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Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5)
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NinjyBear
10-05-2015
Jose's said he will play Ake and Izzy Brown against West Brom. Haven't really seen or heard much about Brown, but I expected Ake to have played a bit more by now.
Jokanovic
10-05-2015
Originally Posted by NinjyBear:
“Jose's said he will play Ake and Izzy Brown against West Brom. Haven't really seen or heard much about Brown, but I expected Ake to have played a bit more by now.”

Brown will get some stick from WBA fans
Jokanovic
10-05-2015
Originally Posted by NorthernNinny:
“I can't see Jose not wanting a result against Sunderland after they pretty much put a nail in the coffin of your title hopes last season.”

They may well be safe by then. If not he would play a strong team out of fairness.
Jokanovic
10-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Yes, because Chelsea don't have a minority of moronic fans, do they?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2yjSnzOjek”

Christ, you do love trolling Code around this board Jim don't you.
Jokanovic
10-05-2015
Stevie had showered and changed by the time of his BBC interview.
He was a bit more considered
Jim De Ville
10-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Christ, you do love trolling Code around this board Jim don't you.”

'Trolling'?

Ha ha ha, if you say so.

If you see nothing wrong with what she does, that's up to you. I'd say that accusing Liverpool fans of lacking class because of a few doughnuts is 'trolling'.
Dixon
10-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“'Trolling'?

Ha ha ha, if you say so.

If you see nothing wrong with what she does, that's up to you. I'd say that accusing Liverpool fans of lacking class because of a few doughnuts is 'trolling'.”

I've been called a troll and a moron for simply giving my opinion on negative football and the below par quality of the top teams.
The_don1
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“I've been called a troll and a moron for simply giving my opinion on negative football and the below par quality of the top teams.”

That's mainly due to the fact there is no such thing as negative football and it being something made up by the media
codeblue
11-05-2015
There is no such thing as negative football, the media should use it by its proper names, "strategy" or "tactics".

Thankfully there are some pundits just cottoning on that in order to win the league strategy and tactics do have to play a part - especially when you are playing your rivals or your top striker is injured and you have to play a 38 yr old forward.

Chelsea played wonderful football right up to the point where we found out that we should win the league. In the past couple of years we have been losing games we should have won, this season we have been turning them into wins/ draws. This has allowed us to get 13 points clear, score the most goals, win the most games with 3 to go.

It is up to the opposition to catch up, but we must press on.

Jose is very hit and miss in the transfer market. Cudrado looks absolutely awful for the price paid, but Costa and Cesc have won us the league.

Its going to be an exciting summer.

Milkel has to go. Everything that liverpool did yesterday was centered around a Mikel mistake (including their goal). This season when he has come on to close out the game, inevitably the opposition have scored. We need to swap him for a pogba like player.
roddydogs
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“There is no such thing as negative football, the media should use it by its proper names, "strategy" or "tactics".

Thankfully there are some pundits just cottoning on that in order to win the league strategy and tactics do have to play a part - especially when you are playing your rivals or your top striker is injured and you have to play a 38 yr old forward.

Chelsea played wonderful football right up to the point where we found out that we should win the league. In the past couple of years we have been losing games we should have won, this season we have been turning them into wins/ draws. This has allowed us to get 13 points clear, score the most goals, win the most games with 3 to go.

It is up to the opposition to catch up, but we must press on.

Jose is very hit and miss in the transfer market. Cudrado looks absolutely awful for the price paid, but Costa and Cesc have won us the league.

Its going to be an exciting summer.

Milkel has to go. Everything that liverpool did yesterday was centered around a Mikel mistake (including their goal). This season when he has come on to close out the game, inevitably the opposition have scored. We need to swap him for a pogba like player.”

Yes but the daft foul by Brana (booked) gave the unecessary FK in the first place.
& what was Cesc thinking , should have been red straight away.
RichmondBlue
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by LONERIDER37:
“The thing is it is not a joke to Stevie, that slip I am sure prob still haunts him, he will know the importance of that and to have it sung for 70 mins and the "silly" cards showed of the slip hazzard (have you/they forgotten JT's pen miss?) I am sure made any end result of the applause irrelevant to him. What one can pass off as a joke isn't to others. I mean what if SG comes out and says his comment about "good of them to turn up today" was just a joke? Not a dig, just a joke? You wouldn't believe it I'm sure.

End result he doesn't have to lie about it, if he wasn't bothered by the Chelsea fans applause he can say it. JT got a great reception at Anfield in the Allstars game recently, I'm sure he'll get a fine reception when that day comes ”

Fair enough, perhaps on reflection I was a bit hasty with my original comment..same as Stevie.
But given there's no love lost between our respective fans, I thought we were as fair as could be expected when he left the pitch. Opposing fans will continue to have a go and take the piss out of Terry until he hangs up his boots, that's to be expected. Hopefully, those same fans will be able to forgive and forget when he finally waves goodbye.
It's no big deal for us of course, but I think all fair minded fans like to see a genuine PL legend (even from the "enemy") given a good send-off. I thought we did ok yesterday, even if it needed a bit of prompting from Jose to get a few sections on their feet.
codeblue
11-05-2015
player gets a standing ovation, then slams the fans in an interview.

Classless.

It was an opportunity to put rivalries to bed, for the last time, and now we are all here saying what a fool he was instead of acknowledging him.
Orchideam
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“player gets a standing ovation, then slams the fans in an interview.

Classless.

It was an opportunity to put rivalries to bed, for the last time, and now we are all here saying what a fool he was instead of acknowledging him.”

For goodness sake, stop being so daft!
codeblue
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“For goodness sake, stop being so daft!”

The chelsea fans played their part and provided a standing ovation. Gerrard was classless to the end.
NorthernNinny
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“The chelsea fans played their part and provided a standing ovation. Gerrard was classless to the end.”

So he ignores the abuse that he got during the game then when they also played their part ?

Sky also inadvertently caught a Chelsea fan giving it the old hand gesture too amongst clapping Chelsea fans.

I take it he was a QPR fan incognito then ?
NinjyBear
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“player gets a standing ovation, then slams the fans in an interview.

Classless.

It was an opportunity to put rivalries to bed, for the last time, and now we are all here saying what a fool he was instead of acknowledging him.”

I'm not. i don't have any problem with what he said.
LONERIDER37
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Fair enough, perhaps on reflection I was a bit hasty with my original comment..same as Stevie.
But given there's no love lost between our respective fans, I thought we were as fair as could be expected when he left the pitch. Opposing fans will continue to have a go and take the piss out of Terry until he hangs up his boots, that's to be expected. Hopefully, those same fans will be able to forgive and forget when he finally waves goodbye.
It's no big deal for us of course, but I think all fair minded fans like to see a genuine PL legend (even from the "enemy") given a good send-off. I thought we did ok yesterday, even if it needed a bit of prompting from Jose to get a few sections on their feet. ”

Very fair minded of you
Most were "when he left the pitch", no arguments there but that, in my mind anyhow , doesn't excuse the stick they'd given him all game, and previously. Therefore I think he gave an honest appraisal of it to the reporter, perhaps the dig a bit...... .. but he'd just finished a match that he'd been subbed in, given dogs abuse by Chelsea fans who in my opinion should have been far too happy celebrating the PL win rather than baiting Gerrard all game, so I don't think he needed to give them any special praise.
As for JT, I'm not a big fan obv ha, but I'd like to think, as you say, when he hangs his boots up for good he will be given decent receptions, however I'd find it pointless abusing him for 78 mins then giving him a standing ovation, I'd much rather not abuse him and quietly applaud him on his way, less hypocritical.
Orchideam
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by LONERIDER37:
“Very fair minded of you
Most were "when he left the pitch", no arguments there but that, in my mind anyhow , doesn't excuse the stick they'd given him all game, and previously. Therefore I think he gave an honest appraisal of it to the reporter, perhaps the dig a bit...... .. but he'd just finished a match that he'd been subbed in, given dogs abuse by Chelsea fans who in my opinion should have been far too happy celebrating the PL win rather than baiting Gerrard all game, so I don't think he needed to give them any special praise.
As for JT, I'm not a big fan obv ha, but I'd like to think, as you say, when he hangs his boots up for good he will be given decent receptions, however I'd find it pointless abusing him for 78 mins then giving him a standing ovation, I'd much rather not abuse him and quietly applaud him on his way, less hypocritical. ”

Agree with that.

When John Terry came to Anfield about 6 weeks ago, by invite from Gerrard for a charity match, he was applauded onto, and off the pitch. Even enjoyed a bit of banter with the Kop end and really enjoyed himself, as did Drogba and Torres. The crowd was all LFC fans, and they got applause from all the players when they left, every last one of them with their families on the pitch. Now, THAT is how you send off a top PL player. Give them to Anfield, we know how to do it right, and we're not 2 faced.
Fizzee Rascal
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“Agree with that.

When John Terry came to Anfield about 6 weeks ago, by invite from Gerrard for a charity match, he was applauded onto, and off the pitch. Even enjoyed a bit of banter with the Kop end and really enjoyed himself, as did Drogba and Torres. The crowd was all LFC fans, and they got applause from all the players when they left, every last one of them with their families on the pitch. Now, THAT is how you send off a top PL player. Give them to Anfield, we know how to do it right, and we're not 2 faced.”

http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-co...A-10120981.jpg
alancracker
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“player gets a standing ovation, then slams the fans in an interview.

Classless.

.”

Rival team gives champions guard of honour as they come onto the pitch - which they did not have to = classy.

Fans of said champions spend the majority of their first home match after winning the league not chanting about their success but doing a chant and waving cards mocking the captain of the team who had just given them a guard of honour = classless.

And for the record he did not slam them - he thanked them but said that they have spent years slaughtering him and then applauded him for 2 seconds which was factually exactly what happened.
Orchideam
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by Fizzee Rascal:
“http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-co...A-10120981.jpg”

I think you will find that photo was taken in January 2011 when Torres left for Chelsea, the dated shirts are a giveaway too. All the more reason to appreciate the welcome back to Anfield he received in March this year. He was over the moon that the Kop once again sang HIS song - class!
RichmondBlue
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by Orchideam:
“Agree with that.

When John Terry came to Anfield about 6 weeks ago, by invite from Gerrard for a charity match, he was applauded onto, and off the pitch. Even enjoyed a bit of banter with the Kop end and really enjoyed himself, as did Drogba and Torres. The crowd was all LFC fans, and they got applause from all the players when they left, every last one of them with their families on the pitch. Now, THAT is how you send off a top PL player. Give them to Anfield, we know how to do it right, and we're not 2 faced.”

Yes, but that was a charity game. Next time John Terry is at Anfield it will be "business as usual" and I don't suppose he'll be expecting anything different. Most of the stuff yesterday was meant to be humorous, but I can understand Gerrard not seeing the funny side of it. But that's the price you pay for being such an important and iconic figure for your club, opposition fans are going to get at you in any way they can.
I'm sure the majority of Livepool fans will applaud Terry off the field when he appears for the last time, same as the majority of Chelsea fans did for Steven Gerrard yesterday. There will always be a few classless idiots who make obscene gestures and chants, but they are a tiny minority.

Anyway, Gerrard was a fantastic player for Liverpool. I don't think he would have been such a good "fit" for Chelsea even if we had been successful in persuading him to sign. Lampard and Gerrard looks good on paper, but they wouldn't have worked together in practice. The likes of Ballack and Essien gave us a better balance. But even in decline at Liverpool Gerrard remained an important player, they will be big boots to fill.
Dixon
11-05-2015
Lets face it, Chelsea and Liverpool just seem to rub each other up the wrong way.

Back to the game.
The more I see of Zouma the more I think he won't be good enough at the top level.
His movement is just too lumbering. I can see him being found out by nippy, agile fowards.

The big plus was Loftus!
Excellent movement, pace and composure and a good feet.
Very early days, but at last I think we've finally produced another quality player and Jose has said he has a future at Chelsea.
I think him and Matic could be a great pairing!
RichmondBlue
11-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Lets face it, Chelsea and Liverpool just seem to rub each other up the wrong way.

Back to the game.
The more I see of Zouma the more I think he won't be good enough at the top level.
His movement is just too lumbering. I can see him being found out by nippy, agile fowards.

The big plus was Loftus!
Excellent movement, pace and composure and a good feet.
Very early days, but at last I think we've finally produced another quality player and Jose has said he has a future at Chelsea.
I think him and Matic could be a great pairing!”

I think Zouma will be ok. I know what you mean but he's a lot quicker than you think. You often get that look with youngsters who have sprouted up very quickly. When he matures into Marcel Dessailly 2 we'll all be happy.
codeblue
11-05-2015
I can't see it Dixon.

Zouma has been fantastic when needed this season.

He us still ridiculously Young and will keep on improving. He has been a real find.
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