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Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5)
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codeblue
24-04-2016
I'd rather have traore and 50 million in the bank than Lukaku
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“I'd rather have traore and 50 million in the bank than Lukaku”

That is not a surprise
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by carefree_blue:
“Yep, I'd have Traore ahead of Remy in the pecking order now, who unfortunately can't be relied upon to ever be fit. Even when either of them have played this season Traore has done more, as you say. Hopefully we can move Remy on in the summer.”

I don't see it being too much of a problem.

He is a decent enough player. When fit and in form he a pretty decent striker just is not good enough to push Costa enough which is not a easy thing to do


While we might have to take a hit on the price its worth it to free up a space in the squad and bring in someone who is a massive improvement while of course we have more important positions to fill it is something we need to do and not one we can do on the cheap.
RichmondBlue
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Carroll has a very good first touch for a big man. Certainly better than Lukaku's !
I would actually like us to sign Carroll. He'd cost a fraction of what it would cost us to buy back Luka. He would be happy to be the number two, bring something to the squad that we do not currently have, and i also think he could work well with Costa, which is something i cannot see Luka doing.”

Please tell me you're not serious...you want us to sign Andy Carroll ! He's not even among the top five English strikers. If Costa was injured you'd really prefer Carroll as a starter in preference to Lukaku ? Yes, he would come at a fraction of the price, but that's for one very good reason..he's nowhere near as good.
Carroll would add value as a bench player, someone to bring on if you were desperate for a goal and wanted to take a route one approach. But he's strictly a "what you see is what you get" type of player. With Lukaku there is still plenty of time for improvement, and he's already at a decent level.
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“Please tell me you're not serious...you want us to sign Andy Carroll ! He's not even among the top five English strikers. If Costa was injured you'd really prefer Carroll as a starter in preference to Lukaku ? Yes, he would come at a fraction of the price, but that's for one very good reason..he's nowhere near as good.
Carroll would add value as a bench player, someone to bring on if you were desperate for a goal and wanted to take a route one approach. But he's strictly a "what you see is what you get" type of player. With Lukaku there is still plenty of time for improvement, and he's already at a decent level.”

I wouldn't have signed Carroll before the Roman money came in.

If he was not English he might be hawked around the mid to bottom teams for a few million but that's about it. If i needed someone to help keep me up and I was 2/3 points from safety then yes but anything else?
codeblue
24-04-2016
Andy Carroll?

I've heard it all now!
Dixon
24-04-2016
JT would tell you a fit and in form Carroll is a bugger to handle.
The_don1
24-04-2016
You don't buy something because its cheaper then something else. Its a awful way to run a corner shop never mind a multi million pound business.

I am need a 3 three bedroom house in Central London i am not going to look at 1 bedroom flats in Bradford no matter how nice it is
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“JT would tell you a fit and in form Carroll is a bugger to handle.”

Yep that's how we decided who we buy.

We ask JT who is difficult to handle.

He would prob say his misses is difficult to handle after he has been caught with another women.

Maybe sign her

She on a free, Knows the team etc
The_don1
24-04-2016
Keeping Remy would be a far more sensible and logical move then signing Carroll
Dixon
24-04-2016
You sneer at the idea of Carroll being at Chelsea, yet you are happy to keep a human statue at the heart of a midfield that cannot cope with any kind of pace running at it.
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“You sneer at the idea of Carroll being at Chelsea, yet you are happy to keep a human statue at the heart of a midfield that cannot cope with any kind of pace running at it.”

Irrelevant comparison.

One player is already there and one is not.

If we was talking about buying the likes of Mikel today then I would not suggest buying him but we are not discussing that.

Lets keep it at least somewhere in the same ballpark and not two utterly different circumstances
codeblue
24-04-2016
So mikkel is distinctly average so we buy Andy Carroll?

Bizarre.

Let's shop at a higher table. That striker from atletico looks good.
Jokanovic
24-04-2016
So Carroll is not good enough for Liverpool yet we should buy him.
Love the ambition
Dixon
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“So Carroll is not good enough for Liverpool yet we should buy him.
Love the ambition”

Thankfully, football doesn't work as simply as that!

Mata was brilliant for us but not so good at UTD. Does that mean he's no longer a good player?
Carroll did not fit into the very high tempo style Liverpool want to play. We play a more measured, more varied game and Carroll could fit into this as a squad player.
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“Thankfully, football doesn't work as simply as that!

Mata was brilliant for us but not so good at UTD. Does that mean he's no longer a good player?
Carroll did not fit into the very high tempo style Liverpool want to play. We play a more measured, more varied game and Carroll could fit into this as a squad player.”

When did Conte tell you how we are going to play?
Dixon
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“When did Conte tell you how we are going to play?”


We don't have the players to play a very high tempo game. We can in short bursts but not for too long.
I just think a strike force of Costa, Traore, Carroll + one other would be a good blend of different types of players.
The_don1
24-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“We don't have the players to play a very high tempo game. We can in short bursts but not for too long.
I just think a strike force of Costa, Traore, Carroll + one other would be a good blend of different types of players.”

We have no idea who we will have or not next season.

The fact that according to those who job it is to know these things are suggesting we are after Lukaku and not Caroll (thankfully) is prob more a sign of where we are going next season
Dixon
25-04-2016
According to the Guardian, Guus, has said Hazard
is happy and will stay at Chelsea next season.
RichmondBlue
25-04-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“According to the Guardian, Guus, has said Hazard
is happy and will stay at Chelsea next season.”

I think it was reported that Conte had singled out Hazard and talked with him during his last visit. Perhaps it's done the trick, Hazard looked a lot happier on Saturday ?
Jokanovic
25-04-2016
Dominic Solanke wants 50k a week apparently to sign a new contract.
Football's seriously gone mad.
RichmondBlue
26-04-2016
Originally Posted by Jokanovic:
“Dominic Solanke wants 50k a week apparently to sign a new contract.
Football's seriously gone mad.”

It is madness, but we've only got ourselves to blame by (allegedly) paying £65k a week to RLC ( why did we do that by the way, does anyone know ?)
Deli Alli was given a rise to £25k a week at Spurs recently, and Zouma is still "only" on £40k a week with us.
I think we should call his bluff, nobody else is going to give him anything like that figure.
Dixon
26-04-2016
Originally Posted by RichmondBlue:
“It is madness, but we've only got ourselves to blame by (allegedly) paying £65k a week to RLC ( why did we do that by the way, does anyone know ?)
Deli Alli was given a rise to £25k a week at Spurs recently, and Zouma is still "only" on £40k a week with us.
I think we should call his bluff, nobody else is going to give him anything like that figure.”

Give Dominic a break!
The boy is a budding superstar...in his own head.
roddydogs
26-04-2016
Hope L dont win on Sun, we want something to play for on Mon.!
codeblue
26-04-2016
Get rid of that 50k a week kid.

Everything thats wrong with football in a nutshell
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