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Interesting article on Conte for anyone who has the time..
http://twentyminutereads.com/2016/08/09/the-hammer/ |
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It's nice to see Moses and Cuadrado officially retained:
http://www.chelseafc.com/teams/first-team.html A big cheer to the brave lads who stuck up for them, when a few others were saying they were rubbish. A management team who shows some faith in those two could get some crucial wins where an added dimension is needed in tight matches. |
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I wonder if they will become world class this season ?
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With Moses and Cuadrado in the squad now and hopefully staying, who will leave?
Kenedy will be good cover on the left, especially if Conte opts for a back three on occasion. I'd send Loftus Cheek out on loan at another PL club, where he can fight for a place and really get stuck in. It's done Ake a lot of good over at Watford. Either Oscar or Pedro could also be sold on. Traore is cover in attack and I would have thought that Remy will be sold on as well. |
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Either Oscar or Pedro could also be sold on. Traore is cover in attack and I would have thought that Remy will be sold on as well.
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Oscar is going nowhere!
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Wouldn't surprise me if Moses is loaned out again on transfer deadline day, maybe to Crystal Palace this time now as Bolasie has been sold.
Looks like Cuadrado will stay for the time being though. Can't say I'm thrilled at the prospect of seeing him being outmuscled by everyone else in the Premier League again. |
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Wouldn't surprise me if Moses is loaned out again on transfer deadline day, maybe to Crystal Palace this time now as Bolasie has been sold.
Looks like Cuadrado will stay for the time being though. Can't say I'm thrilled at the prospect of seeing him being outmuscled by everyone else in the Premier League again. |
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Neither are good enough unfortunately.
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Wouldn't surprise me if Moses is loaned out again on transfer deadline day, maybe to Crystal Palace this time now as Bolasie has been sold.
Looks like Cuadrado will stay for the time being though. Can't say I'm thrilled at the prospect of seeing him being outmuscled by everyone else in the Premier League again. Decides he can't beat the man, and passes it backwards, sideways or crosses into the box to an opposition player. Most of the time. Did you watch pre season? Did you watch Cuadrado at Juventus where he was a double medal winner? At least he tries to beat a man, create some pace, cross ACCURATELY into the box to someone on his side, and / or draw a foul. To succeed you have to do something different and playing Willian every match with his run around like a headless chicken approach makes the team far too predictable and far too easy to defend against. Moses when given a chance at least tries to run at defenders, beat them with his direct approach and cross accurately. He's a very good alternative if Hazard is injured or being marked tightly. Can't understand the support for Pedro either. He should be ahead of other players because the club paid £21 million for him? That's pecking orders gone mad again. If he's playing consistently well, he should play, but he hasn't been. You pick on form not reputation. |
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You pick on form not reputation.
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Bertrand Traore has gone to Ajax for the season.
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It amazes me some of the throw away comments that some apparent fans post. Do you watch the games? What does Willian do in tight matches wide on the right?
Decides he can't beat the man, and passes it backwards, sideways or crosses into the box to an opposition player. Most of the time. Did you watch pre season? Did you watch Cuadrado at Juventus where he was a double medal winner? At least he tries to beat a man, create some pace, cross ACCURATELY into the box to someone on his side, and / or draw a foul. To succeed you have to do something different and playing Willian every match with his run around like a headless chicken approach makes the team far too predictable and far too easy to defend against. Moses when given a chance at least tries to run at defenders, beat them with his direct approach and cross accurately. He's a very good alternative if Hazard is injured or being marked tightly. Can't understand the support for Pedro either. He should be ahead of other players because the club paid £21 million for him? That's pecking orders gone mad again. If he's playing consistently well, he should play, but he hasn't been. You pick on form not reputation. |
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^ Agreed Richmond, best just to ignore the troll.
Bit disappointing that Traore has been loaned to Ajax. I understand his desire to play regularly at the moment, but if we had to loan him out a Premier League club would have been much better, or at least a club from one of the other top leagues. |
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^ Agreed Richmond, best just to ignore the troll.
Bit disappointing that Traore has been loaned to Ajax. I understand his desire to play regularly at the moment, but if we had to loan him out a Premier League club would have been much better, or at least a club from one of the other top leagues. At the moment I think he needs to play as much as possible |
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Think Ajax suited him because he has worked with the manager before and not sure how much time he would get at a Premier League club from nearer the top half of the table. Ajax will play a good amount of games this season (I assume they in Europe of some degree).
At the moment I think he needs to play as much as possible |
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Wasn't thinking of one of the top half on the table clubs, the likes of Bournemouth etc would have been ideal. Ajax have a CL play-off coming up so will be in the Europa at the very least. I don't think playing in a comparatively weak league like the Eredivisie is particularly beneficial to his development though.
Europa League would be a perfect schooling for him. You play lots of different types of teams, Do quite a bit of travelling, Will need to be ready to play games with not a lot of rest in between, Train at a certain level, Dropped if you don't perform, All things he needs to learn if he wants to play at Chelsea. Bournemouth might improve his abilities but I think would hinder his education and I think that is what alot of young players today lack, They have the talent but lack the intelligence and have not been taught how to use their abilities in the correct way or what is expected of them and how to met those expectations, A club like Ajax is all about education |
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Yes, I was hoping Traore would stay on, but he understandably wants more football. He did well last season, arguably finishing as our number 2 striker. But with the arrival of Batshuayi and Chelsea still pursuing another striker, he would have been pushed back to third or fourth choice, same as the beginning of last season.
It seems to have been a mutually agreeable solution, I think that's important when you're trying to keep an exciting young prospect happy with the club. I think he will continue to develope, Ajax may be long past their glory days, but they still have a fine record of bringing young players through. |
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Yes, I was hoping Traore would stay on, but he understandably wants more football. He did well last season, arguably finishing as our number 2 striker. But with the arrival of Batshuayi and Chelsea still pursuing another striker, he would have been pushed back to third or fourth choice, same as the beginning of last season.
It seems to have been a mutually agreeable solution, I think that's important when you're trying to keep an exciting young prospect happy with the club. I think he will continue to develope, Ajax may be long past their glory days, but they still have a fine record of bringing young players through. |
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Should we pick up a cheap wilfred bony?
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Traore being loaned out is a surprise, but it makes sense. His all round game isn't there yet, and the two years in Holland playing CL football will be invaluable. Loftus Cheek should follow him on loan but to a PL side, and that will either make him or break him. There'll be no golden boy status there, and he'll have to muck in with everyone else or fail.
Hazard is looking like another striker now, so I'm not so sure another striker is vital, although it's probably needed to be on the safe side. Maybe Lukaku will be on the way after all. There's no point Everton keeping a player who wants away. It badly affected Stones's form last season. The CB position is more pressing and I can't understand the club or the board there. They're moaning about over inflated prices. Torres for all the stick he got, paid back his fee with the CL win along with shirt sales. If Koulibaly is going to cost £45 million, pay it and get it over with. Better to pay over the odds and win trophies, then be miserly and win nothing. I still think that Lindelof is the better option having said that. |
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666 posts!
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Kenedy to Watford looks a done deal. He will play most matches and, unlike with Traore, it will be against quality opposition.
Still pissed about it. Of the 7 AM's we have right now he'd be second on the list of ones I'd want to keep. |
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Kenedy to Watford looks a done deal. He will play most matches and, unlike with Traore, it will be against quality opposition.
Still pissed about it. Of the 7 AM's we have right now he'd be second on the list of ones I'd want to keep. |
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^ Agreed Richmond, best just to ignore the troll.
Bit disappointing that Traore has been loaned to Ajax. I understand his desire to play regularly at the moment, but if we had to loan him out a Premier League club would have been much better, or at least a club from one of the other top leagues. |
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