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WC2014, Group D: England vs Italy @ Manaus [11pm, BBC 1/HD] |
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Thought both teams were fairly average.
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We haven't looked that composed on the ball and exciting going forward since 1990 (for the first 70 minutes anyway). Wilshere coming on and Rooney not going off hindered the way we finished the game.
We can beat Uruguay and Costa Rica. |
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Hart - dodgy
Johnson - at fault for second goal Cahill - wasn't helped with second goal Jagielka - decent Baines - missing too many times Gerrard - I thought it was Lampard's fault that he couldn't do it for England? Henderson - non-existent Sterling - Excellent Rooney - Made the goal and did nothing else Welbeck - Decent game Sturridge - Shame he had to go off; looked promising before that Barkley - Had bright spells Wilshere - As non-existent as Henderson Lallana - Didn't do much as I said earlier not sure if the formation led to how much of the game bypassed the central midfielders |
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No one ever steps up, and Gerrard is a waste deep for England.
Fack it |
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Lallana, Wilshire and Barkley did nothing once on the pitch, let's start them next time huh?
Got to be better than that Rooney? According to many here. |
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#1256 |
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Costa Rica result has worked well for England. Uruguay could've been a tense, nervy game, but now we know what they'll be coming to do. It's still definitely coming home.
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The two biggest elements to that defeat:
Baines at left back - was consistently outpaced and overlapped by Candreva and Darmian and it was always a matter of time before either of them would produce a cross from that position that could result in a goal and so it proved. Lack of stamina - England really seemed to run out of steam in that second half and as the energy dried up, so did the ideas and so did the skill, as was illustrated by that run of woeful crosses towards the end of that second half. The defence is the bigger problem and Baines must either be replaced or given better cover or he could get similarly torn to shreds by the Uruguyan wingers on Thursday. Full credit to Italy, they were far more solid at the back and with Pirlo running things in midfield and Candreva making those runs down the right wing, they were able to withstand England's pressure and create chances in equal measure. |
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Lallana, Wilshire and Barkley did nothing once on the pitch, let's start them next time huh?
Got to be better than that Rooney? According to many here. So stick with the same shite is your plan?? |
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Sloppy defensively and a few missed chances, but overall we looked good going forward. We could've done with Ashley Cole for that experience really, they were running rings around Baines at times.
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Pirlo failed to complete 5% of his 108 passes tonight, useless.
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late night kick off,
Neville commentating , England playing ........ .insomnia cured..... Priceless. |
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It's more clueless bile than criticism.
I'm a massive Rooney fan, I think he's world class but lets face it, other than the assist tonight he was woeful. |
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Totally gutted by that result!
We dominated Italy in that second half who were camped in their own half! |
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Italy were very, very professional and extremely well organised.
England played well enough though and Sterling had a great game |
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Excellent going forward, the younger players made a real difference, so much more effort than in 2010. We really need to sort out the support for the defence we looked poor at the back
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I was DUDE GUARANTEED a win based on expert analysis of the first half against the scrubs. That's the last time I put my faith in someone who clearly has no clue what they're talking about.
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Glen Johnson
Cole should have made the team instead of that waste of space. |
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Good game, glad Italy won. Pirlo was awesome.
Notice he never suffered from cramp unlike England's midfielders. |
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Johnson and Baines awful. Rooney and Gerrard earn half a million a week between them and can't hit the target from a free kick.
And England played well?? |
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Harsh result on England - they were good for a draw at least, still hope having seen the other 2 teams play.
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Our defence is rubbish.
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Gutted that we lost as felt we dessert a draw but we never really look like scoring a equaliser.
Now we can't not afford to lose to Uruguay on Thursday or we are out of World Cup. |
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Same old story in tournament football, play anyone who isn't completely useless and we lose.
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Tough for us to qualify now
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I was DUDE GUARANTEED a win based on expert analysis of the first half against the scrubs. That's the last time I put my faith in someone who clearly has no clue what they're talking about.
![]() Can't believe we got beaten by a bunch of no mark scrubs. |
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