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Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5)
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Jokanovic
25-05-2015
Just think Dixie, it's only 12 months or so ago your were raving about Brendan and wanting him to be our manager. How things change in football eh
Dixon
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Just think Dixie, it's only 12 months or so ago your were raving about Brendan and wanting him to be our manager. How things change in football eh ”

I don't remrmber ever saying such ridiculous nonsense!!!!!


RichmondBlue
25-05-2015
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“As we all know the great UTD and Liverpool teams always looked ahead the second a season had finished. They cleared out the weakest links and looked to bring in better players.Those dead-beats (your words not mine) were, and have been our weakest links for two seasons running.

In Oscar, I thought we had a real talent in the making, but sadly, he hasn't lived up to that early promise. The odd flash here and there is not good enough I'm afraid!

As for Willian?
Mike Ashley has said he's staying at Newcastle until they win something ( I think the Sun will burn out before that happens) so William can stay at Chelsea til he creates and scores another goal.”

All I'm saying is, be careful what you wish for.
Oscar may not have quite lived up to our expectations in terms of consistency, but at his best he's still a fine player. I'm not against selling anyone if you can be sure the replacement will be an upgrade, but there's a lot of players we've been linked with that would be too much of a gamble..in my opinion.
We will never agree about Willian..except maybe about his lack of goals. I think every other aspect of his game has been top class recently. Fair enough, he might not complete that final pass which counts as an "assist" so often as Fabregas, but he's been just as involved in build up play and far more effective in closing down the opposition.
If we can get back to the high pressing game we played so well at the beginning of the season, Oscar and/or Willian will be very important.
codeblue
26-05-2015
Oscar has played far too much football, he has played constantly for almost 2 years and last summer had the responsibility of being brazils best player when hosting a world cup in brazil!

Lets judge him in 12 months time.

We have let far too many excellent players go, and replaced them with dross in the past.

De Bruyne and Schurrle are our two latest mistakes.

Lets not make another with Oscar. He was better than Hazard when they both joined.
Dixon
26-05-2015
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“All I'm saying is, be careful what you wish for.
Oscar may not have quite lived up to our expectations in terms of consistency, but at his best he's still a fine player. I'm not against selling anyone if you can be sure the replacement will be an upgrade, but there's a lot of players we've been linked with that would be too much of a gamble..in my opinion.
We will never agree about Willian..except maybe about his lack of goals. I think every other aspect of his game has been top class recently. Fair enough, he might not complete that final pass which counts as an "assist" so often as Fabregas, but he's been just as involved in build up play and far more effective in closing down the opposition.
If we can get back to the high pressing game we played so well at the beginning of the season, Oscar and/or Willian will be very important.”


On the Monday night club on Radio 5, Willian was singled out as the weak link.
Nobody said he was a bad player, but if Chelsea want to progress they need a player on the right who poses more threat.
It's ridiculous to have our aging centre half being more of a goal threat than one of our attacking midfielders.
Tip top 2
26-05-2015
Rumoured that Falcao could be on his way

We don't need another Schevchenko or Torres even at a cut price. At his best, like Torres and Shevchenko, he was phenomenal, but not now.
The_don1
26-05-2015
Jose has just given a very good speech at the end of the year awards
SegaGamer
26-05-2015
Hazard wins Players player of the year and fans player of the year

Zouma wins Young player of the year

Solanke wins academy player of the year

Oscar wins goal of the season for his goal against QPR.

I'm a bit disappointed that Terry didn't win fans player of the year. He deserves a personal award for the season he has had.
The_don1
27-05-2015
Nice to win but I don't think JT needs personal prizes to know how highly Chelsea fans hold him.

It's better for someone like Hazzard to be recognized for his efforts this season. The more he wins the more it becomes a habit.
codeblue
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by Tip top 2:
“Rumoured that Falcao could be on his way

We don't need another Schevchenko or Torres even at a cut price. At his best, like Torres and Shevchenko, he was phenomenal, but not now.”

Well at least no one is paying 50 million for him.

I would suspect it would be another loan deal, on vastly reduced wages.
carefree_blue
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Jose has just given a very good speech at the end of the year awards”

Very good indeed….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6c0S68CzgU
codeblue
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Very good indeed….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6c0S68CzgU”

Already blocked due to copyright!

(poor show by chelsea here, why cant the fans watch it?)
SegaGamer
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Very good indeed….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6c0S68CzgU”

I love how bitter our rival fans are about it. All season we have been getting nothing but criticism from rival fans but when Mourinho gives it back to them they don't like it, ha, babies
The_don1
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Already blocked due to copyright!

(poor show by chelsea here, why cant the fans watch it?)”

You can watch it.

Like anything else if you pay for it
RichmondBlue
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Well at least no one is paying 50 million for him.

I would suspect it would be another loan deal, on vastly reduced wages.”

Yes, it might not be a such bad idea, a seasons loan at a much reduced salary.
Watching him playing for United a couple of times, Falcao didn't seem to be completely "gone". It looked as if there was still something "there" but only in flashes. Unlike Schevchenko for example, it was clear his legs were finished before he arrived. It would probably be more like Torres, but without the long-term financial problem he presented. It would be a gamble, but with no great risk involved.
The_don1
27-05-2015
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Yes, it might not be a such bad idea, a seasons loan at a much reduced salary.
Watching him playing for United a couple of times, Falcao didn't seem to be completely "gone". It looked as if there was still something "there" but only in flashes. Unlike Schevchenko for example, it was clear his legs were finished before he arrived. It would probably be more like Torres, but without the long-term financial problem he presented. It would be a gamble, but with no great risk involved.”

If he is happy to be behind Costa and Remy when he arrived and with no massive loan fee it might be worth a look at.

Bamford is not ready to step up yet and needs another season at a club playing week in week out and one where there is pressure. I know he was not 100% for the play off but there was something still missing from him.

So we need someone to come in. His experience would have some value.

It would depend on what else was available
NinjyBear
30-05-2015
Looks like we're really going for Falcao.....not a smart move. I didn't see anything last season to suggest he will ever be able to handle the Premier League.
codeblue
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by NinjyBear:
“Looks like we're really going for Falcao.....not a smart move. I didn't see anything last season to suggest he will ever be able to handle the Premier League.”

Not even a shot on target in months. He makes Torres look prolific.
RichmondBlue
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by NinjyBear:
“Looks like we're really going for Falcao.....not a smart move. I didn't see anything last season to suggest he will ever be able to handle the Premier League.”

He was playing just after recuperating from a serious injury. Maybe he'll never be the same player again, we don't know. He still showed good movement off the ball, but like Torres he missed some clear cut chances. Torres wouldn't have been a terrible risk on a loan deal, would he ? So, on risk/reward it might just be worth the gamble.
But I don't understand what's in it for Monaco ? United paid them a £6m loan fee and presumably covered all his wages..260/280k a week ! If we are trying to get him on loan for considerably less, won't Monaco have to make up his wages ? I would have thought they would be better off looking to sell him, even if it meant practically giving him away.
But Mourinho and Falcao share the same agent, so maybe a mutually satisfactory deal could be done.
I must admit, the idea of seeing Falcao running on as a sub in a Chelsea shirt still excites me a bit. It's hard to believe it was only a couple of years ago that we were all drooling over the idea of him coming to join us. It would also be fascinating to see Costa and Falcao link up again. The last time they were together for Atletico in 2012/13, Falcao scored 34 goals in 41 games, but Costa playing as his back-up or secondary striker also managed 20 goals in all competitions. I'd take some of that.
Jim De Ville
30-05-2015
The 'Mendes factor' aside, I really don't know why you guys would be interested in Falcao. He's been absolutely rubbish, for us.

Wouldn't someone like Danny Ings be a better option? Young, English, considerably cheaper, and on the basis of this season, probably more effective.
RichmondBlue
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“The 'Mendes factor' aside, I really don't know why you guys would be interested in Falcao. He's been absolutely rubbish, for us.

Wouldn't someone like Danny Ings be a better option? Young, English, considerably cheaper, and on the basis of this season, probably more effective.”

Yes, but we are only talking about a back-up striker. I think you finished up paying nearly £24m for one season ? I would hope we were looking at a figure considerably less. Would Ings, or any othe ambitious young striker want to join us if it meant spending most of the season on the bench ?
You obviously saw a lot more of Falcao than I did. Is he completely gone in your opinion ? The few times I saw him, there still seemed to be something there. I guess (despite the Torres experience) it's difficult to get my head around the idea that one of the world's greatest strikers can be finished in a couple of years. It doesn't seem long ago that he was ripping teams (including ourselves) apart.
The_don1
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“The 'Mendes factor' aside, I really don't know why you guys would be interested in Falcao. He's been absolutely rubbish, for us.

Wouldn't someone like Danny Ings be a better option? Young, English, considerably cheaper, and on the basis of this season, probably more effective.”

Depends on what you looking for in a signing.

We only play with one with striker most of time, We will prob only have 3 strikers as part of the first team, So we will need someone experienced more so if they are filling the Drogba place. Not worried about age as it will only be a short term appointment as season after next I would hope Bamford would be ready to step up.
RichmondBlue
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Depends on what you looking for in a signing.

We only play with one with striker most of time, We will prob only have 3 strikers as part of the first team, So we will need someone experienced more so if they are filling the Drogba place. Not worried about age as it will only be a short term appointment as season after next I would hope Bamford would be ready to step up.”

Agreed. Also, if the Griezmann rumours prove correct, we'll have a further option. Griezmann could play through the middle in a 4-3-3, it wouldn't be ideal, he's not a hold-up player, but he's fast, direct and certainly knows where the goal is judging from last season.
Jim De Ville
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Yes, but we are only talking about a back-up striker. I think you finished up paying nearly £24m for one season ? I would hope we were looking at a figure considerably less. Would Ings, or any othe ambitious young striker want to join us if it meant spending most of the season on the bench ?
You obviously saw a lot more of Falcao than I did. Is he completely gone in your opinion ? The few times I saw him, there still seemed to be something there. I guess (despite the Torres experience) it's difficult to get my head around the idea that one of the world's greatest strikers can be finished in a couple of years. It doesn't seem long ago that he was ripping teams (including ourselves) apart.”

Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Depends on what you looking for in a signing.

We only play with one with striker most of time, We will prob only have 3 strikers as part of the first team, So we will need someone experienced more so if they are filling the Drogba place. Not worried about age as it will only be a short term appointment as season after next I would hope Bamford would be ready to step up.”

All fair enough, I guess.

I just used Ings as an example, really. As for him being happy to sit on the bench, I'd guess that'll happen even if he goes to Spurs, or Liverpool. He won't be first-choice at either of those clubs.

Falcao just looks completely shot, confidence-wise. His touch seems to have gone, as does his sharpness. Whether that's purely down to confidence, or his injury, I don't know.

It just seemed like an odd move, to me.
RichmondBlue
30-05-2015
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“All fair enough, I guess.

I just used Ings as an example, really. As for him being happy to sit on the bench, I'd guess that'll happen even if he goes to Spurs, or Liverpool. He won't be first-choice at either of those clubs.

Falcao just looks completely shot, confidence-wise. His touch seems to have gone, as does his sharpness. Whether that's purely down to confidence, or his injury, I don't know.

It just seemed like an odd move, to me.”

Oh right, thanks.
Presumably Mourinho must feel there's something there, it doesn't sound as if anyone's twisting his arm to take Falcao. I suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
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