcelona, £30m), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal, £16m), Calum Chambers (Southampton, £16m), Mathieu Debuchy (Newcastle United, £12m) Liverpool (119 million): Mario Balotelli (AC Milan, £16m), Alberto Moreno (Sevilla, £12m), Adam Lallana (Southampton, £25m), Dejan Lovren (Southampton, £20m), Lazar Markovic (Benfica, £20m), Divock Origi (Lille, £10m), Emre Can (Bayer Leverkusen, £9.75m), Rickie Lambert (Southampton, £4m) City (80 million): Eliaquim Mangala (Porto, £32m), Bony (Swansea, £30m), Fernando (Porto, £12m), Willy Caballero (Malaga, £6m), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal), Frank Lampard (New York City, Loan). United (150 million) : Ángel di María (Real Madrid, £59.7m), Luke Shaw (Southampton, £30m rising to £31m), Ander Herrera (Athletic Bilbao, £28.8m), Marcos Rojo (Sporting Lisbon, £16m), Daley Blind (Ajax £13.8m), Vanja Milinkovic (FK Vojvodina, Undisclosed), Radamel Falcao (Monaco, Loan), Victor Valdes, And we have lost from our main squad: Fernando Torres, David Luiz, Romelu Lukaku, Demba Ba, Ashley Cole, Samuel Eto'o, Schurle and club legend Frank Lampard on top of Juan Mata. (combined transfers over 150 million out of the team!) The reason will be, we park the bus (when in fact most teams play to get a draw against us). That we play negative football (we have scored more goals than anyone) That we play tough football (and yet play oscar, hazard, fabregas and willian every game) And the major factor, the other clubs around us, dispute them all having record numbers of signings, fantastic new managers and massive strengthening and world-record loanees, are "average". |
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Because let's face it, Chelsea are never the sinners but always the victims.
I don't think I have met a more biased poster on these footie pages. The same plaudits and punishments for chelsea players and managers (and fans) from the FA and media, exactly like the other teams. |
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#2648 |
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All i want is a level playing field, thats all.
The same plaudits and punishments for chelsea players and managers (and fans) from the FA and media, exactly like the other teams. Seriously, why do you give a toss what the media say about your club? |
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hazard,what a player. top 5 in world? gotta be for me. made right decision choosing chelsea.
dissapointed in herreras dive at the end, naughty boy |
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You keep banging this drum, but I don't understand why it matters.
Seriously, why do you give a toss what the media say about your club? It would be great for the media to acknowledge that Chelsea deserve to win the PL title (every team who wins it deserves it) and have done so with great tactics and skill and flair too. Yesterday, a well respected member of the forum, Pee, said in response to the statement "Winning the pl is a massive achievement." Quote:
No it isn't.
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