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Yep if Jose can't get Chelsea to work then something is seriously rotten at that club. Assuming of course that he wanted to make things work.
Jose is a natural winner. I think winning is in his DNA so yes I think he did wanna make things work. Maybe "things" was very different was this time around from his first time around in terms of the professionalism of the players. |
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I'm feeling angry and bitter. I do think that a few players have conspired against him, a side just doesn't go backwards in the manner Chelsea have in a few months.
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Jose to take a break, and then perhaps take the Portugal job after the Euro's, I think might just be his next job, either that or the PSG one.
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If Paris looking for a change then could be José. Think AVB could get that also.
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I'm feeling angry and bitter. I do think that a few players have conspired against him, a side just doesn't go backwards in the manner Chelsea have in a few months.
They're not machines, they're human beings and damn good footballers at that. Come on the Chels'! Where ARE the muffins??? Hiding? sulking? The club marches forward.. |
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Are people including Hazard in the list of players who stopped performing 'for' Jose? I don't doubt he would be fed up with some of the criticisms (tough), but he doesn't seem the type to lose interest and stop trying because of it. Personally, with him I think it was just an extreme loss of form.
Matic/Fabregas/Costa are the 3 main culprits IMO. |
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Eh! R'mond lad, leave the squad alone, they're good lads. Getting told to do the same old, same old, over and again is not on.
They're not machines, they're human beings and damn good footballers at that. Come on the Chels'! Where ARE the muffins??? Hiding? sulking? The club marches forward.. |
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Eh! R'mond lad, leave the squad alone, they're good lads. Getting told to do the same old, same old, over and again is not on.
They're not machines, they're human beings and damn good footballers at that. Come on the Chels'! Where ARE the muffins??? Hiding? sulking? The club marches forward.. |
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Are people including Hazard in the list of players who stopped performing 'for' Jose? I don't doubt he would be fed up with some of the criticisms, but he doesn't seem the type to lose interest because of it. Personally, with him I think it was just an extreme loss of form.
Matic/Fabregas/Costa are the 3 main culprits IMO. Hazard's form has been bad and yes that could be due to extreme loss of form but wont is not a loss of form is attitude and I think him coming off on Monday shows a bad attitude and a lack of professionalism |
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Again the facts do not back up "IMO"
The "fact" we won the title doesn't disprove that they were poor from January-May. And they've each been significantly worse since the start of this season. There has to be a reason for it - 3 top players aren't just going to forget how to do their jobs without their attitude/egos being heavily involved. |
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What "facts" don't back me up? I don't know if they fell out with Jose earlier this year or not, but any football fan can see that those 3 have been under-performing since January Do you disagree?
The "fact" we won the title doesn't disprove that they were poor from January-May. And they've each been significantly worse since the start of this season. There has to be a reason for it - 3 top players aren't just going to forget how to do their jobs without their attitude/egos being heavily involved. His talent means he should be able to pull everyone else up. They are very good and talented players but Cesc's attitude has been questioned before, Matic is still learning to play at this level. Costa is Costa and we know what he is like. All in the wrong I agree but Eden should be above all that now. He should be doing what all world class players do and drag the team kicking and screaming but instead he is mopping about like a little child. It was a time for him to be a leader and he did not do so |
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He should have taken my advice I posted on here.................................never go back.
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Are people including Hazard in the list of players who stopped performing 'for' Jose? I don't doubt he would be fed up with some of the criticisms (tough), but he doesn't seem the type to lose interest and stop trying because of it. Personally, with him I think it was just an extreme loss of form.
Matic/Fabregas/Costa are the 3 main culprits IMO. Matic is another possibility, but I think Fabregas was probably in Jose's "camp"..he appeared to be favoured even when clearly out of form. But I'm sticking with what I've been saying for months , something (or several things) happened over the summer that changed things dramatically..and I doubt we'll ever find out the real truth. |
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I was going to try not to mention names, because it would only be speculation on my part. But I'd go for Costa, Hazard and Oscar. I wouldn't go so far as saying any of them haven't been trying, but I think they fell out (badly) with Mourinho and it's affected their game.
Matic is another possibility, but I think Fabregas was probably in Jose's "camp"..he appeared to be favoured even when clearly out of form. But I'm sticking with what I've been saying for months , something (or several things) happened over the summer that changed things dramatically..and I doubt we'll ever find out the real truth. |
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He should have taken my advice I posted on here.................................never go back.
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Eh! R'mond lad, leave the squad alone, they're good lads. Getting told to do the same old, same old, over and again is not on.
They're not machines, they're human beings and damn good footballers at that. Come on the Chels'! Where ARE the muffins??? Hiding? sulking? The club marches forward.. |
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He should have taken my advice I posted on here.................................never go back.
He has proven himself again as a title winning manager. He has come out with a nice amount of money and will have no issue getting another job as has been proven before with him and much poorer managers. It's not like this will make the smallest amount of difference to anything. All he has proven is that the manager job at Chelsea is a short term job no matter if you are a success or not and that's something we knew already |
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Well its what we do isn't it. We just can't keep a manager long term.
We need to get through this season and then clear out those players who have clearly not been doing their best. One consolation, whoever takes over it won't be as toxic as when Rafa arrived. It won't be great but nowhere near as bad as that. |
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Well its what we do isn't it. We just can't keep a manager long term.
We need to get through this season and then clear out those players who have clearly not been doing their best. One consolation, whoever takes over it won't be as toxic as when Rafa arrived. It won't be great but nowhere near as bad as that. |
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Well, if we can get get to mid-table safety with a decent cushion of points, perhaps we could use the remainder of the season to bring on a few of our young players. We still have the CL of course, and who knows, this season has been so crazy we might even win it again.
What a difference a year makes. By this time last year Paddy Power had already paid out on bets for us to win the PL. Now I know that was a publicity stunt, but even so it's the most remarkable change of fortune in football I can ever remember. |
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Well, if we can get get to mid-table safety with a decent cushion of points, perhaps we could use the remainder of the season to bring on a few of our young players. We still have the CL of course, and who knows, this season has been so crazy we might even win it again.
What a difference a year makes. By this time last year Paddy Power had already paid out on bets for us to win the PL. Now I know that was a publicity stunt, but even so it's the most remarkable change of fortune in football I can ever remember. Even with a decent cushion of points would even a caretaker manager risk losing that cushion? I think the best we can hope for at the moment is get though the season where ever that might end up and then a massive clear out of players and rebuild yet again and I don't think we should look at any player as safe, No matter how well they have played in the past or they might play in the future. Anyone who has even the slight smell of having even the smallest amount of blame for the season so far should be treated the same as the manager and moved on. |
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Truly awful interview given by Emenalo on the website.
Do we really not have anyone who looks at these things before they go out? We really don't help ourself s at times like this. |
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Yep, the blokes a clown for coming out with that stuff.
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Emanolo's a complete joke but unfortunately we already knew this a long time ago. He's nothing more than a Nigerian scammer. Absolving the players of any blame so that he can cover his own arse for the abysmal transfer window we had this summer.
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Yes it was a awful window but I still think again the transfer committee had some credit in the bank due to the window before and I not sure there was much value in the last window.
My issue is what was said in the interview and by who. He should not have done the interview. We said in the statement confirming the sacking we would not be making a further comment yet soon after we are making further comments and its a "technical director". Can understand if it was Roman himself as that would be appropriate or a senior member of the board just reading a prepared text. But instead we get someone who has little or no media savy and seemingly saying what every he wants to and someone who no experience in working in the front of house part of football at this level. These are just rookie business and PR mistakes. As a business you learn from mistakes, We have continued to do so so when it comes to sacking managers. We follow the same mistakes when dealing with the fallout. We should be experienced at handling situations like this but once again we make a bad situation 1000 times worse when it seems impossible to do so |
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