Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“I'm surprised that we haven't got either Brown or Solanke on the bench.”
“I'm surprised that we haven't got either Brown or Solanke on the bench.”
Won't they be involved in tomorrow's game?
Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5)
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Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Rather be dull then totally irrelevant for the last god knows how many years and our biggest achievement is getting rid of a rubbish statue of Michael Jackson”
“Rather be dull then totally irrelevant for the last god knows how many years and our biggest achievement is getting rid of a rubbish statue of Michael Jackson”
We always have the Boat Race.
Originally Posted by St. Anthony:
“When Chelsea win anything, leagues, cups, etc, just always feels a bit dull.”
“When Chelsea win anything, leagues, cups, etc, just always feels a bit dull.”
Gosh, our journey to get to winning the champions league was so very dull wasn't it.?
The come back against Napoli, awful match.
The games against barca, Terry's sending off and the Ramires chip, and the Torres goal from the halfway line. Nothing memorable there.
And the game against barren in their own back yard, where drogba cemented his legendary status with his last kick for the blues.
I'd rather be watching hull.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Gosh, our journey to get to winning the champions league was so very dull wasn't it.?
The come back against Napoli, awful match.
The games against barca, Terry's sending off and the Ramires chip, and the Torres goal from the halfway line. Nothing memorable there.
And the game against barren in their own back yard, where drogba cemented his legendary status with his last kick for the blues.
I'd rather be watching hull.”
“Gosh, our journey to get to winning the champions league was so very dull wasn't it.?
The come back against Napoli, awful match.
The games against barca, Terry's sending off and the Ramires chip, and the Torres goal from the halfway line. Nothing memorable there.
And the game against barren in their own back yard, where drogba cemented his legendary status with his last kick for the blues.
I'd rather be watching hull.”
Come on codeblue. Everyone knows we only won the Champions League by parking the bus and playing anti-football (insert other cliches….)
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Just think, Dixons fav manager Rafa thought JT was finished........”
“Just think, Dixons fav manager Rafa thought JT was finished........”
Anytime that mediocre manager thinks something is always entertaining
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Just think, Dixons fav manager Rafa thought JT was finished........”
“Just think, Dixons fav manager Rafa thought JT was finished........”
Imagine where we'd be now if Rafa was still at the club. Not about to be crowned PL champions I'm sure….
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Imagine where we'd be now if Rafa was still at the club. Not about to be crowned PL champions I'm sure….”
“Imagine where we'd be now if Rafa was still at the club. Not about to be crowned PL champions I'm sure….”
Probably trying to get another Europa League on his CV.
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Imagine where we'd be now if Rafa was still at the club. Not about to be crowned PL champions I'm sure….”
“Imagine where we'd be now if Rafa was still at the club. Not about to be crowned PL champions I'm sure….”
Am sure we would be "entertaining" and have people say nice stuff about us on talk-shite I am sure which is more important
Have to say Jose was quite harsh and mean after the game when saying not winning the title for 10 years was boring. Only one team can win the title and its far from easy. If you at least challenge for the title that can provide lots of entertainment and am sure they have done that over the last few years
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Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Won't they be involved in tomorrow's game?”
“Won't they be involved in tomorrow's game?”
Oh yes, I'd forgotten about that. To be honest, I haven't caught any of their games live, but I do read the reports and watch any highlights I can find. I've read rave reports about a few of the youngsters. Solanke, Brown, Abraham, Colkett and the very young left back Dasilva who's only 16.
We've certainly got some young talent at the club, I just hope a few of them can make the breakthrough. It looks like Loftus-Cheek is the front runner in Jose's mind, again I've heard some great reports..what do you make of him ?
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Oh yes, I'd forgotten about that. To be honest, I haven't caught any of their games live, but I do read the reports and watch any highlights I can find. I've read rave reports about a few of the youngsters. Solanke, Brown, Abraham, Colkett and the very young left back Dasilva who's only 16.
We've certainly got some young talent at the club, I just hope a few of them can make the breakthrough. It looks like Loftus-Cheek is the front runner in Jose's mind, again I've heard some great reports..what do you make of him ?”
“Oh yes, I'd forgotten about that. To be honest, I haven't caught any of their games live, but I do read the reports and watch any highlights I can find. I've read rave reports about a few of the youngsters. Solanke, Brown, Abraham, Colkett and the very young left back Dasilva who's only 16.
We've certainly got some young talent at the club, I just hope a few of them can make the breakthrough. It looks like Loftus-Cheek is the front runner in Jose's mind, again I've heard some great reports..what do you make of him ?”
Big fan of Loftus-Cheek.
I think the game is on one of the ITV channels. Defo worth a watch. Wish more of the games was on tv. BBC and ITV should look into it. Not saying they should spend big money but am sure some of the bigger clubs would go for it.
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Hazard named PFA player of the year, very much deserved.”
“Hazard named PFA player of the year, very much deserved.”
Yes Eden Hazard has been the best player in the Premiership and by quite a margin.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
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I think the game is on one of the ITV channels.”
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I think the game is on one of the ITV channels.”
Yep it's on ITV4 (kick-off 7.45pm).
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Hazard named PFA player of the year, very much deserved.”
“Hazard named PFA player of the year, very much deserved.”
Yes, we'll deserved. He's been fantastic.
Slightly ironic that he should get the award after probably his quietest game of the season though.
I'm still baffled as to why we signed Cuadrado for £26/27m.
He's 27 years old next month, for a footballer that's generally an age when what you see is what you're going to get. He had a couple of good games in the World Cup, but his club form was nothing fantastic.
Out on loan to Lecce he scored 3 goals in 33 appearances. Returning to Fiorentina, he scored 5 goals in 40 appearances in 2012/2013. Then came his best season 2013/2014 when he scored 15 in 43 appearances..that's good, but Serie A Is very different to the PL.
I can't see him displacing Willian, Oscar or even Ramires and it's a lot of money to pay for another bench warmer.
He's 27 years old next month, for a footballer that's generally an age when what you see is what you're going to get. He had a couple of good games in the World Cup, but his club form was nothing fantastic.
Out on loan to Lecce he scored 3 goals in 33 appearances. Returning to Fiorentina, he scored 5 goals in 40 appearances in 2012/2013. Then came his best season 2013/2014 when he scored 15 in 43 appearances..that's good, but Serie A Is very different to the PL.
I can't see him displacing Willian, Oscar or even Ramires and it's a lot of money to pay for another bench warmer.
I think he needs to start on Wednesday if Oscar is out. At that price we should probably look to start him in at least 3 of our remaining matches to see what he can bring to the team. Otherwise he'll definitely go the same way as Schurrle and Salah....but more expensive and with less sell-on value.
Originally Posted by redvers36:
“Yes Eden Hazard has been the best player in the Premiership and by quite a margin.”
“Yes Eden Hazard has been the best player in the Premiership and by quite a margin.”
And yet as some write in this forum, he is "far from world class".
I have absolutely no doubt, that if the PFa team was made up of the best players from all the other clubs combined, chelsea would beat them.
And yet we do not deserve to win the league apparently.
This year has been a great year for hazard, winning the pfa and hopefully about to win the league (after also winning the cup). It will help gel all of our players together.
The season has only had one major problem for me, selling schurrle for cudrado.
He is far from World Class.
World Class has been so diluted nowadays
There are only two "world class" players in the world today and everyone even those who don't follow football know who there are.
He has the potential to be but he is nowhere near that level at the moment.
Fantastic and amazing player but lets not get carried away
World Class has been so diluted nowadays
There are only two "world class" players in the world today and everyone even those who don't follow football know who there are.
He has the potential to be but he is nowhere near that level at the moment.
Fantastic and amazing player but lets not get carried away
Th key is in the wording.
Is he world class? No, Is he "far from world class"? No.
I just hope he keeps improving. Isnt he the most fouled player in the PL?
Is he world class? No, Is he "far from world class"? No.
I just hope he keeps improving. Isnt he the most fouled player in the PL?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“And yet as some write in this forum, he is "far from world class".
I have absolutely no doubt, that if the PFa team was made up of the best players from all the other clubs combined, chelsea would beat them.
And yet we do not deserve to win the league apparently.
This year has been a great year for hazard, winning the pfa and hopefully about to win the league (after also winning the cup). It will help gel all of our players together.
The season has only had one major problem for me, selling schurrle for cudrado.”
“And yet as some write in this forum, he is "far from world class".
I have absolutely no doubt, that if the PFa team was made up of the best players from all the other clubs combined, chelsea would beat them.
And yet we do not deserve to win the league apparently.
This year has been a great year for hazard, winning the pfa and hopefully about to win the league (after also winning the cup). It will help gel all of our players together.
The season has only had one major problem for me, selling schurrle for cudrado.”
Where has anyone said you don't deserve to win the league?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Th key is in the wording.
Is he world class? No, Is he "far from world class"? No.
I just hope he keeps improving. Isnt he the most fouled player in the PL?”
“Th key is in the wording.
Is he world class? No, Is he "far from world class"? No.
I just hope he keeps improving. Isnt he the most fouled player in the PL?”
He is still far from Messi and Ronaldo's level.
Nearer then many players are (or will ever be) but still has a massive amount of work to do.
"Most fouled player" is just some pointless tag given to him by the media. It means nothing in the grand scheme of things
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“He is still far from Messi and Ronaldo's level.”
“He is still far from Messi and Ronaldo's level.”
Leaving Hazard to one side, a player doesn't have to quite be at Messi or Ronaldo's level to be "World Class". If that was the case those two would pretty much be regarded as the only two World Class players that have ever played the game. They're almost freaks. What about goalkeepers, defenders, central midfielders etc? Can none of these be considered World Class in their respective positions then?
For the record I think World Class is an overused expression too, but you're looking at it far too narrowly if you believe those two are the only players it applies to. Bayern don't have any World Class players then, for example?
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Leaving Hazard to one side, a player doesn't have to quite be at Messi or Ronaldo's level to be "World Class". If that was the case those two would pretty much be regarded as the only two World Class players that have ever played the game. They're almost freaks. What about goalkeepers, defenders, central midfielders etc? Can none of these be considered World Class in their respective positions then?
For the record I think World Class is an overused expression too, but you're looking at it far too narrowly if you believe those two are the only players it applies to. Bayern don't have any World Class players then, for example?”
“Leaving Hazard to one side, a player doesn't have to quite be at Messi or Ronaldo's level to be "World Class". If that was the case those two would pretty much be regarded as the only two World Class players that have ever played the game. They're almost freaks. What about goalkeepers, defenders, central midfielders etc? Can none of these be considered World Class in their respective positions then?
For the record I think World Class is an overused expression too, but you're looking at it far too narrowly if you believe those two are the only players it applies to. Bayern don't have any World Class players then, for example?”
As long as they are around the bench mark for World Class is going to be very high. Of course when those two players no longer play there will be a different bench mark for "World Class" as it was before they got to where they are now.
Of course we can have world class players in other positions but I just don't see anyone around at the moment who are miles ahead of everyone else in that position.
Messi and Ronaldo will start to fade sooner or later. In 5 years time players like Hazzard will be the benchmark for being World Class, Today its Messi and Ronaldo.
In the past it was Pele and Maradonna. World Class has to be a very small exclusive club, A small handful of players who on a different level then anyone else.
We have seen "world class" keepers/defenders/midfielders etc in the past and hopefully will do again
Bayern have some fantastic amazing players who are among the best players in the world but for me World Class has to a totally different level.
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