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Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5)
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The_don1
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Yes but nobody said Chelsea would retain the title a bad season is 4th. 16th with all the millions in the team is crazy.

I expect Chelsea to win most matches now he's gone. It was either buy a new team or get a new manager.”

So money = success on the field?

Again totally illogical and has no base in reality
Dixon
18-12-2015
According to the excellent Spanish football expert, Graham Hunter, we have no chance of getting either Pep or Simeone.
His tip is for Claudio to return. As much as i loved him and the job he did, i don't want us to go backwards again.
The_don1
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“According to the excellent Spanish football expert, Graham Hunter, we have no chance of getting either Pep or Simeone.
His tip is for Claudio to return. As much as i loved him and the job he did, i don't want us to go backwards again.”

So we are saying a expert in football in Spain should be paid attention to when it comes to a manager who is working at club not in Spain and who a club (again not in Spain) might be looking at to get?

Have we any word on who the Turkish football experts think we should get?
The_don1
18-12-2015
But I too would not want him back.

He is a decent manager but a even more decent bloke and met him a few times and is a really nice guy so think he deserve better then to go though the treatment that we seem to give managers.

If people think he was treated harshly last time it will be nothing to the way we would treat him the second time around.

He is at a good club with from what I have seen a decent board so should stay where he is and have a chance of actually enjoying his job
Matt35
18-12-2015
So Tony Cascarino reckons alan pardew could be a possible manager for chelsea. Alan is doing great with palace no question but does he honestly think alan has a chance of even being on the list never mind getting it..
The_don1
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by Matt35:
“So Tony Cascarino reckons alan pardew could be a possible manager for chelsea. Alan is doing great with palace no question but does he honestly think alan has a chance of even being on the list never mind getting it..”

I am not sure we should take his opinion who is going to get the job as we should the bloke behind the counter at your local newsagents
Matt35
18-12-2015
How come chelsea don`t get guus full time instead of just until end of the season?
The_don1
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by Matt35:
“How come chelsea don`t get guus full time instead of just until end of the season?”

Not sure he wants a full time job.

He seems more interested in international jobs where its not a full time job coming up to 70 I don't really blame him. With his track record he can earn just as much money doing a international job then a club one and a massive amount of less work and hassle
Jokanovic
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Do you even watch much football? If you did you'd be well aware that lining up with one striker is the norm these days and has been for quite some time, it's not exclusive to Mourinho.

Bloody school holidays. Tip Top's bad enough but we've got this clown back again now.”

It's almost as if they are the same person...........
alancracker
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Do you even watch much football? If you did you'd be well aware that lining up with one striker is the norm these days and has been for quite some time, it's not exclusive to Mourinho.

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Absolutely - it is lazy analysis which equates one striker with a defensive mentality. I used to think it but over the years it has been shown to be wrong so many times - when we won 1-4 away at MCFC which is perhaps one of the most impressive performances of the season none of our 4 strikers (Studge, Benteke, Ings or Origi) started the game and it was a stunning of attacking football and I'm sure there are many other examples from other teams too.
Eddie hunter
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by alancracker:
“Absolutely - it is lazy analysis which equates one striker with a defensive mentality. I used to think it but over the years it has been shown to be wrong so many times - when we won 1-4 away at MCFC which is perhaps one of the most impressive performances of the season none of our 4 strikers (Studge, Benteke, Ings or Origi) started the game and it was a stunning of attacking football and I'm sure there are many other examples from other teams too.”

Im pretty sure you are using your teams striking situation to illustrate a point in a rival clubs thread.

Perfect valid I'm sure you'll agree.

Until you consider that when I did the self same thing in the Liverpool Thread you couldn't wait to tell me where to go.

Thanks for that.
alancracker
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by Eddie hunter:
“Im pretty sure you are using your teams striking situation to illustrate a point in a rival clubs thread.

Perfect valid I'm sure you'll agree.

Until you consider that when I did the self same thing in the Liverpool Thread you couldn't wait to tell me where to go.

Thanks for that.”

Yes perfectly valid.

Are you following me round to comment on what I say and have a go? - cos that's what it feels like.

The situation on the LFC thread was different - if you want to debate it PM me cos I do not want to fill the CFC thread with back and fro between me and you.
Eddie hunter
18-12-2015
Originally Posted by alancracker:
“Yes perfectly valid.

Are you following me round to comment on what I say and have a go? - cos that's what it feels like.

The situation on the LFC thread was different - if you want to debate it PM me cos I do not want to fill the CFC thread with back and fro between me and you.”

Nope not following you around. Posted on the thread too. No need to take it to Pm or have any back or forth just found your spectacular double standards worthy of being pointed out.

Do continue as you were I'm sure the Chelsea regulars will be more welcoming to you than you were to me.
batdude_uk1
18-12-2015
So back to the football on the pitch, any of you Chelsea fans confident of a win in your next match now that Jose has gone?

Will the players start performing now that they seemingly have got their way, and gotten rid of the manager?
The_don1
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“So back to the football on the pitch, any of you Chelsea fans confident of a win in your next match now that Jose has gone?

Will the players start performing now that they seemingly have got their way, and gotten rid of the manager?”

Either one and we still have major problems. Win and we have a bunch of unprofessional primadonnas on our hands and lose and the manager is not the problem.

But it is Sunderland at home so either should not make a difference and we should still win. If we do get Guss I hope he realises he has not got top top players like last time but has more in common with his previous job and a bunch of players who could have the ability but as of yet lack the ability to convert that on to the pitch.
Tip top 2
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Either one and we still have major problems. Win and we have a bunch of unprofessional primadonnas on our hands and lose and the manager is not the problem.

But it is Sunderland at home so either should not make a difference and we should still win. If we do get Guss I hope he realises he has not got top top players like last time but has more in common with his previous job and a bunch of players who could have the ability but as of yet lack the ability to convert that on to the pitch.”

Are you talking abut the players that won two trophies last season in style? And then strengthened with Pedro, Kennedy and others? Those players who are really not that good?

You constantly said that Mourhino should have stayed. What's your view now? The whole squad was wrong, but Mourhino was right? The manager who stuck with Ivanovic when he was constantly leaking goals, the manager who publicly humiliated a woman doctor for trying to protect one of the best players in the world?

The manager who turned on other players because they weren't his favourites? but refused to criticise other players because he liked them more. That manager should have stayed?

The manager who called another world class manager a specialist in failure? and swore at other managers because they had just beaten Chelsea.

I always said he should have left, and a long time before he eventually did.
The_don1
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Tip top 2:
“Are you talking abut the players that won two trophies last season in style? And then strengthened with Pedro, Kennedy and others? Those players who are really not that good?

You constantly said that Mourhino should have stayed. What's your view now? The whole squad was wrong, but Mourhino was right? The manager who stuck with Ivanovic when he was constantly leaking goals, the manager who publicly humiliated a woman doctor for trying to protect one of the best players in the world?

The manager who turned on other players because they weren't his favourites? but refused to criticise other players because he liked them more. That manager should have stayed?

The manager who called another world class manager a specialist in failure? and swore at other managers because they had just beaten Chelsea.

I always said he should have left, and a long time before he eventually did.”

I have no wish to take part in childish games.

If you was willing to discuses anything to do with Chelsea and Jose in a intelligent and sensible way like others who thought Jose should go then that would be fine but you have continued over a number of threads shown an unwillingness to do so.

And yes I thought Jose a multi title winning manager should stay
carefree_blue
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Either one and we still have major problems. Win and we have a bunch of unprofessional primadonnas on our hands and lose and the manager is not the problem.”

Yep that sums it up. Either the bad form continues and the players need replacing because they're not mentally tough enough, or there's a sudden upturn in form and they still need ditching due to their lack of professionalism.
The_don1
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Yep that sums it up. Either the bad form continues and the players need replacing because they're not mentally tough enough, or there's a sudden upturn in form and they still need ditching due to their lack of professionalism.”

The problem is with the culture of sacking that is at Chelsea who will be impartial enough to take the decisions needed? The people who bought them? The people who appointed those people to do their positions? Would some of them get jobs of the same level at another top club in football? or would they have to go down a level (or more), Roman needs to bring in people completely independent on a contractor basis to look at ever aspect of the running of the club from top to bottom as no matter who is to blame be it Jose or the players we have just made to many mistakes when it comes to recruitment be it managers or players
carefree_blue
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by Tip top 2:
“You constantly said that Mourhino should have stayed. What's your view now? The whole squad was wrong, but Mourhino was right? The manager who stuck with Ivanovic when he was constantly leaking goals, the manager who publicly humiliated a woman doctor for trying to protect one of the best players in the world?”

Do you know why he had little choice but to stick with Ivanovic? Because Felipe Luis went and that clown you were praising for his interview the other day replaced him with a left-back that Mourinho clearly didn't rate and from watching him play you can see why - Rahman's nowhere near good enough.
carefree_blue
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“The problem is with the culture of sacking that is at Chelsea who will be impartial enough to take the decisions needed? The people who bought them? The people who appointed those people to do their positions? Would some of them get jobs of the same level at another top club in football? or would they have to go down a level (or more), Roman needs to bring in people completely independent on a contractor basis to look at ever aspect of the running of the club from top to bottom as no matter who is to blame be it Jose or the players we have just made to many mistakes when it comes to recruitment be it managers or players”

Agreed. After being in dire need of stability and feeling like we were finally starting to move in the right direction it's very frustrating to have it all ripped up again and starting all over. We can't keep making the same mistakes. The fact that it's like groundhog day means that other positions in the club need reviewing as you say.
RichmondBlue
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“So back to the football on the pitch, any of you Chelsea fans confident of a win in your next match now that Jose has gone?

Will the players start performing now that they seemingly have got their way, and gotten rid of the manager?”

I'm far from confident. It's going to be very interesting to see the reaction of our fans at the game. I was looking at a fan site where nearly 80% voted that getting rid of Mourinho was the wrong decision..and that was from a total vote of over 7000, a considerable sample.
Obviously the club comes first, but the suspicion that several players may have not have been giving 100% (regardless of form, that's a different thing entirely) has left a bitter taste for many supporters I've spoken to. Even fans who aren't too sorry to see the back of Jose can't accept players not giving everything for the team.
As I say, it could be a strange atmosphere.
roddydogs
19-12-2015
Cmon lands guess the team for today, Remy not Costa? No Ivan?
Jokanovic
19-12-2015
If it starts going wrong I can see a bad atmosphere. Seen a lot of stuff on social media with lots of punters unhappy.
It won't be Rafa toxic of course but it really depends on those prima donnas and how they perform.
The_don1
19-12-2015
Originally Posted by roddydogs:
“Cmon lands guess the team for today, Remy not Costa? No Ivan?”

Have they said who is picking the team?
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