I think that Friday's show is always a worry because as well as what you say, personally I believe that the crowd reaction can influence the way that a viewer thinks. To some extent at least.

With regards the winners list it is just amazing however we must keep on voting to keep her in.


I agree we will know on Friday just where BB stand with regards to Ashleigh.

I have to say that I'm still concerned about this vote freezing mularkey.
Is it true that they definitely don't reset the votes?
Is that definite?
If they don't, then why do they freeze the votes at all, and why don't they let people still continue voting?

I don't know why they freeze the votes.................................. however if Emma has announced to the house, for the first time, those housemates with least votes I would imagine it would give the GBP a chance to concentrate their voting onto the last two. Perhaps this is what is done.

Why on the forum's own 'who to evict' poll have they kept the poll with Marlon in it pinned as a sticky, and not allowed the new four way poll to be the sticky?

Has someone done a new one?

I would have thought that they would do something about it otherwise the poll is not going to ring true is it?

Yes, it's here,..
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1982765

But it keeps slipping down the forum out of sight because it hasn't been made into a sticky. While the old poll remains as a sticky and corrupts the voting as Marlon shouldn't be on it anymore.

They freeze the lines to save someone who has the least votes or most votes when it is Vote To Save then they re open them and all the votes counted still remain. I wish they didn't do this though .

Thank you

It does distort the voting though anyway doesn't it?
Because in a normal vote you just vote for who you want, and that's it.

In a vote freeze it would mean that anyone who was in the mind to vote would have to suddenly change their mind and go for one of two options.

In a Friday Night eviction show this will be very important as even more will be dependent on the Friday Night atmosphere and the edit of that particular show.
In that respect it would be very easy for BB to swing loads of votes against one person.
It does appear to be an extra element where BB can control the outcome to at least some extent.

Which makes me wonder if with Toya and Matthew if there was no vote to freeze they could have possibly survived.

It's just a theory though.

So maybe it should be a reason to change voting behaviour? For years people said that on eviction night that's when most people vote. So many people waited until Friday Night.
However right now, with a vote to freeze, would it make more sense to vote earlier so as to prevent somebody being in the bottom two at all?
Maybe, I don't know.

I don't think there is anyway way of telling if the freeze effects the vote unless we actually see the voting figures. I remember one Eviction in BB13 around eight people or more were up for Eviction and Emma or Brian (can't remember who was the host this series) would keep freezing and then re opening the voting lines until it got down to two housemates Luke S and Caroline. Caroline ending up going but when the viewing figures were revealed at the end Luke S would have gone if they didn't keep freezing the lines. This Eviction was a Vote To Save though .

It's a really strange eviction. Looking at the polls and the odds you'd think she has a good chance of staying. But I still feel really worried that she'll be evicted, after what happened last week. And how DID that happen anyway? People say it was because of complacency leading to no one voting for Ash, but who were the people voting for Matthew? Why did they vote when Ash seemed like a sure thing to be evicted? And are those same people voting out Ashleigh this week? Maybe they don't use the internet and just sit in a darkened room constantly redialing Ashleigh's number, so their views aren't reflected on the polls or Facebook.

And I'm worried about the high-pitched "get Ashleigh out" chants returning on Friday and viewers doing as they are ordered...

I agree; however, since Bb sometimes does a freeze and sometimes doesn't, there has to be a suspicion that they're doing something like what you suggested earlier and are freezing when they don't like the way votes are currently going and hope for something different when lines reopen.

But that doesn't mean the freeze will actually work the way they want it to. I can imagine a freeze helping Ashleigh even if it wasn't intended to. For example, suppose Chris and Christopher are saved. Then their supporters no longer have a reason to vote for Ashleigh just because they think she's the most vulnerable and their goal is to save Chris or Christopher. They might still prefer Ashleigh to go, but that tactical reason will cease to exist. Of course, if Jale remains favourite to go in the odds, the tactical votes might be going to her instead. It's hard to predict, because we know so little about who votes and when, and how much they're aware of odds and online polls.


Freezing was available back in the C4 days too.

However, BB now has a different weapon that they'd denied themselves during the C4 years (most of them, at least): the "previously".

It lets BB remind viewers of whatever past events BB would like in viewers' minds Friday night.


Another tactic BB can use -- and I think we saw it when it was Ash vs Toya -- is how much of Friday's show is devoted to Thursday's events, and how much is taken up with reviewing earlier events, talking to friends and family, interviewing people in the crowd, and so on.

On Toya vs Ash Friday, did BB review the things that had turned so many against Ash? No. Did they remind viewers of why they might dislike Toya? Yes. Did they spend a lot of time on Thursday's events when Ash didn't seem so bad. They did.

It was much the same when it was Ash vs Matthew et al. Ash seemed ok. Helen was shown in a good light, which would help Ash indirectly. And so on.

If she survives this weeks eviction, I will catch up on the past week or so I've missed. If she doesn't, I'm done with this rubbish series.

Good luck to Ashleigh this Friday!

Yeah--I think we have to assume that as far as last week---Matthew got voted out because Ashleigh wasn't up and that was the peak of the negativity thrown towards Ashleigh. BUT ALSO it was so assumed that Ash was going that nobody bothered voting to evict Ash. So there is still a very good chance to save Ashleigh because the negativity (hopefully) has died down some. But this time we have to concentrate our vote to Jale so that the vote doesn't get split--otherwise it will be much harder to accomplish our goal of keeping Ashleigh in.

Interesting thread on the main forum posted by skunk-monkey about Ashleigh's 'evil' plan.

Read the first post and watch the video and you may even surprise yourself.
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...6#post73617486

I've seen that clip before, but even I forgot that the context was about saving people. Chris, Christopher, Matthew, and Mark.
And that it wasn't about getting Ash himself, it was about the fact that to save any of these people then they'd need to keep Ash OR Marlon up.

I can't believe that even I had somehow led myself to believe that it was mainly about getting Ash out. But in the video Ashleigh clearly emphasises the point of saving certain people and the means by which they can go about doing it.

If anybody on the forum tries to tell you that Ashleigh had a nasty plan, just give them the link to the video in the first post of the thread that I've linked to.

Yes, there are going to be times when a housemate is so obviously going anyway. Such as a Pauline or a Sezer. But I'd say that there are times when the margins are small and all it needs is a little push in favour of somebody.
But like you say it's hard to know how close the vote actually was if they don't release the percentages any more. Which begs the question why not in itself.

Brilliant. x

We must not be complacent but just vote.

Definitely
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Keep voting to save our fave we could have a good chance of saving ashliegh. If she goes on friday im gunna stop watching it, I wont even tune into armaggedon week, unless its about bringing back old housemates. Not even if helen ends up going. This Fridays gunna be make or break for me depending, on who's evicted.
And I was wondering who ur favs were from last year? Mine were gina and sam and dexter at times. I think it will be interesting to see

Everlasting. You can't post phone numbers on the forum. You'll have to edit your post.
I don't mean to be a hard ass, but DS are really strict about that.

I still fear that on Friday Emma will say something about Ashliegh's "evil plan" (which wasn't REALLY evil, of course, but people take things literally) and the crowd will start booing and the casual viewers will think of Ashleigh as a villain and vote her out...

I know what you mean however all we can do is vote and hope it is enough to keep her in.

It's going to be very close but at least she's got a chance, which is better than it looked this time yesterday. Hopefully she gets a fair edit, although if she doesn't it will probably just make some of us vote more!