Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“I don't think any player who gets 52 caps for Brazil can be called "crap", even if the current generation of Brazilian players is not the best we've seen.
Ramires wasn't the greatest passer of the ball or dribbler, but he did the job we bought him for in his first few seasons. I wouldn't mind betting that quite a few opposing managers would have loved to have in their squad at that time. He was one of those players that Cantona called "water carriers", every team needs them .”
Crap when compared to top class of the players we once had -Terry, A Cole, Makalele, Lamps, Ballack, Robben, Drogba et al.
Ray Parlour was on the title winning Arsenal but that doesn't stop him from being way below the level of Henry, Vierra and co.