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Old 16-08-2015, 20:04
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As another outsider I don't get why Chelsea haven't really strengthened the squad up to now. The second half of the season was poor and yet nothing's been done about it.

Rahman is a start. Can Azpilicueta play at right back? If they can get Stones in I'd probably go with a backline of Azpilicueta - Stones - Zouma - Rahman and put a boot up the backsides of Ivanovic and Chill especially.

Midfield is an issue. Where's the width? Where's the midfield enforcer? Moses deserves to get a chance out wide considering how flat they've been. Oscar needs to return at the first opportunity - wide right? Not his position but they have no other options. Keep Matic and Fabregas just behind Hazard with Costa up front.

But where are the options? If Mourinho wants to drop Matic or Fabregas who can he bring in? Ramires? Mikel? Oscar obviously is an option but that's about it. Outside Terry, Cahill and Zouma where are the options in central defence?

The lack of depth is haunting Chelsea already. The only plus is it's still August and can be corrected.
Agree about Moses. Missed that one, competition for Willian. He can run at defenders, and isn't lightning quick, but is strong and skilful. People say Willian runs a lot. So can Mo Farah, but I don't think that should be why he plays week in week out. He's too negative too often to be an automatic choice, and it's putting too much of a burden on Hazard's shoulders to always be the player who has to conjur a bit of magic.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:05
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Really? If we had an adequate squad at least one of them would be on the bench right now. Probably Fabregas.
I thought Fabregas was going to be just the player we needed!
However, after s promising start he faded and went AWOL far too often.
Now, it's looks like he really is a player who's best days are behind him and easy to understand why Barca were ready to let him go.

What worries me is, if Jose sticks around Hazard might ask for a transfer. He must be getting sick and tired of having to carry the likes of Willian.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:08
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I thought Fabregas was going to be just the player we needed!
However, after s promising start he faded and went AWOL far too often.
Now, it's looks like he really is a player who's best days are behind him and easy to understand why Barca were ready to let him go.

What worries me is, if Jose sticks around Hazard might ask for a transfer. He must be getting sick and tired of having to carry the likes of Willian.
Do you really believe the stuff you are saying?
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:10
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Man City deservedly won today, but they did it with basically the same team that failed last season. Their £50m signing, Sterling, didn't make that much of an impact. The difference was that some of their players who were woeful (at times) last year have upped their game.
Yes, our position is the complete opposite. Players who were setting the Premiership alight in the first half of last season are not performing at anywhere near their best. But that's football.

To the players and managers shame, City were not up for it last season.
Our problen is the usual one for Jose teams - runs out of ideas and motivation after a few seasons.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:12
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Do you really believe the stuff you are saying?
No, I'm only here to wind people up.

Funny how a lot of 'idiots' in the media say many of the things I say.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:18
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As others have said, let get a bit of perspective. It's only two games. We don't go from Champions to being a bad side.
We aren't at our best so to play City now was not ideal. Aguero is a world class striker who could run any defence ragged.
Certainly a bad day at the office but let's not get too carried away..
I would like to see us move for Pedro and Stones ASAP.
If Utd are in for Pedro I cannot see us getting him.

We would have to either pay way over Utd's offer and or do the same for wages. Cannot see that happening
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:19
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No, I'm only here to wind people up.

Funny how a lot of 'idiots' in the media say many of the things I say.
Good job nobody would take any notice of what they say then.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:21
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No, I'm only here to wind people up.

Funny how a lot of 'idiots' in the media say many of the things I say.
You are honestly just the most negative Chelsea fan I've came across.

Did you just imply that the media are always right? hahaha
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:35
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You would really drop terry already? Come on guys, get a grip
True, true. The substitution bamboozled me to be honest. But at the same time I think Chelsea need to plan for a future without him and give experience to Zouma.

No, I'm only here to wind people up.

Funny how a lot of 'idiots' in the media say many of the things I say.
I have to admit I must have missed the media drive to have Mourinho sacked.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:40
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[quote=Fudd;79280236]True, true. The substitution bamboozled me to be honest. But at the same time I think Chelsea need to plan for a future without him and give experience to Zouma

Yeah I do agree, Mourinho just needs to find the balance
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:42
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'Rahman, a pacy and attacking full-back who can also operate as a midfielder or winger, made more successful tackles than any other player in the Bundesliga last season. He also attempted the most crosses from the left flank.'

Sounds good. Especially impressive for a 21yo.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:42
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You are honestly just the most negative Chelsea fan I've came across.

Did you just imply that the media are always right? hahaha

I love my club and was going when we really were shite and nearly in the old 3rd division.

I have never liked Jose and neither did the Real Madrid fans, but I doubt anyone calls them negative. I gather he wasn't liked at Inter, too much either.

Oh, and i was the only one on here who stuck up for Rafa, when everyone else was being negative.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:45
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Good job nobody would take any notice of what they say then.
As you know, these days the media is made up of lots of ex pros. Are you saying they talk a load of rubbish?
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:50
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As you know, these days the media is made up of lots of ex pros. Are you saying they talk a load of rubbish?
Again, which ex-pros have said it's time for Mourinho to be sacked?
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:54
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I thought Fabregas was going to be just the player we needed!
However, after s promising start he faded and went AWOL far too often.
Now, it's looks like he really is a player who's best days are behind him and easy to understand why Barca were ready to let him go.

What worries me is, if Jose sticks around Hazard might ask for a transfer. He must be getting sick and tired of having to carry the likes of Willian.
Chelsea may get to the point where Hazard asks for a transfer anyway because he may want to move onto bigger and better things; playing alongside Ibrahimovic and Cavani at PSG must seem a tantalising prospect, and he's good enough to get into Real Madrid and Barcelona's sides also.
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Old 16-08-2015, 20:55
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Wow, totally shocked by all the "Jose out" posts on here. He is a superb manager and a winning manager. Although I don't like his style at all and his teams are always horrifically ugly, to deny his qualities as a manager is crazy. He knows how to win and wins often.

Maybe the economic crisis in Russia is tying his hands and he cannot buy whoever he wants?
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:08
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I love my club and was going when we really were shite and nearly in the old 3rd division.

I have never liked Jose and neither did the Real Madrid fans, but I doubt anyone calls them negative. I gather he wasn't liked at Inter, too much either.

Oh, and i was the only one on here who stuck up for Rafa, when everyone else was being negative.

Sticking up for Rafa says it all
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:10
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As you know, these days the media is made up of lots of ex pros. Are you saying they talk a load of rubbish?
They are not there for their intelligence, they are they to play a role in the circus that is the premier league.

They are there to keep the lowest demographic of football fans interested
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:10
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Wow, totally shocked by all the "Jose out" posts on here. He is a superb manager and a winning manager. Although I don't like his style at all and his teams are always horrifically ugly, to deny his qualities as a manager is crazy. He knows how to win and wins often.

Maybe the economic crisis in Russia is tying his hands and he cannot buy whoever he wants?
No it's just Dixon. I really have my doubts he supports Chelsea but i guess we have to take his word for it. Though when he said he likes Rafa and wanted Brendan as our manager sort of gives a bit of a clue......
I would say he is very much in a minority.
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:11
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Mourinho is a better manager than Rafa, that's for sure and does anyone really want Brendan as their manager?! Never heard that one before
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:11
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Wow, totally shocked by all the "Jose out" posts on here. He is a superb manager and a winning manager. Although I don't like his style at all and his teams are always horrifically ugly, to deny his qualities as a manager is crazy. He knows how to win and wins often.

Maybe the economic crisis in Russia is tying his hands and he cannot buy whoever he wants?
Or there is no one out there at the moment that offers even remotely value for money
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:11
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Sticking up for Rafa says it all
And wanting Brendan as our manager. A bloke with a blank CV for god sake....
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:14
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Chelsea may get to the point where Hazard asks for a transfer anyway because he may want to move onto bigger and better things; playing alongside Ibrahimovic and Cavani at PSG must seem a tantalising prospect, and he's good enough to get into Real Madrid and Barcelona's sides also.
Well as United and Liverpool have found out, it's hard to keep your best players.
He signed a 5 year deal so only huge money would tempt Chelsea.
Can't see him going back to the French league, he's been there and done it.
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:15
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And wanting Brendan as our manager. A bloke with a blank CV for god sake....
Both of which should have a premier title to their name if they was half as good as they was meant to be. The fact that they failed when it was nearly impossible to do so says it all
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Old 16-08-2015, 21:16
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PSG is more of a retirement home, hardly the place for an ambitious talent in his prime who may be good enough for Spain
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