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France vs Honduras - BBC One 8pm KO
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celesti
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“The whole ball has to go over and one of the replay's showed that wasn't the case.”

Camera angles have always been deceptive, that's why they went with goalline technology as opposed to a fourth official watching replays.
Sattrega
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“The whole ball has to go over and one of the replay's showed that wasn't the case.”

But the first replay is irrelevant, everyone with eyes could see that was no goal.
jenzie
15-06-2014
to me, BY THE TELEVISION PICTURES, it didn't fully cross the line!
by the tech it DID!

it's millimetres though

and good that they show ALL the moments of doubt .....
swaydog
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by Tassium:
“Computer says no... er sorry I mean yes.

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This was always going to happen. The idea that technology can ever remove controversy in football was naive.

It's just another thing to argue about.”

There was no controversy . They showed both so we could see if it was a goal by Benzema or an own goal.
Seemed pretty clear to me.
Pink Knight
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by klunk:
“Jonathan Pearce is so busy getting excited that he is unable to think, sometimes.
That was actually a great test of Goal Line Technology, that it passed.”

It made sense eventually, it was Pearce going into Robot Wars mode that made it seem chaotic.
FrankieFixer
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“Pat Nevin on 5 live - "I don't think it has gone over the line. I am disagreeing with the technology. That is not a goal."

Is he drunk?”

Terrible pundit.
big bro geek
15-06-2014
Am I the only one who doesn't think it went over?
Department_S
15-06-2014
We need in-ear technology to prevent commentators making a right Doyle of themselves in clear cut situations.
Ænima
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“The whole ball has to go over and one of the replay's showed that wasn't the case.”

The angle of the camera can make things look a lot different. It's like in tennis with hawkeye- sometimes you'd swear a ball was on the line, then hawkeye shows it's 5 inches out! It's the angle the reply shows that can be confusing.
BigFoot87
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Camera angles have always been deceptive, that's why they went with goalline technology as opposed to a fourth official watching replays.”

Agreed, but the initial verdict from GLT shouldn't have shown, hence the confusion.
jenzie
15-06-2014
and who cares how many "replays" of instances there are, the one that matters is the one that counts!
Pink Knight
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“The whole ball has to go over and one of the replay's showed that wasn't the case.”

The last replay showed that the keeper pushed it in.
FMKK
15-06-2014
I don't see why the commentators were acting as if*there is some great controversy over the goal line tech. It was pretty obvious what was going on to anyone watching.
Fio Montoya
15-06-2014
What an idiot.
BigFoot87
15-06-2014
Bottom line, GLT works, and France are 2-0 up.
Ænima
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by Pink Knight:
“It made sense eventually, it was Pearce going into Robot Wars mode that made it seem chaotic.”

I remember his commentary on that show. He was usually at least 5 minutes behind everyone else with what he was saying. He's really not the sharpest tool in the box
C Horse
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by Pink Knight:
“How many players need to be sent off to forfeit a match ?”

You can continue with 7 - if one more goes, the match should be abandoned - I THINK one of the Sheffield teams went down to 7 a few years back.

It's a silly rule, because all you then need to do if you are down to 7 is deliberately get another one sent off (to your advantage).

Unless they have changed things ...
Jason C
15-06-2014
The French doing very well not to get unsettled in the face of all this Honduras provocation.

Again, the goal line technology worked fine but was displayed badly in that instance, because you followed the giving of the goal with a graphic that said 'No Goal' - the replay should have only started from the point where the keeper split the ball and it crossed the line.
Sattrega
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“Bottom line, GLT works, and France are 2-0 up. ”

Indeed.
Lisa.B
15-06-2014
At this rate Honduras will be lucky to be able to field a full team for their final group match!
mikeyddd
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“The whole ball has to go over and one of the replay's showed that wasn't the case.”

I don't think it was a goal either
FrankieFixer
15-06-2014
She looked like she had the plague
Tassium
15-06-2014
I think they will be changing the software very soon...

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Prior to goal-line technology, imagine if the referee in a situation like that had first said "no goal" and then a second or two later said "Goal!"

They wouldn't be doing that again for sure.

Because while a computer may see such a thing as two events an actual human being would never do so. So any confusion was quite understandable.
Gort
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“The whole ball has to go over and one of the replay's showed that wasn't the case.”

You're right, that replay didn't convince me at the time that the whole ball had crossed the line. Then what made it worse was that the technology showed a graphic with the ball easily behind the line with a lot of space to spare, more so than it seemed in that replay. I believe it's a goal, but it was damn closer than that technology showed.
celesti
15-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“Agreed, but the initial verdict from GLT shouldn't have shown, hence the confusion.”

Absolutely, it's bewildering that the obvious 'NO GOAL' part was displayed at all.
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