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I'm starting to get a bit twitchy about our lack of movement in the transfer market.
Last year, Jose knew exactly who and what he needed, but this year it's doesn't seem so clear. So far, all the talk is of loan deals and moderate level buys. Atm, there's no sign of anyone coming in who will improve the first team. Players like Turan will not improve us one bit! He's just one more of those dull, bits and pieces workers. But ideally we need more goals from somebody in midfield and I agree, Turan wouldn't solve that problem. |
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I'm starting to get a bit twitchy about our lack of movement in the transfer market.
Last year, Jose knew exactly who and what he needed, but this year it's doesn't seem so clear. So far, all the talk is of loan deals and moderate level buys. Atm, there's no sign of anyone coming in who will improve the first team. Players like Turan will not improve us one bit! He's just one more of those dull, bits and pieces workers. I don't see United or city signing anyone amazing so far, and Liverpool have wasted so much money on dross again. |
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Who do you suggest we should be going for Dixie?
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I'm starting to get a bit twitchy about our lack of movement in the transfer market.
Last year, Jose knew exactly who and what he needed, but this year it's doesn't seem so clear. So far, all the talk is of loan deals and moderate level buys. Atm, there's no sign of anyone coming in who will improve the first team. Players like Turan will not improve us one bit! He's just one more of those dull, bits and pieces workers. Just because the media is not reporting anything that doesn't mean nothing is going on. This window was always going to be a difficult one, Utd and City will be going after any big names available and we cannot get into a fight with them, the price will only be run up and especially with Utd involved we would probably lose and even those we won we have lost because we have overpaid. Buying top class players is never easy, it was more easy last season as it was clear we needed them and they knew they would play this season is less so clear. Last season was all about the first team now we need to look at the squad, everything cannot be about the first team, if you look back at teams that win the premiership it's not the first team that wins it for you year in year out (they can win you a title here and there if your lucky) but your squad. It's the bits and pieces (not sure what a dull player is, I have always thought Gary Lineker and Alan Shearer of quite dull) that are often more important at the end of the season |
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And dixon, we have to remember that we are looking for players to go into our first team.
They would have to be quite the player to get rid of what we have. Perhaps Pogba would improve us, but he is going to Barcelona for 65 million, even though city wanted to pay then £80 million. As much as i like the player, we simply cannot compete with that, or rather we should not be competing with that. There are few players who would improve us, and then its difficult to get that 2nd tier player who wants to sit on the bench. Let other clubs around us buy the dross, or try to buy 6 or 7 new players and think that they will gel as a team. |
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The transfer window only opened yesterday!
I don't see United or city signing anyone amazing so far, and Liverpool have wasted so much money on dross again. Clyne was a player we were apparently looking at, though I don't think we particularly needed him. Looks ok at around £12m though. Firmino is a bit of a gamble at £28m, but after Cuadrado we can hardly claim to get everything right ourselves.
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To be fair, I don't think Liverpool are doing so badly. Danny Ings should provide useful backup, and James Milner is very versatile..both free transfers. I actually wouldn't have minded Milner as a utility player for Chelsea, he always put in a decent shift for Man City when they needed it.
Clyne was a player we were apparently looking at, though I don't think we particularly needed him. Looks ok at around £12m though. Firmino is a bit of a gamble at £28m, but after Cuadrado we can hardly claim to get everything right ourselves. ![]() we would never get milner, as he is leaving city to play every game, which he would not to for us. |
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Who do you suggest we should be going for Dixie?
We desperately need more firepower and a bit of real pace. Offer Oscar as part exchange. |
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Guess it would give our medical team something to do.
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Guess it would give our medical team something to do.
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He'd certainly be a far more exciting signing than another dreary workhorse!
But hay he English (which is always the other thing mentioned when talking players who are not good enough,Anything other his actual abilities) |
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Lets sign Batman.
With the new film coming out that would be so exciting. We would never have to park the bus again as we would have the Bat-mobile instead ohhh that would be exciting as well. |
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Claude Makelele
Frank Lampard Nemanja Matic Exciting signings? Not really but very important ones, The first two you could argue the smartest and most important signing of recent years and Matic could fall into that. Torries was a exciting signing and that ended up oh wait on second thoughts |
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Yep it would be very exciting buying a player who is rarely fit and when he is fit is not good enough to get into a team with realistic title aims.
But hay he English (which is always the other thing mentioned when talking players who are not good enough,Anything other his actual abilities) ![]() Last season Arsenal were right in easing Theo back into it their squad after a long lay. Mark my words! If we do not buy more firepower, we will stagnate next season! There current best 11 was stretched to it's limits last season! |
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Claude Makelele
Frank Lampard Nemanja Matic Exciting signings? Not really but very important ones, The first two you could argue the smartest and most important signing of recent years and Matic could fall into that. Torries was a exciting signing and that ended up oh wait on second thoughts ![]() But they (Frank and Claude) were the right signings at the right time! Right now, if we are going to progress, we need more firepower, flair and creativity, not another worker. |
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But you're fine with us playing a Brazilian who can't get into the worst Brazilian team there's ever been.
![]() Last season Arsenal were right in easing Theo back into it their squad after a long lay. Mark my words! If we do not buy more firepower, we will stagnate next season! There current best 11 was stretched to it's limits last season! That's for other managers to pick who they want. If you ask me who I would take notice of when picking players and working with them out of Dunga, Jose and "Big Phil" I am going for Jose every single time. With the level of the current England team I would prob pick a player who struggled to Guernsey's national team Yes of course we need more fire power but Wallcott is not the man to provide that. A few years ago he could have been but made a mistake going to Arsenal and has stagnated since. Oscar brings different things to the game. Fire-power is a very small part of what wins titles (and sometimes not the most important thing). Arsenal's reasons for not playing Wallcot are their own at the end of the day he is not at the level needed for a team that wins titles |
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I fully agree with you!
![]() But they (Frank and Claude) were the right signings at the right time! Right now, if we are going to progress, we need more firepower, flair and creativity, not another worker. If he had a different passport he would have been forgotten about years ago |
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Theo Walcott, would be a good start!
We desperately need more firepower and a bit of real pace. Offer Oscar as part exchange. ![]() Come on mate, he's not even assured of an Arsenal first team place. |
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Jose wanted ox in exchange for Cech, but arsenal would not deal
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Theo Walcott, would be a good start!
We desperately need more firepower and a bit of real pace. Offer Oscar as part exchange. Haven't you ever wondered why the big European clubs are never queuing up to sign players like Walcott ? It's simple, homegrown players are vastly over-rated in this country. Walcott is a decent enough player but nothing more. The likes of Willian and Oscar (and Turan should we sign him) are streets ahead in terms of technical ability. Im not saying that just because he's an Arsenal player. Even Joe Cole, a player we all loved at Chelsea, was nothing special if we're being brutally honest. |
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Indeed, joe cole went on to do, err absolutely nothing in the game whatsoever.
I just dont get why dixon hates on willian and oscar. They are absolute stars. |
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Not "blockbuster" enough. All rounders are frowned upon it seems to me and if you look at every time we have won the title the all-rounders have been vitial
That's the problem with seeing football as part of the entertainment industry today. It's all about what something "looks" like rather then what is actually going on. It's like the films today are not judged if they are any good or not but on how much money they make at the box office, It's not about when you come out of the cinema and talking how the film has made you feel or the story that been told but now you come out and say "that film made xxM's in its first week" |
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I just dont get why dixon hates on willian and oscar. They are absolute stars. He's now had two consecutive poor seasons that have simply not been good enough for a title winning team! Willian is an Everton/Euro level player. When he came on for Brazil in the WC he was the worst player in the worst Brazilian team in history! He literally did nothing but run around like a headless chicken and gave the ball away time and again. His fans say he does the unglamorous hard work, while I say he does the simple easy work and 'passes the buck' whenever it comes to the really difficult things to do on a football pitch, which is to score and create goals. Would any top European team, past and present, have an attacking midfielder with zero end product in their team? I say that's a big fat no! We won the title inspite of him! If we had a player in his position who actually scored and created their fare share, then we wouldn't need Ivan bombing forward trying to do something that Willian should be doing. Ivan could stay back and concentrate on defending and that would make Willian completely redundant! We will not make any further progress with Willian taking up a first team space! Without Hazard and Costa, we would have been ouside the top 6 last season, such was the dire lack of contribution from Oscar and Willian. We cannot afford to go into another season with everything resting on Hazard and Costa! |
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Ha ha ha winning trophies inspite of players, hilarious really.
He was a big part of winning the title anyone should be able to see that. Still banging the irrelevant nonsense about worst Brazil side drum? Not sure what it has to do with a team that win things. Top European Team? Let's become a top "league" team first. One title in how many years wouldn't make us a top European team even if we a team full of Hazzard's. |
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I was a big fan of Oscar, but he's lost his way since Jose arrived.
He's now had two consecutive poor seasons that have simply not been good enough for a title winning team! Willian is an Everton/Euro level player. When he came on for Brazil in the WC he was the worst player in the worst Brazilian team in history! He literally did nothing but run around like a headless chicken and gave the ball away time and again. His fans say he does the unglamorous hard work, while I say he does the simple easy work and 'passes the buck' whenever it comes to the really difficult things to do on a football pitch, which is to score and create goals. Would any top European team, past and present, have an attacking midfielder with zero end product in their team? I say that's a big fat no! We won the title inspite of him! If we had a player in his position who actually scored and created their fare share, then we wouldn't need Ivan bombing forward trying to do something that Willian should be doing. Ivan could stay back and concentrate on defending and that would make Willian completely redundant! We will not make any further progress with Willian taking up a first team space! Without Hazard and Costa, we would have been ouside the top 6 last season, such was the dire lack of contribution from Oscar and Willian. We cannot afford to go into another season with everything resting on Hazard and Costa! As for 6th place without Hazard or costa, I think you have been in the Sun too long dixon. |
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