|
||||||||
Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5) |
![]() |
| Thread Tools | Search this Thread |
|
|
#6601 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,735
|
Quote:
He will probably get a couple of games. One for the sending off and the other for not leaving the pitch. There was no bite however much some people want there to be.
|
|
|
|
|
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
|
|
|
#6602 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West London
Posts: 5,660
|
Quote:
They might factor in an extra game because he's already been banned earlier in the season. Doesn't really matter though, as the remaining games should just be about giving the young players as much game time as possible.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6603 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,735
|
Quote:
And it will probably do him a favour. Will be fit for Spain
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6604 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,434
|
Quote:
Watch the footage. Clearly weird, but definitely no bite. The faux outrage and outright racism on the thread discussing this is awful.
What happened is not important, what matters is if he is charged and found guilty of something, once that has been decided then at least we have something to discuss until then trying to hold a discussion with people who's main views are "he looks like something out of a gangster film" is as big of a waste of time as trying to find a intelligent conversation on TOWIE |
|
|
|
|
|
#6605 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West London
Posts: 5,660
|
Quote:
Probably will. On another note, I wonder if we'll ever see Pato play for us? What a bizarre signing that was, bringing in someone who was clearly a long way off being match fit.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6606 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: A Sound Expert
Posts: 13,881
|
Quote:
Throw in Falcao and it's just another two transfer disasters
The blame is with jose. Same agent as Falcao. And if course, getting rid of Lukaku |
|
|
|
|
|
#6607 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,434
|
Quote:
Absolutely.
The blame is with jose. Same agent as Falcao. And if course, getting rid of Lukaku Lukaku is still not good enough for first choice striker at Chelsea. He is at the level he deserves to be |
|
|
|
|
|
#6608 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Richmond, Surrey.
Posts: 13,814
|
Quote:
Maybe so but it's not important. It like many things in today's game just a bunch of people talking nonsense BUT before we start saying there was a bite or not or this happened or did not happen we should wait and see what happens otherwise their faux outrage is no different to our comments saying there was no bite and it's just anti-Chelsea/costa nonsense.
What happened is not important, what matters is if he is charged and found guilty of something, once that has been decided then at least we have something to discuss until then trying to hold a discussion with people who's main views are "he looks like something out of a gangster film" is as big of a waste of time as trying to find a intelligent conversation on TOWIE I've kept out of that other thread, as you say it's just an excuse for some of the idiots on the forum to vent their bile. Any attempt at sensible discussion will be swamped by posters with an obvious agenda. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6609 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Richmond, Surrey.
Posts: 13,814
|
Quote:
is still not good enough for first choice striker at Chelsea. He is at the level he deserves to be
![]() I don't Chelsea were to blame letting him go, at the time he wasn't ready for a guaranteed first team place. He didn't want to be a second or third choice, and you can't (or shouldn't ) force a player to stay. He's just one that got away, but every club has those. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6610 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,434
|
Quote:
I have to disagree with you there Don. I think he's probably reached that level now. Mourinho was right when he talked about his link-up play, but that has improved immensely. He's looking better and better with every game, and already twice the player Benteke is in my opinion..not that he's much of a benchmark.
![]() I don't Chelsea were to blame letting him go, at the time he wasn't ready for a guaranteed first team place. He didn't want to be a second or third choice, and you can't (or shouldn't ) force a player to stay. He's just one that got away, but every club has those. If he never played for us in the past I doubt many people even now would suggest we look at him. Think he is one of those players who will do a excellent job when playing for teams like Everton but once he starts playing for a top top team he will be nothing more then a OK player |
|
|
|
|
|
#6611 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,434
|
Quote:
Gareth Barry has said Costa didn't bite him and Roberto Martinez doesn't think anything occurred that requires further action. Of course, you can never be sure of what the pathetic morons at the FA will do, they have proved themselves unfit for purpose time and time again.
I've kept out of that other thread, as you say it's just an excuse for some of the idiots on the forum to vent their bile. Any attempt at sensible discussion will be swamped by posters with an obvious agenda. We just need to see what we are dealing with first. A)Nothing more then the current one match ban B)a added ban for his reaction C)a biting charge In the game as it stands I can see any of those options coming true, before we as Chelsea fans start discussing what happened we should wait until we know what we are dealing with before we start talking like Codeblue did |
|
|
|
|
|
#6612 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,402
|
Agree with the above about Lukaku, his level is just below top tier. There was an old Man Utd poster who thought that it would be worth them spending £60m on him and that he as the answer. A slightly better version of Saha is what he is I think.
And you're probably right that if he hadn't come from Chelsea then he woidlht be considered any higher than Benteke was when he was at Villa. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6613 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 4,156
|
Quote:
Agree with the above about Lukaku, his level is just below top tier. There was an old Man Utd poster who thought that it would be worth them spending £60m on him and that he as the answer. A slightly better version of Saha is what he is I think.
And you're probably right that if he hadn't come from Chelsea then he woidlht be considered any higher than Benteke was when he was at Villa. How unfortunate that you assumed I was gone. Lukaku has 25 goals this season in a struggling Everton team, he has an excellent record for them overall, he is improving season on season and is an experienced PL and International footballer at just 22 years of age. His record is there for all to see. Chelsea were right to get rid of him in the circumstances at the time but there is no doubt he has kicked on and has plenty of improvement left in him at his age. Louis Saha? Do me a favour. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6614 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 4,402
|
Quote:
An "Old Man Utd Poster"?
How unfortunate that you assumed I was gone. Lukaku has 25 goals this season in a struggling Everton team, he has an excellent record for them overall, he is improving season on season and is an experienced PL and International footballer at just 22 years of age. His record is there for all to see. Chelsea were right to get rid of him in the circumstances at the time but there is no doubt he has kicked on and has plenty of improvement left in him at his age. Louis Saha? Do me a favour. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6615 |
|
Inactive Member
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 4,156
|
Quote:
Oi oi!! Welcome back. What a coincidence timing wise...I prefer you are here as you know your stuff. Though I disagree with some of your views. I don't think I was saying anything bad by quoting an old man Utd poster, definite no need for you to get upset by it.
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6616 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Alberto Del Rio's Car
Posts: 2,290
|
Quote:
He is a very good player but I don't think any team that has serious ambitions of top 3 and having a title challenge would have him in their top 3 when it comes to their shopping list when looking for a striker unless they have no decent strikers and even then I don't think he would be number one on that list.
If he never played for us in the past I doubt many people even now would suggest we look at him. Think he is one of those players who will do a excellent job when playing for teams like Everton but once he starts playing for a top top team he will be nothing more then a OK player More than anything, we really need to sort out our defence. Cahill and Ivanovic should not be anywhere near our team next season. I'm tired of watching Cahill backing off opponents in our own box - he should be thankful he's even playing at a club like Chelsea. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6617 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,605
|
Quote:
Well I blame some of that with the obsession to try and be like Barcelona.
![]() The 'trying to play like Barca ' went out the window the moment Jose returned and started messing with Mata. ![]() Styles do not win titles anyway! It's about having the best players in a well balanced team that is very consistent and mentally strong. Style of play is only important in terms of how you prefer to see you team play. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6618 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,605
|
Quote:
I not sure how you was saying that.
We have done better because we have much better players The comment was Utd have team team of decent players and you said we had the same when the evidence disproves that entirely. You cannot just look at one small window (i.e this season) |
|
|
|
|
|
#6619 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,605
|
Quote:
Agreed. I don't understand the fuss about Lukaku. He wanted to be our first choice striker without fighting for his place and I'm glad we sold him.
More than anything, we really need to sort out our defence. Cahill and Ivanovic should not be anywhere near our team next season. I'm tired of watching Cahill backing off opponents in our own box - he should be thankful he's even playing at a club like Chelsea. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6620 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,434
|
Quote:
The original comment was not UTD have a lot of average players, but one that said they have some average to very good players but nobody outstanding. That is pretty much what we have!
You don't win titles or come single points from 1st place without having outstanding players. You don't have 6 players in the team of the season (and two in the season before that) if they are not outstanding. They might not be playing outstanding at the moment but to say they are not top players is insanity. We do have outstanding players the issue is they are not performing at the moment |
|
|
|
|
|
#6621 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West London
Posts: 5,660
|
Quote:
![]() The 'trying to play like Barca ' went out the window the moment Jose returned and started messing with Mata. ![]() Styles do not win titles anyway! It's about having the best players in a well balanced team that is very consistent and mentally strong. Style of play is only important in terms of how you prefer to see you team play. I was more referring to Ancelotti's team that was full of strength, power and balance. Mata would not of got a look in with that side, not with Lampard & Ballack. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6622 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,434
|
Quote:
And won the league.............. I know you try but lets not forget that eh
I was more referring to Ancelotti's team that was full of strength, power and balance. Mata would not of got a look in with that side, not with Lampard & Ballack. Very good player but is lacking many aspects needed in a title winning team |
|
|
|
|
|
#6623 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Alberto Del Rio's Car
Posts: 2,290
|
Quote:
I agree about Cahill and Ivanovic, but hugely overrated keeper should not keep getting away with his share of criticism. Along with his other shortcomings, four times in a couple of months he's been done on a one to one on exactly the same angle as Lukaku's second goal. That is just not good enough for a keeper who was once rated as a top three in the world. Not even top six in the Premiership this season!
|
|
|
|
|
|
#6624 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Richmond, Surrey.
Posts: 13,814
|
Quote:
Courtois hasn't been the same since he came back from injury but he is still young. I agree he deserves his share of criticisms this season (as you say, he's been beaten at his near post a couple of times this season and he made an awful mistake in our home game against Stoke) but it's too early to write him off yet. Even with the bad season he's having, I still wouldn't take any other GK in the PL over him.
This whole season has been a shambles, I think it's reasonable to expect our young keeper will have been affected in the same way as the majority of the team. He'll be back to his best next season, I'm confident of that. |
|
|
|
|
|
#6625 |
|
Forum Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 12,605
|
Quote:
But that is clearly not true.
You don't win titles or come single points from 1st place without having outstanding players. You don't have 6 players in the team of the season (and two in the season before that) if they are not outstanding. They might not be playing outstanding at the moment but to say they are not top players is insanity. We do have outstanding players the issue is they are not performing at the moment We are talking about the present not the past! But even if we go back to last season, the only really 'outstanding player' we had was Hazard and one top season does not make a player true world class! Even as champs we were a million miles away from being a really great team like the ones that won titles before. That was shown by us going from champs to a team in a relegation battle. That would have been unthinkable not too long ago! The very mediocre level of the Premiership these days means that a team who were bottom a year ago can now be 5 points clear with 8 games to go. |
|
|
|
![]() |
|
All times are GMT. The time now is 11:53.






