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Old 06-12-2014, 14:53
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I tuned in 15 minutes late and missed the line-ups. Only just noticed that Oscar was playing.

F**king hell.
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Old 06-12-2014, 15:15
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They deserved it.We play poor and got punished for it.The unbeaten talk was daft and I dont think anyone aside from the papers hyped it up.Stupid to talk about it a few months in.Jose has never won at St James park still..hey ho next game move on.Long way to go
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Old 06-12-2014, 16:04
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Disappointing day, Newcastle were good however and probably deserved their win. We looked flat and struggled to break through their defence.

Drogba actually looked the most likely to score and Costa had a surprisngly bad game, his worst for us yet. A few others were anonymous too but i wonder if no Matic was the difference, Mikel again looking very poor.

Disappointing but not the end of the world, the worry is that City are on a good run of form and if they win today, only 3 points behind and the title race is well on.

I always expected us to slip up somewhere, we just need to bounce back strongly and it wont matter.
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Old 06-12-2014, 19:15
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Don't agree with Mourhino's comments on the match: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/30361675

You make your own luck in football, and watching the Man City v Everton match, city are playing very fast, energetic football with lots of sharp, intelligent movement off the ball.

That's what Chelsea didn't do today, and they will have to start closing teams down quicker, etc, or city will over take them.
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Old 06-12-2014, 21:38
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A result/performance that was due.

While we have accused the media of getting carried away I think we have fans have as well to some extent. The improvement from last season is massive but its far from complete.

In the last 2 (longer IMO) seasons that would have been a 2-0 defeat, This season although it was a fair result we could have got something out it right up to the very end.

We still have a hell of alot of work to do before we get to anywhere near the standard we think we are at.

What I will say is for Hazzard to really become the player I think he can be these are the games "he" needs to be winning for Chelsea. Not saying we are or should be a one man team but a true world class player wins these type of games for his team.

Hopefully this result and performance will calm down some of the rubbish that has surrounded "the undefetibles" so far this season and gets us back into the real world
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Old 06-12-2014, 21:55
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We given up 5 points in 1 week to ****ing Sunderland and Newcastle. Now City went for 8 points back to 3. Frustrating to watch
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Old 06-12-2014, 22:20
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We given up 5 points in 1 week to ****ing Sunderland and Newcastle. Now City went for 8 points back to 3. Frustrating to watch
We lost 5-3 to Leicester along with a home defeat to Swansea.

6 embarrassing points dropped right there.
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Old 06-12-2014, 22:40
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We lost 5-3 to Leicester along with a home defeat to Swansea.

6 embarrassing points dropped right there.
This is what cost us the league last year, dropping points to teams we should beat. We were 4 points short last year and dropped 5 points at home to Sunderland and Norwich. It gets frustrating to watch us drop points like this and now we let City right back in the title race.
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Old 06-12-2014, 23:18
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This is what cost us the league last year, dropping points to teams we should beat. We were 4 points short last year and dropped 5 points at home to Sunderland and Norwich. It gets frustrating to watch us drop points like this and now we let City right back in the title race.
It depends on the Aguero injury. City are heavily reliant on him.

They won today playing at home,with a dodgy penalty and an absolutely shocking display from the ref in their favour.

God knows how Mangala stayed on the pitch today.
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Old 06-12-2014, 23:34
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It depends on the Aguero injury. City are heavily reliant on him.

They won today playing at home,with a dodgy penalty and an absolutely shocking display from the ref in their favour.

God knows how Mangala stayed on the pitch today.

City should have been down 2 men today and got rewarded a ridiculous penalty as well. We got Hull at home next week, no excuse for not bouncing back.
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Old 07-12-2014, 02:01
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I wasn't too surprised at the result. I had a bad feeling about the game when I realised Matic wouldn't be playing. I think even some Chelsea fans underestimate just how important he has been for us.
Today it wasn't so much that Mikel had a poor game, he didn't actually do a lot wrong. But we missed the ability Matic has to drive foward with the ball, when he sees space in front of him he carries it foward with purpose. I lost count of the number of times when Mikel had acres of space, but then he just checks back and plays a square ball. There's nothing wrong with that of course, it's often the safest option, but we lose any momentum on the counter attack.

Costa seemed out of sorts today, he was losing out in 50/50 challenges you'd normally expect him to win. But you can't be too hard on the guy, he's still carrying an injury as far as I know.

I never believed all the media hype anyway. Talking us up as the best PL team ever, this isn't yet even the best Chelsea team Mourinho has put together. It has the potential to be, with a couple more additions and some extra strength in depth. But we don't have that rock-sold look that I remember, I can still never really relax until we're three goals in front.

Oh well, it's now going to be tough contest. As I said on the previous page, on paper Man City now have a run of five easy games. We may even lose our lead by the beginning of January. But this season we're better equipped to battle it out and come out on top, so I'm quite optimistic.

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Old 07-12-2014, 06:55
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Not forgetting Franks "3 point" goal against us! Costas early season form has gone, & Moro complaining about time wasting when we had 6 mins added on was just plain embarrassing.
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Old 07-12-2014, 07:50
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I wasn't too surprised at the result. I had a bad feeling about the game when I realised Matic wouldn't be playing. I think even some Chelsea fans underestimate just how important he has been for us.
Today it wasn't so much that Mikel had a poor game, he didn't actually do a lot wrong. But we missed the ability Matic has to drive foward with the ball, when he sees space in front of him he carries it foward with purpose. I lost count of the number of times when Mikel had acres of space, but then he just checks back and plays a square ball. There's nothing wrong with that of course, it's often the safest option, but we lose any momentum on the counter attack.

Costa seemed out of sorts today, he was losing out in 50/50 challenges you'd normally expect him to win. But you can't be too hard on the guy, he's still carrying an injury as far as I know.

I never believed all the media hype anyway. Talking us up as the best PL team ever, this isn't yet even the best Chelsea team Mourinho has put together. It has the potential to be, with a couple more additions and some extra strength in depth. But we don't have that rock-sold look that I remember, I can still never really relax until we're three goals in front.

Oh well, it's now going to be tough contest. As I said on the previous page, on paper Man City now have a run of five easy games. We may even lose our lead by the beginning of January. But this season we're better equipped to battle it out and come out on top, so I'm quite optimistic.
Yep I didn't see the game yesterday (only the highlights) but same as you I wasn't at all optimistic about this fixture considering Matic's absence and Newcastle not exactly being one of our happiest hunting grounds. It's no surprise that Mikel got the nod, although I'd rather have seen Mourinho solidify the central midfield with a three across it. Ramires - Ake - Fabregas may have worked better?

I'm still optimistic too. City have nearly all of their hardest away trips still to come, the fixtures have been a lot kinder to them so far. A win is an absolute must for us against Hull next weekend though.
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Old 07-12-2014, 12:50
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I think we need to stiffen up the midfield for the next few away games, pushing Fabregas further forward. A bit back to basics. Matic and Ramires or Mikel.
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Old 07-12-2014, 16:11
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Was Ramires on the bench yesterday? If so, he seems to have really fallen out of favour this season. I know I've not been happy with him for a while, but I'd rather see him in the team than Mikel or even Oscar at this point.
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Old 07-12-2014, 18:04
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Was Ramires on the bench yesterday? If so, he seems to have really fallen out of favour this season. I know I've not been happy with him for a while, but I'd rather see him in the team than Mikel or even Oscar at this point.
Ramires wouldn't really have worked as a replacement for Matic though, would he ?
I thought he might have replaced Fabregas when he went through a bad spell recently, but Cesc now appears to have rediscovered his early season form.
Mikel/Ramires might have made a better pairing yesterday, leaving a choice of two from Fabregas, Willian and Oscar to partner Hazard in the attacking midfield positions. I'm not sure it would have made that much difference anyway to be honest. We dominated the game for long periods but just didn't take our chances, an all too frequent story unfortunately. This time we didn't get away with it.
As carefree_blue said earlier, we could return to a 4-3-3, it might suit our current personnel better. I think you should choose a system that suits the players, rather than make the players fit into a system.
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Old 07-12-2014, 19:49
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Mikel/Ramires might have made a better pairing yesterday, leaving a choice of two from Fabregas, Willian and Oscar to partner Hazard in the attacking midfield positions.

Mourhino doesn't like change and it can play into the hands of the opposition. I agree, Ramires to freshen things up. Drop Oscar for a bit. Willian's finishing was also disappointing, and I would definitely drop Costa for the next game or two. Remy was great against Tottenham when he came on and didn't put a foot wrong. Drogba and Remy up front for one or two games?

Mourhino doesn't like to play 2 strikers - ever, and why I have no idea. Man Utd and now Man city have won the PL a lot playing mainly with two strikers. Liverpool also came very close last year, but Chelsea under Mourhino won't go there. It doesn't make sense to me. As Chris Waddle commented yesterday, two strikers against Newcastle when Chelsea started to falter could have worked well.

Cahill has also started to make costly mistakes, and Zouma could have a run in the side. That's what squads are for, and it must be very demotivating for Remy say to play very well, only to be then replaced straight away by an out of form Costa. No untouchables.
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Old 09-12-2014, 13:11
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Good to hear we are bringing in Loftus-Cheek to work with the first team players and in the new year bring him into the first team squad.
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Old 09-12-2014, 19:15
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Good to hear we are bringing in Loftus-Cheek to work with the first team players and in the new year bring him into the first team squad.
Generally, Mourhino needs to start to mix the lineups up a bit, and change the shape every now and then, or teams will have Chelsea's number and the PL could go back to Manchester. Preparing to face Chelsea must be very easy at times, due to the fact that the opposition know what the team will be and how Chelsea will play. It's not just about young players, it's about utilising and rotating the existing squad imo.

E.g. against Newcastle, Mikel and Ramires at the base of midfield, Fabregas pushed further forward and Oscar dropped. Start with two strikers every now and then and give the opposition something they haven't prepared all week for. A few surprises.
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Old 10-12-2014, 07:12
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Anyone but Basel?
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Old 10-12-2014, 08:54
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No, Basle for me
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Old 10-12-2014, 18:46
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Cech (c); Azpilicueta, Zouma, Cahill, Filipe Luis; Mikel, Matic; Schurrle, Fabregas, Salah; Diego Costa

Beeney, Ivanovic, Ramires, Loftus-Cheek, Oscar, Remy, Drogba
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Old 10-12-2014, 20:10
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Great start for us.

Matic is the difference.
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Old 10-12-2014, 20:12
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Barcelona is a possible based on current scores
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Old 10-12-2014, 20:22
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I wonder if loftus cheek will get a game later?
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