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Hype surrounding Rooney's World Cup is misguided. |
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Hype surrounding Rooney's World Cup is misguided.
He may be a good premiere club player, but he has NEVER played well for England, certainly not to live up to the media's expectations.
Rooney's last World Cup was dismal.. He was one of the worst players on the field so why do they keep picking this dud to play at international level - he's just not an international player. |
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Because international football is more than the 4 or so games every two years.
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Yet another Rooney thread - Jesus wept.
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What hype is this? Whenever Rooney is mentioned by people or the media it's generally to criticise him. There was even a thread in General Discussion where people were talking about the poverty in Brazil and somehow linked that to Rooney. As if it's his duty to be fighting world hunger.
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He may be a good premiere club player, but he has NEVER played well for England, certainly not to live up to the media's expectations.
Rooney's last World Cup was dismal.. He was one of the worst players on the field so why do they keep picking this dud to play at international level - he's just not an international player. |
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Thing is if he gets a couple of Uruguay the media will declare him the messiah, he's either shite or he's God, there's no middle ground, he can't be just another good solid team player.
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Thing is if he gets a couple of Uruguay the media will declare him the messiah, he's either shite or he's God, there's no middle ground, he can't be just another good solid team player.
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I hope that he gets benched against Uruguay and the team get absolutely battered - just wondering how that would be construed as being Rooney's fault?
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Thought Rooney played fairly well v Italy, great run and cross for England's equaliser?
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I hope that he gets benched against Uruguay and the team get absolutely battered - just wondering how that would be construed as being Rooney's fault?
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Thought Rooney played fairly well v Italy, great run and cross for England's equaliser?
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It was his goals that got england to the WC in the first place.he is 5th on england's top goal scorers list and only 11 goals away from the record,its only a matter of time.
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He was probably England's worst player.
Time for another thread surely? Only 17hrs & 20 mins til next match
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Even if he is England's best player, as the pundits continue to insist, that doesn't mean he should always start. Hodgson should pick the most balanced starting eleven, not the best eleven players.
He made one outstanding contribution against Italy, passing to Sturridge to score. But he was a liability in defence in the first half and missed a sitter of a chance to equalise in the second, as well as taking the ball off Barkley and destroying the chance he was creating. He's good but he's not as good as he thinks he is. His first touch is poor and that is a serious issue with the style of play England are using. And of course he has a tendency to wander out of position and go looking for the ball like a kid in the park. |
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Pundits are floating the idea of going 4-4-2 now and Rooney and Sturridge as a partnership.
Hart Johnson Jagielka Cahill Baines Sterling Gerrard Henderson Ox/Welbeck Sturridge Rooney Something like that I guess. |
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Pundits are floating the idea of going 4-4-2 now and Rooney and Sturridge as a partnership.
Hart Johnson Jagielka Cahill Baines Sterling Gerrard Henderson Ox/Welbeck Sturridge Rooney Something like that I guess. If it's true, that's a massive decision. Changing the team just to suit Rooney. If England loose, Rooney will get absolutely slaughtered & Hodgson will be declared a jellyfish & will be picking up his P45. |
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If it's true, that's a massive decision.
Changing the team just to suit Rooney. If England loose, Rooney will get absolutely slaughtered & Hodgson will be declared a jellyfish & will be picking up his P45. Personally I think England need to make more significant changes than that but it's not really to do with Rooney, the problem for me is they're playing with too many forwards and not enough midfielders. |
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Pundits are floating the idea of going 4-4-2 now and Rooney and Sturridge as a partnership.
Hart Johnson Jagielka Cahill Baines Sterling Gerrard Henderson Ox/Welbeck Sturridge Rooney Something like that I guess. Lallana surely has to play on the left. There's no guarantee the Ox is properly fit and Welbeck could be a useful sub for Rooney if he has another off night. |
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Wayne Rooney isn't even England's 5th best player.
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He's never played well for England, ever? Sorry that's utter balls, when he first came through he was outstanding and was in his youth better than Ronaldo and Messi, maybe not as skillful but more dynamic. Of course as they've aged, Ronaldo and Messi evolved way beyond him and have totally eclipsed anything he's ever done. I think his problem is he was built up too much at a young age into the "White Pele" by the English media and didn't think he needed to try harder. Add arrogant personality traits and a dubious lifestyle and he was always the new Gazza rather than a Pele.
Still a "good" player, but never reached the heights he could have done. Its quite sad really. He still produces the occasional moment of magic but I do think the younger England player are clearly better than him in his position. I do think its totally wrong they keep trying to change the formation just to fit him in and its weakening the whole team. If the other players are better, sorry time to say goodbye Wayne. Maybe being benched might make him raise his level. He seemed to raise his game to get that £300,000 a week deal at Man U and then slacked off again immediately afterwards. Perhaps if he realises his England career is on the line and all the lucrative sponsorship deals will go it will have a similar effect? |
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It was his goals that got england to the WC in the first place.he is 5th on england's top goal scorers list and only 11 goals away from the record,its only a matter of time.
If we do badly (or even if we do well but he fails to score) .. he always gets flak. The media are on his back and he's supposed to go out there and play with confidence Wayne isn't our only player .. it's wrong that he's constantly singled out for criticism.Listening to the people that know .. Thierry Henry etc .. they all unequivocally say that they would play him .. no question and I think international fans are just baffled that we are constantly finding fault with arguably our best player. |
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If it's true, that's a massive decision.
Changing the team just to suit Rooney. If England loose, Rooney will get absolutely slaughtered & Hodgson will be declared a jellyfish & will be picking up his P45. |
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If it's true, that's a massive decision.
Changing the team just to suit Rooney. If England loose, Rooney will get absolutely slaughtered & Hodgson will be declared a jellyfish & will be picking up his P45. |
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Love or loathe him, tomorrow is Wayne Rooney's day of judgement. If he fails to deliver, that's it. His international career is over. If we go out of the WC tomorrow I can't see him being picked for the Euro 2016 qualifiers.
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Love or loathe him, tomorrow is Wayne Rooney's day of judgement. If he fails to deliver, that's it. His international career is over. If we go out of the WC tomorrow I can't see him being picked for the Euro 2016 qualifiers.
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Wayne isn't our only player .. it's wrong that he's constantly singled out for criticism.