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Old 19-04-2015, 08:05
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Striker wise for 2016 the club might consider four strikers considering it looks like Costa and Remy are possibly injury prone.
If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.

Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit.
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Old 19-04-2015, 09:17
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.

Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit.
since his last shot on target (not a goal) , Falcao has cost United 2.95 million in wages.

Today's press and media have been very interesting. Instead of congratulating Chelsea on taking another step closer to the title, it's all negativity.

Concentrating on Chelsea not going all out attack, they call us negative football and yet forget that we have scored the most goals and are on target to get the highest points total ever in the pl.

It is like there is only one way to play a game, that tactics and strategy just don't matter. It's ridiculous.

They also gloss over the fact that United tried to cheat in the 95th minute too.
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Old 19-04-2015, 09:27
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Yes it amuses me. If we're boring for having scored the joint highest number of goals with City, what does that make the rest of the teams in the Premier League? Like you say there's no right or wrong way to play football (within the laws of the game), as long as it gets you results.

We can't beat the points record though. We got 95 in Mourinho's first season, the most we can get now is 94, which would still be very impressive if we managed to achieve it.
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Old 19-04-2015, 10:38
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.

Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit.
Not sure about Austin. Look at what a disaster Lambert has been at Liverpool. He used to be a goal scorer like Austin.
As you say, depends on the price.
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Old 19-04-2015, 11:09
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.

Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit.
Think Austin is a very good player but I think he is at his level at the moment. You put him in a top top team and he will vanish.
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Old 19-04-2015, 11:52
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Austin is a goal scorer, at the right price he could do a job. Drogba clearly must now move into coaching / embassador role.
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Old 19-04-2015, 12:05
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If we were looking to bring someone else in rather than working with what we've got (i.e. the likes of Bamford) then I wouldn't be against signing Charlie Austin at the right price.

Watching Falcao again the other day reminded me how glad I am that we signed Costa and not him. Would have been another Torres for us, Man U must be relieved they only took him on loan even if his wages have still cost them a fair old bit.
Next year: Costa, Remy, Bamford and ? Drogba will probably be retained in a coaching and / or ambassadorial role. My guess is that JM and the board will go for a big, strong striker in the mould of a Benteke (although not Benteke). Options. Let's see.. Totally agree about Falcao. A few years ago, lethal, now?.. practically useless.
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Old 19-04-2015, 12:09
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since his last shot on target (not a goal) , Falcao has cost United 2.95 million in wages.

Today's press and media have been very interesting. Instead of congratulating Chelsea on taking another step closer to the title, it's all negativity.

Concentrating on Chelsea not going all out attack, they call us negative football and yet forget that we have scored the most goals and are on target to get the highest points total ever in the pl.

It is like there is only one way to play a game, that tactics and strategy just don't matter. It's ridiculous.

They also gloss over the fact that United tried to cheat in the 95th minute too.
Blimey you are really are bitter aren't you?

As for the cheating on the 95th minute, I take it you don't agree with Souness's take on the forearm smash on Falcao which was a foul before the goal shortly after ?

This is Souness,a great player , albeit a dirty bugger at times.

But then he used to play for Liverpool so his comments are probably nonsense anyway.
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Old 19-04-2015, 12:10
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Falcao, despite whatever his true age may be, was a fantastic striker I would have loved at the bridge. Unfortunately he is another Torres, never the same after injury.

If dzeko is going cheap, he would fit in well here
Costa, dzzeko, remy and bamford next season please, and more rotation, no need to play Costa every game. Make us less predicable.
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Old 19-04-2015, 19:37
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Falcao, despite whatever his true age may be, was a fantastic striker I would have loved at the bridge. Unfortunately he is another Torres, never the same after injury.

If dzeko is going cheap, he would fit in well here
Costa, dzzeko, remy and bamford next season please, and more rotation, no need to play Costa every game. Make us less predicable.
There is no point having 4 strikers. If we played with 2 upfront then maybe, but we don't so there isn't much point really.

If we had those 4, Bamford would get no game time at all.

In the striker department we are in the best position we have been in years. I personally would like to see us go with Costa, Remy and Solanke / Bamford. If Middlesbrough get promoted i would be fine with Bamford going back there for one more year on loan.
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Old 19-04-2015, 19:42
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Striker wise for 2016 the club might consider four strikers considering it looks like Costa and Remy are possibly injury prone.
I don't think Remy is injury prone, i think he is just unlucky. In previous seasons he has had no trouble with injuries. Most players have a season in their career where they pick up a bunch of injuries.
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Old 19-04-2015, 19:53
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Don't see us promoting two players and Loftus-Cheek is the one Jose has said will have a part to play next season.
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Old 19-04-2015, 21:02
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I would look at signing Benteke in the Summer.
Looks back to his best.
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Old 19-04-2015, 23:05
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Bamford has been named Championship player of the year at the Football League awards, good for him!
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Old 20-04-2015, 08:53
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Blimey you are really are bitter aren't you?

As for the cheating on the 95th minute, I take it you don't agree with Souness's take on the forearm smash on Falcao which was a foul before the goal shortly after ?

This is Souness,a great player , albeit a dirty bugger at times.

But then he used to play for Liverpool so his comments are probably nonsense anyway.
Its not bitter, its just stating the facts.

Challenges can be bad, of course they can be. Hazard got scythed down in the build up to charlie adams' wonder goal. But that at least was part of the game.

Herrera deliberately, when his team were losing in the 95th minute, tried to cheat and con a penalty from the ref. Thats pretty disgusting.

I cannot understand what Souness has to do with Herrera cheating?
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Old 20-04-2015, 09:34
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I've seen quite a bit of comment from Man U fans about a foul in the build up to the goal, but no mention that they were fortunate in not having De Gea sent off for handling outside the box. Very selective….
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Old 20-04-2015, 09:50
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As are all fans.

End of the day we won.

Some decisions went for us some went against us.

The game is in past now and we need to look to the next "title winning" game.

Never really been worried about playing Arsenal (and am not really now as losing is not a killer blow) but they seem to something different about them at the moment so it be interesting to see them against us. That's of course if we have Remy or Costa back
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Old 20-04-2015, 09:56
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Some decisions went for us some went against us.
Exactly, although to listen to some of their fans you'd think we were the only team that benefited from a refereeing call. A more balanced look wouldn't go amiss.
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Old 20-04-2015, 10:40
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Exactly, although to listen to some of their fans you'd think we were the only team that benefited from a refereeing call. A more balanced look wouldn't go amiss.
Would Chelsea fans (or any other fans) be any different?

If they had got the penalty some Chelsea fans would have been claiming some conspiracy.

When it comes to big games like this a balanced view is the last thing you going to get
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Old 20-04-2015, 11:13
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I've seen quite a bit of comment from Man U fans about a foul in the build up to the goal, but no mention that they were fortunate in not having De Gea sent off for handling outside the box. Very selective….
Well actually ex ref Mark Halsey said it wasn't a sending off offence on one of the online footie pages I saw today.

My point was that Codeblue made no mention of the foul that led upto your goal but had plenty to say about the dive on the 95th minute.

Because let's face it, Chelsea are never the sinners but always the victims.

I don't think I have met a more biased poster on these footie pages.
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Old 20-04-2015, 11:15
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I think that it has been clear in terms of media and punditry and in print that there has been a lot of negative press for chelsea, when you compare similar incidents.

The Gerrard tackle was a prime example. If Costa or Terry had done the exact same thing, i honestly doubt that they would have got the same favorable press the next day. The knives would have been out.

If hopefully chelsea do win the league, it will not be because of Jose making three excellent signings in Matic, Coasta and Fabregas.

It will not be because Eden Hazard has been by far the best player in the league and an absolute joy to watch.

It will not be because JT has been the very best defender in the entire league.

It will not be because of the way our backups in Luis and Zouma have settled very well.

It will not be because of the 100% effort that Willian puts in.

It will not be the way drogba started the season, or the excellent cover Remy provides

It will not be because of the strategy that Jose employs in making sure that they get results from the top 5 clubs.

It will not be the way our young keeper Courtois has settled in the PL in his first season.

It will not be because we are 10 points clear, have scored the most goals, and conceded the least.

Even though the teams around us have spend hundreds of millions...

Arsenal (74 million): Alexis Sánchez (Barcelona, £30m), Danny Welbeck (Arsenal, £16m), Calum Chambers (Southampton, £16m), Mathieu Debuchy (Newcastle United, £12m)

Liverpool (119 million): Mario Balotelli (AC Milan, £16m), Alberto Moreno (Sevilla, £12m), Adam Lallana (Southampton, £25m), Dejan Lovren (Southampton, £20m), Lazar Markovic (Benfica, £20m), Divock Origi (Lille, £10m), Emre Can (Bayer Leverkusen, £9.75m), Rickie Lambert (Southampton, £4m)

City (80 million): Eliaquim Mangala (Porto, £32m), Bony (Swansea, £30m), Fernando (Porto, £12m), Willy Caballero (Malaga, £6m), Bacary Sagna (Arsenal), Frank Lampard (New York City, Loan).

United (150 million) : Ángel di María (Real Madrid, £59.7m), Luke Shaw (Southampton, £30m rising to £31m), Ander Herrera (Athletic Bilbao, £28.8m), Marcos Rojo (Sporting Lisbon, £16m), Daley Blind (Ajax £13.8m), Vanja Milinkovic (FK Vojvodina, Undisclosed), Radamel Falcao (Monaco, Loan), Victor Valdes,

And we have lost from our main squad: Fernando Torres, David Luiz, Romelu Lukaku, Demba Ba, Ashley Cole, Samuel Eto'o, Schurle and club legend Frank Lampard on top of Juan Mata. (combined transfers over 150 million out of the team!)


The reason will be, we park the bus (when in fact most teams play to get a draw against us).
That we play negative football (we have scored more goals than anyone)
That we play tough football (and yet play oscar, hazard, fabregas and willian every game)

And the major factor, the other clubs around us, dispute them all having record numbers of signings, fantastic new managers and massive strengthening and world-record loanees, are "average".
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Old 20-04-2015, 11:19
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Because let's face it, Chelsea are never the sinners but always the victims.

I don't think I have met a more biased poster on these footie pages.
All i want is a level playing field, thats all.

The same plaudits and punishments for chelsea players and managers (and fans) from the FA and media, exactly like the other teams.
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Old 20-04-2015, 11:25
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All i want is a level playing field, thats all.

The same plaudits and punishments for chelsea players and managers (and fans) from the FA and media, exactly like the other teams.
You keep banging this drum, but I don't understand why it matters.

Seriously, why do you give a toss what the media say about your club?
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Old 20-04-2015, 11:38
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hazard,what a player. top 5 in world? gotta be for me. made right decision choosing chelsea.

dissapointed in herreras dive at the end, naughty boy
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Old 20-04-2015, 11:47
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You keep banging this drum, but I don't understand why it matters.

Seriously, why do you give a toss what the media say about your club?
For a large part of society, it unfortunately dances to the agenda that the media set.

It would be great for the media to acknowledge that Chelsea deserve to win the PL title (every team who wins it deserves it) and have done so with great tactics and skill and flair too.

Yesterday, a well respected member of the forum, Pee, said in response to the statement "Winning the pl is a massive achievement."

The negative UK media create this agenda.
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