Oscar has to take the blame for his own performances, but the hard fact is that he has not been anything like the player he was before Jose returned!

That's a yes then

He played well in the first half of last season as did the team. Shame you weren't ever around to comment on that at the time.

The player himself has to take responsibility as does Mata for his pretty woeful stuff at United.

Continually blaming Jose for everything is just lame.

In your haste to blame Mourinho for everything you seem to have forgotten that Ramires was signed when Ancelotti was manager. No wonder no-one takes you seriously on here.

He hates Jose as he won us trophies. Sounds familiar with another poster on here....

Hopefully Leicester wil do the job and win it. They are of course doing it the same way as Chelsea last season. Attack the first half of season, get a lead and defend it in the second. No doubt Claudio will be a genius in his eyes.

So without going back and checking everything you know every single fact off by heart? OK, Ramires was signed by Carlo. Still a crap player who held us back.

Winning the title with Leicester, led by a player who cost half million , will be massively superior to Jose taking us up one place and with more money than anyone else to spend.

Oscar played a few good games over a few months.
That does not compensate for his last three years of largely poor form.

More of your small picture mentality I see.

Lets not tell the full story as it would blow your "theory's" out of the water

Yet UTD give 18 year olds a chance to win big games for them.

So which part of my post was incorrect?

Never said it was incorrect what I said you was only looking at the small picture, Very different to saying what you said was incorrect.

You need to look at the whole picture when discussing those days for example it the number of places between us and Arsenal that season was not the issue, Its was the number of POINTS, Also you need to look at the team mentality at the time and difference between those two seasons. You also need to look at business model and the business plan of the club at the time. You need to look what was happening to the "big teams" at the time etc etc etc.

If Leicester win it this season its a massive achievement but one very different to what Jose did

Did they give him a chance? Was it because of his performances in the youth team set up? Did the manager say to his forwards "sorry I dropping you because this kid is playing amazing"

Or did he get the chance because of injuries and then he grabbed his chance much like Kenedey?

Again tell the full story and not the bits that back up your version of events

Why are you crying about the youth league not being of high quality?

Do you watch a lot of youth league football?

Hold on, you are either a clueless fan or a very poor troll.
Ramires held us back by helping us get to and then we win errr the Champions League.
And despite what you may think, it really is all about winning trophies.

Helped us win the league, that trophy elusive to a few big clubs eh.

But if you are going to make statements to back up your views surely it is important to check if those statements are correct otherwise your views are not based on reality?

No he was not a "crap" footballer he is a player you don't rate not because of his abilities but because you are not a fan of the type of player he is you refuse to recognize his abilities

Did Ramires not win Chelsea player of the year? Thought that meant you was a good player since Mata won the same award.

He was also in the team that won the Europa League which according to Dixon was a fantastic achievement. He really must start remembering what he has written before....

The gap between us and Arsenal was purely down to a mental block, not the actual talents of the players. We could not beat them no matter what. There was even the game at the Bridge when we 2 up with 20 mins to go, then Kanu came on and scored a hat-trick in 15 mins.
We finally beat them in the CL and the jinx was well and truly over. Turn round two loses against them into two wins and that points gap is overturned.
It is no big deal to overcome just one team that is ahead of you!

Oh come on!
He had a few good moments here and there and we will all be forever grateful for thar crucial goal against Barca. However, none of that can cover up what a poor first touch he so often had and what a poor passer he was for a player at that level.

true buts lets at least look at the possibility he played poorly in that game and the win was in spite of him (possible)

So lets look at his individual honours

Nominated for player of the year in 2011/12. Won goal of the season twice and players player, Not bad for a "crap" player

Again why the gap was there is not important. What the gap is not important.


Ignoring the rest of the points? Why? Because they don't back up your views?

Jinx? What are we talking about here? Some Harry Potter stuff? Did we lose because we had the wrong wand? Darn all we needed to do was say Expelliarmus and all would have been sorted

in your opinion

Guess the players who voted for him to get players players (same players who voted Mara the same award) was not football fans

Yep, definitely a player who held us back.