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#6576 |
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It will be a blessing to miss out on the Europa League, but not the CL|
We will find it harder to attract the quality players we need without CL football. The top players are not small picture thinkers like that. They know that a team like Chelsea can afford to spend big (more so if we sell players like Hazzard) and the type of players they can attract is very likely to mean that any time out of the Champion's League is for a small window. They know that coming to Chelsea will help get the team into Champions League spots and if not they can just as easy get a transfer to another team if we don't |
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#6577 |
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And the simple facts remain in that we haven't been able to replace the great players we've lost in recent seasons with players of the same ability.
Those players we lost not only had top class ability, but the were also mentally and physically very strong and we had leaders on the pitch right the the spine of the team. Now, we have players that are not only not as gifted, but can be physically bullied, not mentally strong enough to withstand spells of pressure and lack the on-field leadership of our former greats. Pretty much the same thing happened to Arsenal, once when they lost Henry and Co. It's going to be difficult to get back those qualities, no matter how much money we throw at it, or who the manger is. I hope Conte gets us back to being a powerful and big physical team as we used to be. Not interested in tippy tappy football. |
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#6578 |
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Yes, we've done better than UTD. Just saying that both teams have fallen from what they once were.
We have done better because we have much better players The comment was Utd have team team of decent players and you said we had the same when the evidence disproves that entirely. You cannot just look at one small window (i.e this season) |
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It will be a blessing to miss out on the Europa League, but not the CL|
We will find it harder to attract the quality players we need without CL football. Also if you think our squad is nothing special as you said a few posts back, then it sounds like you don't think the club have done a good job at attracting quality players in recent years anyway. So what makes you think anything would have magically changed this summer, even with CL football on offer again? |
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Well I blame some of that with the obsession to try and be like Barcelona, the same way as Arsenal.
I hope Conte gets us back to being a powerful and big physical team as we used to be. Not interested in tippy tappy football. There are more teams after these type of players nowadays and teams are finding it more easy to hang on to those players. Its not as easy as it was . We have tried recently to find a happy medium and really have struggled to do so. I would like to see the new manger bring someone in with him for not the playing side of things but someone to connect him with the board and decision makers |
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Who'd have guessed? End of season.Contis got a lot to do.
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Looks like Diego Costa is going to get a lengthy ban for biting Gareth Barry
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He tried, don't think he actually did bite, teeth looked to have made contact then turned into a hug and a kiss when he realised he was about to be red carded
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#6584 |
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Wrong thread.
Delete. |
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#6585 |
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He tried, don't think he actually did bite, teeth looked to have made contact then turned into a hug and a kiss when he realised he was about to be red carded
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#6586 |
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Who'd have guessed? End of season.Contis got a lot to do.
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#6587 |
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I meant that Luk would score.
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Leicester will find it much tougher next season juggling domestic games with European ones, there's no way they'll finish in the top 4 again.
I'd be surprised if Liverpool don't make any improvement once Klopp starts bringing the players he wants in, but it'll take time for him to overhaul that squad. United can only improve if Mourinho takes over, but will continue going backwards if LVG sees out his contract. Spurs are anyone's guess. Will be interesting to see what sort of signings they make in the summer. |
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Looks like Diego Costa is going to get a lengthy ban for biting Gareth Barry
Nice try |
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Forgetting the non-biting incident, what an awful game !
I really can't think of anything positive to say about it at all. I suppose we have to hand it to Lukaku, his first goal was something a bit special. But our pathetic defence made it easy for him. But apart from that there was little football from either team. A scrappy, bad tempered affair, lacking in skill or technique. Never thought I'd say it, but I think I'll be glad when this season's over. |
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Except he didn't bite him.
Nice try |
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As soon as I saw Matic and Mikel were both in the starting line-up I knew it wasn't going to be our day. Guus seems to be the only person that thinks it's a good idea having those two play alongside each other.
Let's be honest, he's not done a good job this time around as interim, which really just shows that we might as well have given Mourinho till the end of the season and then re-evaluated things for what it was worth, as some of us thought should be the case before he was fired. |
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Sort of performance that summed up the season. Awful.
Really poor defensively. |
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As soon as I saw Matic and Mikel were both in the starting line-up I knew it wasn't going to be our day. Guus seems to be the only person that thinks it's a good idea having those two play alongside each other.
Let's be honest, he's not done a good job this time around as interim, which really just shows that we might as well have given Mourinho till the end of the season and then re-evaluated things for what it was worth, as some of us thought should be the case before he was fired. |
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As soon as I saw Matic and Mikel were both in the starting line-up I knew it wasn't going to be our day. Guus seems to be the only person that thinks it's a good idea having those two play alongside each other.
Let's be honest, he's not done a good job this time around as interim, which really just shows that we might as well have given Mourinho till the end of the season and then re-evaluated things for what it was worth, as some of us thought should be the case before he was fired. But I do think Guus has done more or less what we paid him for. We're still undefeated in the PL since his arrival and I don't think anyone honestly expected us to get any further in the CL. Yes, you could say he was partly to blame today. But it was such a crap performance all round that I hesitate to single him out for criticism. I'm hoping it will go down as "just one of those days". |
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I agree about Matic and Mikel, did we really need such a defensive set-up against Everton ? I don't really see the point in playing Kenedy as a LB either, give Rahman more games, we paid nearly £22m for the guy.
But I do think Guus has done more or less what we paid him for. We're still undefeated in the PL since his arrival and I don't think anyone honestly expected us to get any further in the CL. Yes, you could say he was partly to blame today. But it was such a crap performance all round that I hesitate to single him out for criticism. I'm hoping it will go down as "just one of those days". Looking at the overall picture though I don't think he's done a particularly decent job. Undefeated in the league counts for very little when most of those games have been drawn. I never believed we were in any genuine danger of going down with Mourinho in charge, so we seem to have gained nothing by making the change. |
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Let's wait and see what happens before we start saying what he did or not do
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He will probably get a couple of games. One for the sending off and the other for not leaving the pitch. There was no bite however much some people want there to be.
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Watch the footage. Clearly weird, but definitely no bite. The faux outrage and outright racism on the thread discussing this is awful.
Racism? Nah. |
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I agree about Matic and Mikel, did we really need such a defensive set-up against Everton ? I don't really see the point in playing Kenedy as a LB either, give Rahman more games, we paid nearly £22m for the guy.
But I do think Guus has done more or less what we paid him for. We're still undefeated in the PL since his arrival and I don't think anyone honestly expected us to get any further in the CL. Yes, you could say he was partly to blame today. But it was such a crap performance all round that I hesitate to single him out for criticism. I'm hoping it will go down as "just one of those days". We buy and sell Luiz, sell Bertrand and pay a huge amount for Rahman who is clearly not up to it. Too top it all Ake is playing excellently at Watford. We send up playing a left winger there....... |
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