Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“It's not as simple as that though. You can play a style like that if you are willing to press off the ball like Barcelona do. The issue is that we are unable to pressurise for long periods because in order to do that you need to play a high line to stay compact between the lines, high line + John Terry=disaster as AVB surely realised. The central midfield players ends up being disconnected with the 4 attackers because of this, so often teams find it easy to play past Chelsea and hit Chelsea on the counter/direct football(Everton and Liverpool matches at stamford bridge)
Really the issue is that with John Terry, Branislav Ivanovic and Gary Cahill who have been taught to be reactive defenders(i.e. backing off challenges so that they're not beat for pace) rather than proactive defenders(i.e. Sergio Ramos, Thiago Silva, etc.) the defence is always going to struggle playing a more attacking style of play(hence the revert to types).
A style like Barcelona's works because from the back up to the front they are tactically drilled to play that style(rather than half taught then going back to type after every bad defeat like Mourinho did). If Barcelona defenders were backing off and sitting back like Chelsea did and the front 3 was completely disconnected to the middle three like Chelsea have with their 6 defenders and 4 attackers at times you end up with the issues that Chelsea have.
Regardless, that is no excuse for Chelsea's league position this season. Player recruitment is a pathetic excuse for Chelsea being 1 point off relegation in december, it's an excuse for Chelsea not making top 4, but not for being in a relegation dogfight in december.”
You also have to remember that Barcelona's tiki-taka style began with Johan Cruyff during his tenure as manager from 1988 to 1996. It's taken years to develop. Their youth academy concentrated on producing generations of technically talented (often physically small) players with excellent touch, vision and passing, who excel at maintaining possession. You can't hope to emulate that in a few years by trying to buy players who appear to fit the style.
As you say, the system is based around possession and a high press. As Pep Guardiola said "You win the ball back when there are thirty metres to their goal not eighty". But that takes players who know the system inside out. I've always said, it was probably more remarkable to watch Barcelona without the ball than with it. The way they hunted in packs to get the ball back, few (if any) teams have ever matched them. It's exhausting apart from anything else, and I don't think it really works in the PL.
That doesn't mean you can't borrow things from the system and adept them accordingly. Which I guess was Mourinho's intention. But our roots are in playing a different style, and don't forget Barcelona themselves are questioning whether the days of tiki-taka are over.
With the strikers they possess now, they could play any bloody system.