The overreactions are hilarious aren't they. Take out Spurs and every match until Christmas is very winnable for Chelsea (yes even leicester)

Stoke away is tough for any team, even those at the top.

Chelsea will pick up a tidy amount of points until Christmas to set them up for a good New Year run imo. It doesn't take much to turn things around and build up momentum!

relegation battle

It's laughable, isn't it? Anyone who genuinely thinks that's likely needs to come back to reality. It's nothing more than wishful thinking for some people.

I seem to remember the same bollocks being spouted about Liverpool a few seasons back, when they started badly. They turned it around and started picking up wins, and so will we.

A few video clips of how Chelsea have attacked without Mourhino:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIFH5DhdePM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0qOeLkWwHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxEv4lBM8T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-0szAH2ylY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGfQDMeS3_o

With the money invested in world class players such as: Fabregas, Costa, Hazard, etc, to see Stoke counter attack and attack better is poor, very poor. To see Stoke out muscle and at many times out play Chelsea with the players Chelsea have got is poor, very poor.

It's no disrespect to Stoke, they gave 100%, and could not have played any better imo. Hughes has done a great job there. 12 games into the season, and Mourhino still can't get Chelsea playing quick, decisive, attacking football with the players he's got? That imo is unacceptable, especially after warning signs towards the end of last season. That's over 6 month's the manager has had to put things right.

OK, there will be people who will stick by him no matter what, and other people who think he brings his problems on himself also have the right to their opinion. Imo, Mourhino has brought football into disrepute and is dragging the club down now.

When Mata and Luiz were sold I said that was a big mistake, and I stick by what I said. They were fantastic Chelsea players, attack minded leaders who gave everything for the club.

And we won the league without them. what a massive mistake that was.

Football into disrepute? What does that even mean? Sounds like something Wenger would say along with the anti football nonsense.

The sales of Luiz and Mata was excellent deals from a business perspective and it would have a insane to turn them down. And since we have been successful since they both left it has showed we was correct in doing so.

Both great players and if they had stayed all well and good but the offers for them was to good to turn down. Made no sense turning that sort of money down for assets that we could achieve our targets without (and playing attacking football is not one of our targets).

You are being very selective trying to prove your point. I could post half a dozen YouTube videos showing superb examples of attacking play with Jose as manager.
The media were purring with pleasure at the football Chelsea played during the first half of last season..and that's without going back to Mourinho's previous spell as manager when we were incredible for a couple of seasons.
You also seem to have a short memory regarding Luiz. Don't you recall the media pundits who were nearly all saying he was a joke as a defender ? Don't get me wrong, I liked the guy, but he was always more than capable of making some dreadful mistake that would cost us points. We could perhaps have persevered and turned him into a great midfield player, but I would still have my doubts about him as a CB. But the price we finally got for him was just too good to refuse.
I agree with you about Mata, it remains a mystery to me why Mourinho didn't rate him. We did get a good price from Man Utd, but looking at some of the signings we've made since it doesn't look such a wise decision. But if you go with a world class manager, you have to allow him to make the decisions, even if you don't always agree with them.

Er, you may not have noticed but we are over a quarter of the way through the season now, I'd hardly call that "early"...........

Still very early in the season and if you look at the point difference between where Chelsea are and need to be it makes it even earlier in the season

I am amazed a managerial change has not been made yet.

Despite winning the title last year it was boring football. A change is needed.

What's boring about winning?

Nothing but for me Ancelotti or Di Matteo have been my favourite Chelsea managers.

Even look at Ranieri is doing at Leicester.

Jose has been getting worse since his time at Real. He's not the manger he once was either that or he's lost the dressing room.

What has favourites got to do with anything? Are we confusing some reality TV show with football?

What is Ranieri doing? Winning anything?

Not the manager he was? He just won the title for god sake. What utter and complete nonsense

Do we have another Chelsea "fan" not happy we won the title last season.
How strange.

I wasn't a fan of him letting the player of the season go Mata.

His signings have been awful.

Had it been any other manager he would have been sacked by now. Champions Leauge place is more than in doubt I'm sure PL stats say Chelsea won't get much above 6th place now at best. I remember Liverpool having a bad few seasons and it was 7th I fear about 10th or 11th this year.

His cup record since returning has been poor. His CL record isn't any better than others as he's not won it.

So yes he won the title but I believe it was only due to the others changing managers like Man united.

As I said, very strange to have another Chelsea fan who talks about Mata, Liverpool and didn't celebrate winning the title. Want Rafa back as well ?
City and Arsenal change managers ? They were our rivals last season. Liverpool had the same manager who managed to lose the title when it was easier to win it the season before. You celebrated us stopping them right ??

You might believe that but the actual facts are Chelsea won because they was better then everyone else not due luck or the year starting in a two or any other such nonsense fans seem to come up with nowadays.

Its like the nonsense that Liverpool did not win the title because a player slipped no they lost it because they was not good enough

So awful they won the title?

As in any job you look at the bigger picture. Yes most managers would have been sacked but there are very few with his CV (if any).

Liverpool a totally different situation, we better resources better manager better players and have the money to bring in better players.

Do think there was a failure in the transfer policy this time though. It's clear now why you were so keen on Stones but someone somewhere at the club should have identified suitable alternatives if you were unable to prise him from Everton. Does seem as if the club put all their eggs in one basket and once backed into a corner by Everton's stubbornness and the impending deadline you didn't really have any credible alternatives lined up.

It's not as if it would have been a '5th striker for the lols' luxury signing either.

It was a bad window that cannot be in doubt but I not sure what else they could have done. City and Utd was always going to be big spenders and there is a shortage of good enough players who we would not have had to pay silly money for (Sterling,KVD and Martial all excellent players but silly money paid).

I don't think when you are a top 3 club you should have a long list of players as there are really not that many players available good enough to improve the squad. Yes we could go down the route of bringing players just for the sake of it but we have done that in the past and its not worked.

Apart from Willian in recent games, is any Chelsea player playing at his best this season?

City made up a ten point deficit in APRIL to win the league in 2012

The likes of Sky will build up every match in November/December as 'pivotal', but the league won't start getting in any way interesting until february- maybe even March

In a league with 20 teams, even after a "quarter of the way through", is still mad early

I'll start writing off Chelsea for the top 4 in March or APril if they're in this position, not feckin November

Seeing as the guy you quoted is a Sunderland fan you'd think he'd know only too well that things can change very quickly considering some of the runs his own team have gone on in recent years to stay up when they'd been looking certs for relegation.

Not really.

Couple of players having decent games here and there but too many are making the most basic of mistakes.

Hah! you're dead right!

Knew he couldn't be a Chelsea fan anyway! The amount of people I see/ hear at the moment looking for any reason to clutch at straws as to why Chelsea are "finished" or this is a "write off season" is beyond belief. I'm not even a Chelsea fan but still find it hilarious

Sure they might not ultimately make top 4, they mightn't even make top 10!

But to be apparently so sure of it in November is laughable- no-one honestly can!.

March and April is when the league will really start to take shape. Plenty of spots won't even be decided until May- perhaps even the last game