DS Forums

 
 

Chelsea Supporters Thread (Part 5)


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 07-06-2016, 20:56
RichmondBlue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Richmond, Surrey.
Posts: 13,811
Yep, he's too lightweight as you say. Think we paid around £23.5m for him, we should just sell for as much as possible now.
Well, he's had a good season at Juve by all accounts. They have a number of players we could use (even forgetting you know who ) so maybe it puts us in a decent bargaining position. Though as I said previously, Conte apparently likes Cuadrado so it's not out of the question that he brings him back.
RichmondBlue is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 07-06-2016, 21:00
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
Are you saying Jose had no say?

Bizarre
He had a say along with many other people. Its not even as if he had the final say.

He was part of a committee now unless the whole transfer committee at Chelsea have moved to Utd your post about Utd better getting use to bad transfer choices is utterly irrelevant.
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2016, 21:46
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
Well, he's had a good season at Juve by all accounts. They have a number of players we could use (even forgetting you know who ) so maybe it puts us in a decent bargaining position. Though as I said previously, Conte apparently likes Cuadrado so it's not out of the question that he brings him back.
Hopefully he won't make a concrete decision to keep him until our pre-season games start at least, because if he looks as poor then as he did last time he was with us then he should definitely be offloaded before the transfer window closes.

Oscar could be another potential bargaining tool with Juventus, seeing as they've been strongly linked with him for quite a while now, and Allegri's supposed to be quite keen on him.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2016, 22:03
codeblue
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: A Sound Expert
Posts: 13,881
He had a say along with many other people. Its not even as if he had the final say.

He was part of a committee now unless the whole transfer committee at Chelsea have moved to Utd your post about Utd better getting use to bad transfer choices is utterly irrelevant.

The buck stops with the guy who writes the cheques, but rest assured Jose pulled the strings.
codeblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2016, 22:21
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
The buck stops with the guy who writes the cheques, but rest assured Jose pulled the strings.
In your mind yes but that has nothing to do with the actual facts (and more to with his current job)

What has Roman got to do with the matter?

He will not be on the committee.

There are a number of people who will decide who comes and who goes, They have a collective say in the matter that means they are all responsible for any that work out or fail.

"pulls the strings"? What is this some penny crime or spy novel? Is his nick-name Mr Big? Does he have a secret lair? Has he a white cat? Does he have a secret identity?
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2016, 22:33
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
He had a say along with many other people. Its not even as if he had the final say.

He was part of a committee now unless the whole transfer committee at Chelsea have moved to Utd your post about Utd better getting use to bad transfer choices is utterly irrelevant.
Yep, and besides United have made enough questionable transfer decisions in recent times anyway without Mourinho's input, so they should already be used to it if anything.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2016, 23:06
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
Yep, and besides United have made enough questionable transfer decisions in recent times anyway without Mourinho's input, so they should already be used to it if anything.
I think i saw somewhere Utd are in talks to buy someone that they started talking to long before Jose got the job at Utd, Was he "pulling strings" then?

Was Jose partly to blame for any bad signings? Of course but the majority of the committee are still at Chelsea and still having the same say as they did when Jose was here. If we are looking at playing a "blame" game we should not be talking about people or what fans at other clubs need to worry about or get use too but should be talking about those at Chelsea currently and saying "we" should be getting use to "those terrible" transfer decisions
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 21:38
Tip top 2
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 760

It has been reported in The Sun that the lad wants a move away to be reunited with mozza. The Sun is not as reliable as The Star when it comes to stories I'll admit that, but I think there will be some credibility in the report.

Similar to Hazard, Matic was a player that was being relied on far too much in the title winning season, and I think that Matic has looked around, and thought, why am I doing so much of the leg work, covering acres of space each match, risking injury, risking burn out, getting up to attack, covering the back four centrally and out wide when required? And, why is it that other players are earning way in excess of £100 k / week, when Matic probably picks up around 70 k?

A move to Man Utd would bump his wages up to around £120k and I think that's the reason. At his best, he's a very good player, and a lot better than Mikel who tried and failed near the end of the season to get forward more. Matic is also a lot better defensively.

If I were the club and Conte, I'd get to the root, real cause of the woes which is probably money and give him a pay rise. As long as he can get back to the form of a year ago, he's worth keeping.
Tip top 2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 21:47
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
It has been reported in The Sun that the lad wants a move away to be reunited with mozza. The Sun is not as reliable as The Star when it comes to stories I'll admit that, but I think there will be some credibility in the report.

Similar to Hazard, Matic was a player that was being relied on far too much in the title winning season, and I think that Matic has looked around, and thought, why am I doing so much of the leg work, covering acres of space each match, risking injury, risking burn out, getting up to attack, covering the back four centrally and out wide when required? And, why is it that other players are earning way in excess of £100 k / week, when Matic probably picks up around 70 k?

A move to Man Utd would bump his wages up to around £120k and I think that's the reason. At his best, he's a very good player, and a lot better than Mikel who tried and failed near the end of the season to get forward more. Matic is also a lot better defensively.

If I were the club and Conte, I'd get to the root, real cause of the woes which is probably money and give him a pay rise. As long as he can get back to the form of a year ago, he's worth keeping.
Excellent way to run a business. Someone wants a pay raise of 40/50k we should just give them it. You will then have other players coming wanting a pay raise and before you know it instead of having prob 4 or 5 earning 100K plus we will have 8 or 9

We have finally got player wages to a sensible level (even more sensible with the new JT contract) and you want to chuck that out of the window?

At the moment nobody deserves a pay increase.
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 22:54
codeblue
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: A Sound Expert
Posts: 13,881
A player under contract who had a terrible season should get a wage increase of 60k a week? Madness

If he wants out, a club has to pay big money.

If he wants out to jose's United, then they will have to double what we paid for him

United have money to burn, 30 million on a player with under 30 top league games, madness from Jose today
codeblue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 23:42
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
Give Matic a big wage increase? Someone's had one too many sherbets down the Dog and Duck.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-06-2016, 15:03
Heavenly
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 30,890
Looking forward to seeing how much Eden wants to impress his new boss tonight.
Heavenly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-06-2016, 22:52
zebedee
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: north london
Posts: 775
We are not going to win the Fair Play league next season
zebedee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 13-06-2016, 22:55
Jokanovic
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: West London
Posts: 5,657
Well he's certainly organised his team well. Liked the way they played.
Jokanovic is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2016, 01:04
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
Well he's certainly organised his team well. Liked the way they played.
Yes, for all the pundits' pre-match talk of them being the worst Italian team in years they looked a good, solid team.

I thought Lukaku was poor. I'm personally not keen on the idea of re-signing him. Not good enough to be our first choice, and would be too expensive to justify bringing in as a second choice. For the sort of money we'd have to pay you'd want someone closer to the level of Costa, that's going to push him more for a place in the team.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2016, 12:03
Heavenly
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 30,890
Typical Belgian performance - flatter to deceive.

KDB and Lukaku were poor.

Eden was frustrated.

But on the plus side.....Conte

Gets a nosebleed after first goal goes in! Was really good to see to see how his team is set up, can't wait to see how he gets our lot to be so disciplined at the back...........
Heavenly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2016, 15:13
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
Gets a nosebleed after first goal goes in! Was really good to see to see how his team is set up, can't wait to see how he gets our lot to be so disciplined at the back...........
I can't wait either. He'll have his work cut out with some of them though.

Will be interesting to see if we end up signing any of these Italian players too.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2016, 15:41
NinjyBear
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 7,680
Any thoughts on Nainggolan's performance? He's looking a certain signing.
NinjyBear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 14-06-2016, 15:45
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
Any thoughts on Nainggolan's performance? He's looking a certain signing.
Its hard to judge a Belgians performance when they playing for the national team.

They seem to lose all abilities to play football when they put on the national shirt.


.
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2016, 09:16
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
Looks like October 22nd will be the date the children will chucking their toys around.

West Ham not a bad start for us. Tough game but not as bad as could have been
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2016, 09:55
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
Looks like October 22nd will be the date the children will chucking their toys around.

West Ham not a bad start for us. Tough game but not as bad as could have been
Good last 3 games for us too.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2016, 09:59
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
Good last 3 games for us too.
Looking at the first 5 games we should be able to get off to a very good start.
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2016, 13:00
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
Was looking through the latest retained/released lists on the PL site and noticed Mo Salah is still listed amongst our players. I thought Roma took up an option to sign him permanently last season?

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/n...sed-lists.html
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2016, 14:12
The_don1
Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 7,430
Was looking through the latest retained/released lists on the PL site and noticed Mo Salah is still listed amongst our players. I thought Roma took up an option to sign him permanently last season?

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/n...sed-lists.html
From what I remember he joined in August last year on a loan (for 5m fee) and they then had a option on buying him anytime during the season
The_don1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 15-06-2016, 17:50
carefree_blue
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 3,731
From what I remember he joined in August last year on a loan (for 5m fee) and they then had a option on buying him anytime during the season
Yep that's right, which they were then widely reported to have done a couple of months into the loan spell.

So those reports were wrong, and he's still ours then? If so, I wouldn't mind seeing him given another chance. Never really got much of a look-in under JM, but he's done well since then.
carefree_blue is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:40.