Same thought re him going to Utd? (Can put your response in Utd thread, prob better)

I dont disagree with your points from Poccetino's perspective.

Couldn't of put it better myself. Surely the bloke, or boy, must be bored by now.

Chelsea 'fans' who don't want their team to win? You're not Chelsea fans, you're Mourhino fans.

A couple of you posted an 'expert' view a while back that you knew why Wilkins was sacked. Could you inform the man himself, because he doesn't even know.

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/eva...121456277.html

You're fooling no one.

Yes, I like what I've seen of Pochettino, but I don't think it would make much sense right now. We have higher expectations than Spurs, who haven't won anything significant for more than 50 years. They can afford to give him the time to build something special, we are there already..or at least we were supposed to have been.

Very important game on Wednesday night. I can't help feeling that a failure to progress out of the group stages of the CL might just be the last straw for Abramovich. I think he wants to stick with Jose, but an ignominious exit could just be too much to bare.
But I think we can get at least get a draw to keep our hopes alive for a while longer. Then who knows ? We didn't expect to win it before but the players rallied round and refused to be beaten. The only difference is, I don't think we have the same type of characters in the dressing room any more.

I just don't see what you do if you get rid of Mourinho. Ignoring the WUMs and oddities I don't see where Chelsea actually go. Who are the likely candidates who could come in and not be under the same or more pressure than Mourinho? As Ive said before almost every type of coach has been tried and sacked in quick time. There aren't many options out there that don't look quite daft on paper if its deemed necessary to make achange.

No, I agree. I'd stick with Mourinho. I was just trying to see it from Abramovich's position. Though I admit, it's impossible to second guess how he's feeling right now, we never hear a murmur from him.
But if Abramovich does lose patience ( and unless he's changed that's quite possible) I think we'd probably go for another caretaker. Let's face it, Roman doesn't always behave logically when he's become totally fed up with a situation.
Then again, with the new stadium build approaching, he probably does want a few years of stability. I'm sure his intention was to give Jose a long term deal this time, but he couldn't have expected this nightmare of a season.

Nobody said the reason's. They said what the rumours was. Much like you say when talking about how players are feeling and what they are thinking and who we are and not going to buy. They got those rumours from the same places you get your "information" from.

On the contrary, I suspect you're the one that doesn't want Chelsea to win. You must sit there every game hoping for another defeat so that you can update your little anti-Mourinho blog.

I think it's all come from that title winning defeat at Anfield. He just can't get over it.
Funny how he never wants to discuss it.

Come on Moro, have a moan about the tough FA cup draw Chel have.

Courtois; Ivanovic, Zouma, Terry (c), Azpilicueta; Ramires, Matic; Willian, Oscar, Hazard; Diego Costa

Begovic, Cahill, Mikel, Kenedy, Fabregas, Pedro and Remy

Well, we got the result. I was much happier with the commitment showed in this game. Everyone worked hard, and once we scored that rather fortunate first goal, we never looked like losing.
I thought Oscar and Costa were much better tonight. Ramires added a bit of solidity, which in turn helped Matic. Hazard again looked good in flashes, but nowhere near the level of last season. Willian was again my man of the match, the ground that guy covers is just incredible. He may never be rated up there amongst the best players in the world, but you get two players for the price of one on the pitch. He's just everywhere.

Solid performance and top of the group job done.
Should keep our Liverpool supporting friend quiet for a bit

Good win for us. Hopefully the draw will be favourable to us and our form picks up before the next round is played.

Nice goal from Willian, he really has kept us going through this CL group stage. I wonder if he'll get any credit from Dixon for scoring in open play this time?

2nd half performance was prob as complete as we have seen this season.

Defence looked solid. Our midfield look like they have finally been introduced to each other.

Willian once again (and really since he came to us) played very very well. He is very consistent and that is vital. More talented players will have "better" games and that's all well and good BUT they you need players who will be constant if you want to win the big honours and we will need that if we want to get into the top four.

If we can put in a similar performance on Monday then it will be a massive step in the right direction.

Yes, it shows how misleading stats can be. Porto had more possession and more attempts on goal. But I can't remember Courtois being called on to make a really serious save.
It was annoying to see Costa picking up a silly, needless yellow card. But apart from that I thought he had an excellent game. All right, he didn't score, but he was a handful throughout and continually pressed their defenders into commiting rash fouls.
Actually, what I found most encouraging was the attitude of the team. It was an edgy game with a lot at stake, but both the players and Mourinho appeared a lot happier and together from the start.
Were you at the game Don ?

Stat's are about as useful as a wet paper bag. They used by the media as padding and are only used by fans who sit on their sofa watching game after game to try and prove they know what they talking about.

We controlled the game in a far more professional manner then we have any game this season. Everyone did the job requested of them again probably for the first time this season. While I agree to a point he brings it on himself at times I think Costa's yellow card was one only he would get, most other players commit a similar offence at a similar time and it would have been a talking to and move on.

Yea was at the game. Nice to hear the Porto fans singing Jose's name. Show's the respect the fans of his previous clubs have for his achievements during his time at the club

I find that stats tend to get trotted out in an attempt to cover up a problem. If you are winning games and scoring goals stats don't get a mention, if you aren't winning then things like possession and passes get quoted in a desperate bid to make it looks like things aren't so bad!

Can you tell Im a Man Utd fan?

Don't get me wrong they have a place internally amongst the players and coaching staff etc and they can be helpful in that respect but outside? To many times fans and media take them too much at face value without looking at the bigger picture that's mainly due to them lacking the ability to do so (and in the media's case a lack of willingness to educate the fans and not to continue their mission to dumb down the game). To many "fans" have become armchair managers, They actually think they know what they are talking about and with today's media making them think their views actually important.

I try to avoid as much of it as possible. I don't watch the pointless interviews with managers after the game and even with away games and watching them on tv I wont get into the pub until kick off so I can avoid the circus before hand but I saw this week somewhere they was putting up stat's for shots and shots on target etc but now they have one for "possible goals", WTF????

To me is all just filler. Instead of sitting down and actually trying to educate fans and have a intelligent conversation and raise some valid points they just chuck aload of numbers at people to save doing some work. Lazy Journalism at its very worst

No, I'm a fan who wants a manger who can bring continued success to the club. If that means a different manager every two or three seasons, so be it. Boring, negative, overly defensive football where excellent youngsters are not given a sniff will never bring continued success on the field, and it will never attract investment in the form of better sponsorship deals off the field.

Imo, sticking with Mourhino is a recipe for disaster, and I can't understand why any so called fan of Chelsea would want that.

[quote=Tip top 2;80711047]No, I'm a fan who wants a manger who can bring continued success to the club. If that means a different manager every two or three seasons, so be it. Boring, negative, overly defensive football where excellent youngsters are not given a sniff will never bring continued success on the field, and it will never attract investment in the form of better sponsorship deals off the field.

Imo, sticking with Mourhino is a recipe for disaster, and I can't understand why any so called fan of Chelsea would want that.[/QUOTE]

Well that recipe has included three Premiership titles so far. I don't think many genuine fans are prepared to disregard that so quickly. Wenger, Pellegrini, Van Gaal..none of them have impressed me recently. Who would you suggest we get to play this fantastic football you crave ?
We have got some great young players coming through, but when it comes to suggesting who should have been given more chances it's not so easy. Traore, RLC, Kenedy, would you have given any of them a longer run in the team ? If so, who would you have left out with absolute confidence that it didn't weaken the team ?
Baba Rahman has been given games, but the jury's still out there as far as I'm concerned. It's easy to say...play the youngsters, but when you get down to it leaving out established, experienced players doesn't look such a good idea.

But we have not had continued success. Yes we have won a few nice cups but league wise and that is the only way you can measure success has been patchy at best. League success has really only came with one manager

As for the youngsters since you have continued to say if you have actually seen any of these youngster play at a decent standard and given your own view of their strengths and weaknesses (other then what someone else has told you) then I really cannot see how you can judge them as "excellent" or if they should be have given more games then they already have.

Yes agree 100%. With the youngsters it's rather a Catch 22 situation. If our season had been different, there probably would be an argument for giving them more game time. But every game has become a "must win" and we've struggled against some of the weakest teams. In Mourinho's position, I can't say I would have taken any gambles playing youngsters unless injuries demanded it.
Having said that, I would love to see RLC given a run in the pivot alongside Matic. It could be just what we've been looking for, Ruben has the physicality Fabregas doesn't possess and he has more skill with the ball at his feet compared with Ramires. But RLC doesn't quite look ready yet.

Since he's a young Liverpool fan he wouldn't have a clue about winning titles would he