The hazard fee would be a world record.
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Originally Posted by The_don1:
“To simplistic to blame one party.
The players was to blame for not being professional (am not saying it was or was not because of them liking or not liking the manager, Cesc for example has rarely produced a full season of top performances throughout his career).
The club was to blame for not bringing in new players and in my view going on a post and pre-season tour and not seeing the effect that would have on our fitness at the start of the season, It was clear to see throughout pre-season very few of our first team players was anywhere near a competitive match fitness
Jose should have handled things in a different manner at times.
It's much like the situation at Man Utd, Only a fool would blame the manager 100% and a bigger one who would think LVG is a bad manager.
Clubs like Chelsea and Man Utd,City etc are just too big for such massive failings to be one parties fault”
“To simplistic to blame one party.
The players was to blame for not being professional (am not saying it was or was not because of them liking or not liking the manager, Cesc for example has rarely produced a full season of top performances throughout his career).
The club was to blame for not bringing in new players and in my view going on a post and pre-season tour and not seeing the effect that would have on our fitness at the start of the season, It was clear to see throughout pre-season very few of our first team players was anywhere near a competitive match fitness
Jose should have handled things in a different manner at times.
It's much like the situation at Man Utd, Only a fool would blame the manager 100% and a bigger one who would think LVG is a bad manager.
Clubs like Chelsea and Man Utd,City etc are just too big for such massive failings to be one parties fault”
Have you seen LVG's managerial record because since the turn of the century it has been questionable at best?
He got Barça a point above the relegation zone in Xmas in 02-03. He failed to get Holland to qualify for the 2002 world cup iirc and he nearly failed to get Champions League football with Bayern Munich of all teams...
I don't know about you but I think the problem with United most likely lies with Van Gaal.
Similar way to how José was a big part of the problem this season. Like what he did to Eva Carneiro seems to be an almost sackable offence in itself(although we need to await the results of the court case) and then there was the extremely questionable team selections like the one vs Liverpool at home, the persistent use of Ivanovic at RB despite him churning out terrible performances defensively the entire calendar year and more.
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“???
Chelsea got 30M for Lukaku(suitable fee considering his age) and 50M for David Luiz and you're questioning whether they can get a suitable fee?
Anyway Hazard ain't leaving. He also was responsible for the first 2 goals vs City yesterday and played Willian in perfectly for his goal. It's an issue of fitness for Hazard more than anything. Which is what is causing him to slow down the play. He's not playing with as much intensity as last season which is the real problem.”
“???
Chelsea got 30M for Lukaku(suitable fee considering his age) and 50M for David Luiz and you're questioning whether they can get a suitable fee?
Anyway Hazard ain't leaving. He also was responsible for the first 2 goals vs City yesterday and played Willian in perfectly for his goal. It's an issue of fitness for Hazard more than anything. Which is what is causing him to slow down the play. He's not playing with as much intensity as last season which is the real problem.”
But we are dealing with a very different type of transfer here.
Dealing with a club like Everton would be very different to dealing with a club like Real.
Also Luiz would have more then happy to stay or go, So we was not dealing with a player who was pushing to leave.
We have shown we can do good deals (both in and out) but a sale of a player like Hazzard would be very different and very difficult, A sensible fee would be around 60-70m and should be more then workable but Real can be on their day be masters of transfers, Would be more confident if just dealing with PSG.
Not saying he will go but if Real/PSG come in for him and its the 60-70m or higher its an offer we would have to at least look at.
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“Have you seen LVG's managerial record because since the turn of the century it has been questionable at best?
He got Barça a point above the relegation zone in Xmas in 02-03. He failed to get Holland to qualify for the 2002 world cup iirc and he nearly failed to get Champions League football with Bayern Munich of all teams...
I don't know about you but I think the problem with United most likely lies with Van Gaal.
Similar way to how José was a big part of the problem this season. Like what he did to Eva Carneiro seems to be an almost sackable offence in itself(although we need to await the results of the court case) and then there was the extremely questionable team selections like the one vs Liverpool at home, the persistent use of Ivanovic at RB despite him churning out terrible performances defensively the entire calendar year and more.”
“Have you seen LVG's managerial record because since the turn of the century it has been questionable at best?
He got Barça a point above the relegation zone in Xmas in 02-03. He failed to get Holland to qualify for the 2002 world cup iirc and he nearly failed to get Champions League football with Bayern Munich of all teams...
I don't know about you but I think the problem with United most likely lies with Van Gaal.
Similar way to how José was a big part of the problem this season. Like what he did to Eva Carneiro seems to be an almost sackable offence in itself(although we need to await the results of the court case) and then there was the extremely questionable team selections like the one vs Liverpool at home, the persistent use of Ivanovic at RB despite him churning out terrible performances defensively the entire calendar year and more.”
Utd's transfer policy (like at Chelsea the manager is only one voice out of many) has to be questioned since SAF left, Allowing the two people who ran either sides of the business at the same time was also a massive mistake at Utd, Any business would suffer if you let such key personnel walk away at the same time. Of course LVG has to take a big part of the issue but they still have a number of other issues to deal with. A business with as many parts like Chelsea and Utd don't fall as far as both teams have just down to the manager. If we had been down to 4th or 5th then yes but its more then who is being picked and where they are playing
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Don't forget, it wasn't long ago that some people (not on here) were suggesting that we'd need to get rid of most of the team.
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The notion of that in itself is ridiculous though. Like what kinda person seriously thinks Chelsea needed a revamp.
Matuidi would be great to have though. I think Chelsea and PSG are equal strength teams regardless of form, their midfield is better balanced though.
What do people think of Ivanovic at CB? Think he's a viable option until Christensen develops as a first teamer. Zouma's obviously first team material too.
Don't forget, it wasn't long ago that some people (not on here) were suggesting that we'd need to get rid of most of the team.
[/QUOTE]The notion of that in itself is ridiculous though. Like what kinda person seriously thinks Chelsea needed a revamp.
Matuidi would be great to have though. I think Chelsea and PSG are equal strength teams regardless of form, their midfield is better balanced though.
What do people think of Ivanovic at CB? Think he's a viable option until Christensen develops as a first teamer. Zouma's obviously first team material too.
Zouma (depending on return from injury) has to be first choice centreback next season. He has come on massively this season and has shown an awful lot of maturity and intelligence in a very difficult season.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Not saying he will go but if Real/PSG come in for him and its the 60-70m or higher its an offer we would have to at least look at.”
“Not saying he will go but if Real/PSG come in for him and its the 60-70m or higher its an offer we would have to at least look at.”
He is a great player and a wonderful asset.
However every player has a price, as clubs are a business. Ronaldo and messi have a price, both in terms of transfer fee and wages.
To get hazard, i believe they must offer a record transfer fee - 85 million because of the contract he is tied down to.
But 60 to 70 is the appropriate price for such a player.
Should we sell him? No.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Zouma (depending on return from injury) has to be first choice centreback next season. He has come on massively this season and has shown an awful lot of maturity and intelligence in a very difficult season.”
“Zouma (depending on return from injury) has to be first choice centreback next season. He has come on massively this season and has shown an awful lot of maturity and intelligence in a very difficult season.”
Quite agree.
Lets hope the injury doesnt bother him, and he returns the same player.
he IS our best defender
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“He is a great player and a wonderful asset.
However every player has a price, as clubs are a business. Ronaldo and messi have a price, both in terms of transfer fee and wages.
To get hazard, i believe they must offer a record transfer fee - 85 million because of the contract he is tied down to.
But 60 to 70 is the appropriate price for such a player.
Should we sell him? No.”
“He is a great player and a wonderful asset.
However every player has a price, as clubs are a business. Ronaldo and messi have a price, both in terms of transfer fee and wages.
To get hazard, i believe they must offer a record transfer fee - 85 million because of the contract he is tied down to.
But 60 to 70 is the appropriate price for such a player.
Should we sell him? No.”
It depends on him.
If he wants to go (and I would not blame him) then yes we should. If he is happy to stay and continues his return to form (if it stands still we need to look at it) then no.
End of the season is the time to make decisions like that
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“What do people think of Ivanovic at CB? Think he's a viable option until Christensen develops as a first teamer. Zouma's obviously first team material too.”
“What do people think of Ivanovic at CB? Think he's a viable option until Christensen develops as a first teamer. Zouma's obviously first team material too.”
He's ok, certainly preferable there than playing at RB (which he should only cover for if Azpi is ruled out for any reason). Think we still need to bring in at least one more CB though, unless Miazga is good enough / ready to be considered one of our options for next season.
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“What do people think of Ivanovic at CB? Think he's a viable option until Christensen develops as a first teamer. Zouma's obviously first team material too.”
“What do people think of Ivanovic at CB? Think he's a viable option until Christensen develops as a first teamer. Zouma's obviously first team material too.”
Ivanovic did remarkably well converting to a RB, and then going on to become one of the best in the PL. But he's always looked more of a CB to me. He doesn't have the build of a full back, once a clever winger got the wrong side of him (easier said than done mind you) he was in trouble with his slow recovery and ability to turn.
So yes, I think he's a viable option at CB for the remainder of this season if not longer. I'd take him over Demichelis any day.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Utd's transfer policy (like at Chelsea the manager is only one voice out of many) has to be questioned since SAF left, Allowing the two people who ran either sides of the business at the same time was also a massive mistake at Utd, Any business would suffer if you let such key personnel walk away at the same time. Of course LVG has to take a big part of the issue but they still have a number of other issues to deal with. A business with as many parts like Chelsea and Utd don't fall as far as both teams have just down to the manager. If we had been down to 4th or 5th then yes but its more then who is being picked and where they are playing”
“Utd's transfer policy (like at Chelsea the manager is only one voice out of many) has to be questioned since SAF left, Allowing the two people who ran either sides of the business at the same time was also a massive mistake at Utd, Any business would suffer if you let such key personnel walk away at the same time. Of course LVG has to take a big part of the issue but they still have a number of other issues to deal with. A business with as many parts like Chelsea and Utd don't fall as far as both teams have just down to the manager. If we had been down to 4th or 5th then yes but its more then who is being picked and where they are playing”
Are you trying to say that Chelsea's players are not good enough then? Because that myth's been debunked in the second half of this season clearly.
Yeah the board/Mourinho could have not let De Bruyne go or make Lukaku be second choice striker but for the most part player recruitment has been excellent the past few years at Chelsea. Mourinho going all out for a defensive player that Chelsea didn't exactly require(assuming his intention was for Terry to stay) in the first place doesn't change that fact that player recruitment and the fee Chelsea have got for players has been great. Pato signing is questionable but it's only a loan for cover.
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“Are you trying to say that Chelsea's players are not good enough then? Because that myth's been debunked in the second half of this season clearly. ”
“Are you trying to say that Chelsea's players are not good enough then? Because that myth's been debunked in the second half of this season clearly. ”
I don't think it has been debunked yet, let alone clearly. We've drawn more PL games than we've won since Guus took over, and have a deficit to overturn to stay in the CL. There's been some improvement in recent weeks but the jury's still very much out on some of these players. Let's see where we are at the end of the season.
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“I don't think it has been debunked yet, let alone clearly. We've drawn more PL games than we've won since Guus took over, and have a deficit to overturn to stay in the CL. There's been some improvement in recent weeks but the jury's still very much out on some of these players. Let's see where we are at the end of the season.”
“I don't think it has been debunked yet, let alone clearly. We've drawn more PL games than we've won since Guus took over, and have a deficit to overturn to stay in the CL. There's been some improvement in recent weeks but the jury's still very much out on some of these players. Let's see where we are at the end of the season.”
It's PSG who haven't lost a league game this season. Being 2-1 down with a good chance of progressing is a result that Chelsea really should be happy with. You also include the fact that the team were clearly low on confidence which takes a while to pick up. You'd say that the team are playing with a lot more confidence and freedom.
In all honesty just add a good quality box to box player and use a proper fullback combination there is very little issue with the team. In a defensive sense you have the added solidarity and physicality and offensively you have a player that is very good at transition(although that's not a problem when Willian is in the side).
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“Are you trying to say that Chelsea's players are not good enough then? Because that myth's been debunked in the second half of this season clearly.
Yeah the board/Mourinho could have not let De Bruyne go or make Lukaku be second choice striker but for the most part player recruitment has been excellent the past few years at Chelsea. Mourinho going all out for a defensive player that Chelsea didn't exactly require(assuming his intention was for Terry to stay) in the first place doesn't change that fact that player recruitment and the fee Chelsea have got for players has been great. Pato signing is questionable but it's only a loan for cover.”
“Are you trying to say that Chelsea's players are not good enough then? Because that myth's been debunked in the second half of this season clearly.
Yeah the board/Mourinho could have not let De Bruyne go or make Lukaku be second choice striker but for the most part player recruitment has been excellent the past few years at Chelsea. Mourinho going all out for a defensive player that Chelsea didn't exactly require(assuming his intention was for Terry to stay) in the first place doesn't change that fact that player recruitment and the fee Chelsea have got for players has been great. Pato signing is questionable but it's only a loan for cover.”
Good enough for what? A credible title challenge next season? Really? You have far more faith in them then I do and far too little trust in the other teams to improve their teams.
A few ok results against decent teams and very good results against poor teams is a improvement from the start of the season but is still far far from good enough.
Do you really think behind the scenes staff are the best we can get? They are the cream of the football world? If you was running a top club in Europe would you really go all out to recruit Michael Emenalo? Ok he has a decent job but is that really good enough? Is there a single one of them if any top club was looking to replace a current staff member they would look at? You might think so but I don't. We have done a ok job but should always strive for more.
While I don't think Pepe will have the instant results expected but City got the sort of people he likes to have around him, When he walks in on his first day many of very important jobs would have been done. Ed Woodward has been at Utd for a while now and is slowly learning what is needed at Utd What will our new manager walk into?
We are coming into a very important time for Chelsea and while we have got by with the current set up, Do you think seriously we can not do better? Doing a decent job should never be enough, Ok you found a top class player and got him for 25m? Why did you not get him for 15M? Ok you sold a decent player for 50m? Why not 60m?
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“It's PSG who haven't lost a league game this season. Being 2-1 down with a good chance of progressing is a result that Chelsea really should be happy with. You also include the fact that the team were clearly low on confidence which takes a while to pick up. You'd say that the team are playing with a lot more confidence and freedom.
In all honesty just add a good quality box to box player and use a proper fullback combination there is very little issue with the team. In a defensive sense you have the added solidarity and physicality and offensively you have a player that is very good at transition(although that's not a problem when Willian is in the side).”
“It's PSG who haven't lost a league game this season. Being 2-1 down with a good chance of progressing is a result that Chelsea really should be happy with. You also include the fact that the team were clearly low on confidence which takes a while to pick up. You'd say that the team are playing with a lot more confidence and freedom.
In all honesty just add a good quality box to box player and use a proper fullback combination there is very little issue with the team. In a defensive sense you have the added solidarity and physicality and offensively you have a player that is very good at transition(although that's not a problem when Willian is in the side).”
You should never be happy with losing a game when at the level Chelsea should be at with the investment over the last 10 years.
Add this add that, If this if that, They lack this they lack that, If that chance went in all excuses.
Yes it was a decent result but decent is not good enough
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“I don't think it has been debunked yet, let alone clearly. We've drawn more PL games than we've won since Guus took over, and have a deficit to overturn to stay in the CL. There's been some improvement in recent weeks but the jury's still very much out on some of these players. Let's see where we are at the end of the season.”
“I don't think it has been debunked yet, let alone clearly. We've drawn more PL games than we've won since Guus took over, and have a deficit to overturn to stay in the CL. There's been some improvement in recent weeks but the jury's still very much out on some of these players. Let's see where we are at the end of the season.”
Making any decisions or judging players now is pointless.
Yes there has been improvements but that was always going to come.
Hazzard playing ok but lets see if that improves as his fitness does.
Baba has looked decent but needs to improve from a defence point of view before he can be consider a defender who want to be single points from the title.
Cesc needs to show he can play for an entire season at a decent level.
There are still to many questions to go down the road of keeping players or bringing new players in.
Making decisions now is a poor business plan
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“You should never be happy with losing a game when at the level Chelsea should be at with the investment over the last 10 years.
Add this add that, If this if that, They lack this they lack that, If that chance went in all excuses.
Yes it was a decent result but decent is not good enough”
“You should never be happy with losing a game when at the level Chelsea should be at with the investment over the last 10 years.
Add this add that, If this if that, They lack this they lack that, If that chance went in all excuses.
Yes it was a decent result but decent is not good enough”
That's the key point. We were in a position where with just a couple of additions to our squad every season we should have been dining at the top table continuously.
We did manage to maintain a leading position in the PL, qualifying for Europe every season and usually making a decent fist of challenging for the title. But we never made that extra push to join Europe's elite which seemed possible 7/8 years ago.
You have to wonder if that's still possible with the wealth of the Manchester clubs, or even Arsenal if they decided to open their war chest. Perhaps we missed our chance ?
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“On,y one team can win, and we are the current champions.
No team will ever dominate again”
“On,y one team can win, and we are the current champions.
No team will ever dominate again”
If we don't win it, we should at least be close to winning it. Not fudging around in the bottom half of the league, 20 points behind the league leaders.
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“If we don't win it, we should at least be close to winning it. Not fudging around in the bottom half of the league, 20 points behind the league leaders.”
“If we don't win it, we should at least be close to winning it. Not fudging around in the bottom half of the league, 20 points behind the league leaders.”
That's the thing.
This could be the 3rd season in recent times we have finished double figures from the winners. It don't matter if we have won league titles,Champions Leagues FA Cups etc between those years. Who is to blame for that? I not even sure how many managers have been in charge of us during those seasons.
Dominate? No
Be a credible title challenging team season after season? Yes.
We want the best players, We argue who we want to be manager yet when it comes to a equally important factor ensuring our success we are happy to go with the status quo.
Ron Gouley left and we replace them with someone who had only joined the club recently in any credible role, David Gill leaves Utd and they replace him with someone who had worked at the club for at least 5 years (I think longer) in a very important role. City bring in people who have a excellent relationship with their incoming manager and who have links with Barca.
Are managers to blame for when clubs fail? With the level of investment over the last few years of course are the players? Yes of course but so are the people working in other very important parts of the company.
Ask any top manager what is one of the most important factors in long term success and a top class behind the screnes staff will be high on the list. For example as much as Wenger was responsible for the success years ago David Dien was just as important.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Good enough for what? A credible title challenge next season? Really? You have far more faith in them then I do and far too little trust in the other teams to improve their teams.
A few ok results against decent teams and very good results against poor teams is a improvement from the start of the season but is still far far from good enough.
Do you really think behind the scenes staff are the best we can get? They are the cream of the football world? If you was running a top club in Europe would you really go all out to recruit Michael Emenalo? Ok he has a decent job but is that really good enough? Is there a single one of them if any top club was looking to replace a current staff member they would look at? You might think so but I don't. We have done a ok job but should always strive for more.
While I don't think Pepe will have the instant results expected but City got the sort of people he likes to have around him, When he walks in on his first day many of very important jobs would have been done. Ed Woodward has been at Utd for a while now and is slowly learning what is needed at Utd What will our new manager walk into?
We are coming into a very important time for Chelsea and while we have got by with the current set up, Do you think seriously we can not do better? Doing a decent job should never be enough, Ok you found a top class player and got him for 25m? Why did you not get him for 15M? Ok you sold a decent player for 50m? Why not 60m?”
“Good enough for what? A credible title challenge next season? Really? You have far more faith in them then I do and far too little trust in the other teams to improve their teams.
A few ok results against decent teams and very good results against poor teams is a improvement from the start of the season but is still far far from good enough.
Do you really think behind the scenes staff are the best we can get? They are the cream of the football world? If you was running a top club in Europe would you really go all out to recruit Michael Emenalo? Ok he has a decent job but is that really good enough? Is there a single one of them if any top club was looking to replace a current staff member they would look at? You might think so but I don't. We have done a ok job but should always strive for more.
While I don't think Pepe will have the instant results expected but City got the sort of people he likes to have around him, When he walks in on his first day many of very important jobs would have been done. Ed Woodward has been at Utd for a while now and is slowly learning what is needed at Utd What will our new manager walk into?
We are coming into a very important time for Chelsea and while we have got by with the current set up, Do you think seriously we can not do better? Doing a decent job should never be enough, Ok you found a top class player and got him for 25m? Why did you not get him for 15M? Ok you sold a decent player for 50m? Why not 60m?”
The behind the scenes staff could be better but this is all on the basis of one bad season which is already being rectified. Credible title challenge is definitely on the cards. It's easy to complain when the team isn't doing well but Chelsea are in a very good position to win the title next season. Look at e.g. Dortmund last season who were in the exact same position as Chelsea. They're in a very good position to win a double now and are guaranteed CL football next season.
So beating Arsenal away from home 2-0(who are in a very good position to win the PL) is an OK result? PSG have not lost in their league this season either and Chelsea are in a 50/50 position to win the tie. All the PSG Chelsea games have been close to 50-50 so you'd say Chelsea are on par in europe as they have been in previous seasons. 2-1 away against the joint 4th best team in europe is not a bad result either considering Chelsea have not won at Park de Princes in the knockout rounds vs blancs team.
David Luiz for 50M is ridiculous in itself so I don't get why you are saying get more money for the likes of David Luiz when he's nowhere near the best CB in the world and went for the world record as a CB.
Ramires went for £25M this January... Like really the on the pitch performance this season hasn't been good enough but it's clearly improved and will continue to improve next season but all of you are panicking. Last time Chelsea were in a bad situation with the team they went and got Hazard/Oscar/Azpilicueta and co. What makes you think this won't happen again, especially with a stronger team this time round and an actually financially stable team? Even with the outlay of 40M from lack of CL football, that is automatically cancelled by the Yokohama tyres deal.
Like I said already on this thread. Add a box to box midfielder, use one of the million loan wingers for depth and possibly a CB and the team is easily strong enough to win the title.
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Making any decisions or judging players now is pointless.
Yes there has been improvements but that was always going to come.
Hazzard playing ok but lets see if that improves as his fitness does.
Baba has looked decent but needs to improve from a defence point of view before he can be consider a defender who want to be single points from the title.
Cesc needs to show he can play for an entire season at a decent level.
There are still to many questions to go down the road of keeping players or bringing new players in.
Making decisions now is a poor business plan”
“Making any decisions or judging players now is pointless.
Yes there has been improvements but that was always going to come.
Hazzard playing ok but lets see if that improves as his fitness does.
Baba has looked decent but needs to improve from a defence point of view before he can be consider a defender who want to be single points from the title.
Cesc needs to show he can play for an entire season at a decent level.
There are still to many questions to go down the road of keeping players or bringing new players in.
Making decisions now is a poor business plan”
Yeah Hazard's issue is clearly a fitness issue currently when before it looked like more.
Seen worse individual defenders than Rahman in a title winning/challenging side(City use Kolarov and Clichy...). Rahman is 21 years old and inconsistencies in form is common.
Cesc has never been able to play a full season at top form and that was clear when Chelsea bought him so unsure about the relevancy of that comment, especially when it's clear Chelsea need a box to box midfielder and will probably buy one in the summer to lessen Fabregas' load. If Ramires was actually good enough to play consistently in that position for cover then Fabregas would be able to play a whole season with more consistent performances.
The main thing of course is to keep the current squad but I don't think that is a problem.
I'm not sure if you lot are expecting Verratti and Bale but football doesn't work like that.
Our number one summer priority should be a CB to partner zouma next season.
And to ship out the garbage that is pato (will he ever play a single minute?) and falcao, replace them with a costa like striker.
And to ship out the garbage that is pato (will he ever play a single minute?) and falcao, replace them with a costa like striker.
Originally Posted by jamtheman:
“The behind the scenes staff could be better but this is all on the basis of one bad season which is already being rectified. Credible title challenge is definitely on the cards. It's easy to complain when the team isn't doing well but Chelsea are in a very good position to win the title next season. Look at e.g. Dortmund last season who were in the exact same position as Chelsea. They're in a very good position to win a double now and are guaranteed CL football next season.
So beating Arsenal away from home 2-0(who are in a very good position to win the PL) is an OK result? PSG have not lost in their league this season either and Chelsea are in a 50/50 position to win the tie. All the PSG Chelsea games have been close to 50-50 so you'd say Chelsea are on par in europe as they have been in previous seasons. 2-1 away against the joint 4th best team in europe is not a bad result either considering Chelsea have not won at Park de Princes in the knockout rounds vs blancs team.
David Luiz for 50M is ridiculous in itself so I don't get why you are saying get more money for the likes of David Luiz when he's nowhere near the best CB in the world and went for the world record as a CB.
Ramires went for £25M this January... Like really the on the pitch performance this season hasn't been good enough but it's clearly improved and will continue to improve next season but all of you are panicking. Last time Chelsea were in a bad situation with the team they went and got Hazard/Oscar/Azpilicueta and co. What makes you think this won't happen again, especially with a stronger team this time round and an actually financially stable team? Even with the outlay of 40M from lack of CL football, that is automatically cancelled by the Yokohama tyres deal.
Like I said already on this thread. Add a box to box midfielder, use one of the million loan wingers for depth and possibly a CB and the team is easily strong enough to win the title.”
“The behind the scenes staff could be better but this is all on the basis of one bad season which is already being rectified. Credible title challenge is definitely on the cards. It's easy to complain when the team isn't doing well but Chelsea are in a very good position to win the title next season. Look at e.g. Dortmund last season who were in the exact same position as Chelsea. They're in a very good position to win a double now and are guaranteed CL football next season.
So beating Arsenal away from home 2-0(who are in a very good position to win the PL) is an OK result? PSG have not lost in their league this season either and Chelsea are in a 50/50 position to win the tie. All the PSG Chelsea games have been close to 50-50 so you'd say Chelsea are on par in europe as they have been in previous seasons. 2-1 away against the joint 4th best team in europe is not a bad result either considering Chelsea have not won at Park de Princes in the knockout rounds vs blancs team.
David Luiz for 50M is ridiculous in itself so I don't get why you are saying get more money for the likes of David Luiz when he's nowhere near the best CB in the world and went for the world record as a CB.
Ramires went for £25M this January... Like really the on the pitch performance this season hasn't been good enough but it's clearly improved and will continue to improve next season but all of you are panicking. Last time Chelsea were in a bad situation with the team they went and got Hazard/Oscar/Azpilicueta and co. What makes you think this won't happen again, especially with a stronger team this time round and an actually financially stable team? Even with the outlay of 40M from lack of CL football, that is automatically cancelled by the Yokohama tyres deal.
Like I said already on this thread. Add a box to box midfielder, use one of the million loan wingers for depth and possibly a CB and the team is easily strong enough to win the title.”
But its not one bad season, This is the 3rd season where we could finish double points from the title winners.
There is no point in talking about certain results from certain games. We need to look at the results as a whole and a few times over the last few years they have not been good enough with the resources available.
We should not be relying on things to improve after 10 years of massive investment and the best resources available all those things should be in place already
Dortmound play don't play in a competitive league.
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