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3 to end Unlimited Tethering?
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moox
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Existing customers don't have to re-contract, they can just keep rolling on the same deal. They only re-contract if they take out a new contract, otherwise you should keep your existing deal.”

Presumably 3 will be in a position to change the tariff or force a move with no penalty on their part, once the 12 month or whatever term is over.
wavejockglw
18-06-2014
Keeping an existing deal might mean paying a handset cost......for those on One Plan contracts with handsets. My information is that if you want a new handset you have to agree to the new terms with tethering limits.

One Plan SIM only is pretty clear. The one month is simple, it rolls over with the terms applicable each time it is renewed as does the 12 month deal. So after 13 months 3 should have no customers on unlimited tethering on any SIM only deal and the numbers will be reduced greatly as monthly renewals take place.
Thine Wonk
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“Keeping an existing deal might mean paying a handset cost......for those on One Plan contracts with handsets. My information is that if you want a new handset you have to agree to the new terms with tethering limits.

One Plan SIM only is pretty clear. The one month is simple, it rolls over with the terms applicable each time it is renewed as does the 12 month deal. So after 13 months 3 should have no customers on unlimited tethering on any SIM only deal and the numbers will be reduced greatly as monthly renewals take place.”

No, you don't agree to a new contract by continuing to roll over an existing contract past once the minimum term expires, unless you have evidence otherwise Wavejock?
Silent No More
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“One Plan SIM only is pretty clear. The one month is simple, it rolls over with the terms applicable each time it is renewed as does the 12 month deal. So after 13 months 3 should have no customers on unlimited tethering on any SIM only deal and the numbers will be reduced greatly as monthly renewals take place.”

Just to be clear:

Are you saying that people who are currently on a 12 month One Plan contract (that includes unlimited tethering), will lose that after 13 months?
jabbamk1
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by Silent No More:
“Just to be clear:

Are you saying that people who are currently on a 12 month One Plan contract (that includes unlimited tethering), will lose that after 13 months?”

They won't.

If you're on the One Plan SIM Only you keep unlimited data.

Wavejock seems to forget the One plan was first introduced in 2010. There are loads of people on the one month rolling version.
Silent No More
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“They won't.

If you're on the One Plan SIM Only you keep unlimited data.

Wavejock seems to forget the One plan was first introduced in 2010. There are loads of people on the one month rolling version.”

I know, I just wanted to hear wavejock make a clear & unambiguous statement, to support him saying people would lose it.
Thine Wonk
18-06-2014
Three explain that there is a minimum term, but you can continue the agreement. You don't re-contract every month, as long as don't re-contract you keep your existing deal.
jabbamk1
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by Silent No More:
“I know, I just wanted to hear wavejock make a clear & unambiguous statement, to support him saying people would lose it.”

Yeh this is what I don't get.

Wavejock has always said that what I say must be true, yet when I say something he disagrees with he says it's not true.

If what wavejock said is true then people on the original one plan would have lost their picture message allowance ages ago. Yet i know a friend on an old one plan one month rolling contract with picture messages. They don't just disappear just because the plan changes for new customers.
nafanny29
18-06-2014
RIP unlimited tethering for new customers. Although 2GB is sufficient for people except "broadband replacement" customers!
mogzyboy
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“One Plan SIM only is pretty clear. The one month is simple, it rolls over with the terms applicable each time it is renewed as does the 12 month deal. So after 13 months 3 should have no customers on unlimited tethering on any SIM only deal and the numbers will be reduced greatly as monthly renewals take place.”

This is incorrect.

As somebody who insists on posters attaching sources to things they post, you are terribly neglectful when it comes to backing up what you post with sources for your information. The reason for this is, of course, because you are usually offering misinformation and inaccuracies like the part of your post that I quoted.

I would strongly urge the mods to do something about this as the poster is a hindrance to anybody who might be searching for accurate information to help them out.
jabbamk1
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by mogzyboy:
“I would strongly urge the mods to do something about this as the poster is a hindrance to anybody who might be searching for accurate information to help them out.”

Just report his posts.

I would call him the "T" word but I don't want to get banned (for stating the truth)
tghe-retford
18-06-2014
We can find out soon enough. My One Plan contract ends on July 1st.

Irony, I know...
jabbamk1
18-06-2014
It's just like legacy full monty customers. They still get unlimited data and tethering.

In the same way legacy Three customers will get unlimited data and tethering.
dangetti
18-06-2014
I have emailed my contact within Three about this and will await a reply in the morning once it has been looked into.

Might just be a glitch with the site as the T&C remain the same about being on the One Plan allows AYCE tethering.

Let's just wait a night to see what info comes back before everyone panics lol
gardensleeper
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by jabbamk1:
“It's just like legacy full monty customers. They still get unlimited data and tethering.

In the same way legacy Three customers will get unlimited data and tethering.”

I had an interesting moment sharing my 3 one plan connection with a mate who's EE 4G plan had virtually run out of data, while we were having a beer.

He's not that into the world of phones, so couldn't beleive my claim that I could share my connection with him via wifi, and "give him my internet" (as he put it).

He enjoys regular, decent double digit/mb speeds on EE4G, and was incredulous that my connection was truly unlimited.

Halfway into him downloading a 200mb file, he noted that my connection speed had dropped rapidly - to less than 0.5mb.

- "So that's how they do it then" - he said. "They give you unlimited data, but if you hammer it, they slow you down so much you don't bother to use it. I think I'd rather stick with a limited amout that stayed fast"

Now, i know it's not always as clear cut as that, as I've enjoyed some great, consistent tethering speeds in other locations - but, I thought his observations of the situation put an interesting spin on our notion of "unlimited".
wavejockglw
18-06-2014
All contracts are renewed at their end date. It is up to the network to allow customers to renew on their previous terms or renew on the basis of the terms offered at the time of renewal. I can't see any point in advertising new terms if they don't apply to renewals. So my understanding is when 1 or 12 month contracts reach renewal date they will be offered with the same terms that apply to new customers.

One Plan customers presently looking to upgrade are being offered new handsets on the resvised deals with a strict 2GB per month tethering limit. Allowing SIM only customers to continue to tether unlimited indefinately makes no sense whatsoever.
jabbamk1
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“All contracts are renewed at their end date. It is up to the network to allow customers to renew on their previous terms or renew on the basis of the terms offered at the time of renewal. I can't see any point in advertising new terms if they don't apply to renewals. So my understanding is when 1 or 12 month contracts reach renewal date they will be offered with the same terms that apply to new customers.”

Contracts aren't renewed automatically.

Stop making stuff up again.

Your contract will continue to roll over on the same plan with the same T&C. Just like how legacy full monty users (as long as they don't change plan) will always have unlimited data and tethering.

You're purposely giving misinformation again. No surprise seeing as it's about Three.

Only if you change your tariff yourself (either by upgrading to a phone or moving to a different SIM tariff) would you lose the unlimited tethering aspect.
Silent No More
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“All contracts are renewed at their end date. It is up to the network to allow customers to renew on their previous terms or renew on the basis of the terms offered at the time of renewal. I can't see any point in advertising new terms if they don't apply to renewals. So my understanding is when 1 or 12 month contracts reach renewal date they will be offered with the same terms that apply to new customers.”

Utter nonsense.
mogzyboy
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“All contracts are renewed at their end date. It is up to the network to allow customers to renew on their previous terms or renew on the basis of the terms offered at the time of renewal. I can't see any point in advertising new terms if they don't apply to renewals. So my understanding is when 1 or 12 month contracts reach renewal date they will be offered with the same terms that apply to new customers.”

Congrats on missing the post bout TMO's legacy Full Monty contracts...........

Sheesh!
wavejockglw
18-06-2014
What 3 does remains to be seen, but when a contract ends it has to be mutually agreed to continue on thee same basis or for new terms to be accepted to enter into a new agreement. It's not nonsense, it's common business practice.

I know what has been happening with One Plan customers seeking an upgrade on present terms so I expect similar to happen with SIM only if/when changes are made.
Thine Wonk
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“All contracts are renewed at their end date. It is up to the network to allow customers to renew on their previous terms or renew on the basis of the terms offered at the time of renewal. I can't see any point in advertising new terms if they don't apply to renewals. So my understanding is when 1 or 12 month contracts reach renewal date they will be offered with the same terms that apply to new customers.”

Utter rubbish, it is a 'rolling contract' with a minimum term of 1 month or 12 months for sim only One Plan.

http://www.three.co.uk/Discover/Phon...lling_contract

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...lling-contract

Quote:
“a contract that continues until someone decides to end it, rather than one that continues until a particular date:”

wavejockglw
18-06-2014
All contracts are rolling to some extent, networks don't suddenly cut folks off after their contract end date.... do they? Handset inclusive ones have the handset cost within them and at the end of 24 months if you want to keep paying for a device that you have already paid for to retain the terms that is your 'expensive' decision .

SIM only is a different proposition with customers buying the contract terms in effect at the time of their renewal. There is absolutely no guarantee that the terms for renewal will be the same as previously offered or agreed to. You can be a regular car hire customer with privileges but each new rental has a new hire agreement with it's own conditions and the same applies with fixed term contracts of any kind including mobile service provision.
Thine Wonk
18-06-2014
Handset contracts stopped allowing unlimited tethering a while back as you well know Wavejock, so there's absolutely no change to this as the changes already happened earlier in the year.

This recent change about Sim Only One Plan contracts, which are 1 month or 12 month rolling contracts
mogzyboy
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Handset contracts stopped allowing unlimited tethering a while back as you well know. Wavejock.

This discussion is about Sim Only One Plan contracts, which are 1 month or 12 month rolling contracts.”

Shall I explain to you what happens? What will happen is this...

When my 12 month One Plan ends on 29th September, my plan will continue to roll over on a month-by-month basis for as long as I choose to keep it. The terms will remain the same unless Three decide to change them. They will NOT automatically move me onto new T's&C's. If they want to move me onto new terms, they will notify me by way of a letter or email.

If I am unhappy with these new terms, I can move to another operator if I wish, as I am not within a minimum term period.

It really isn't that difficult to grasp. However, it seems that it is for you.
d123
18-06-2014
Originally Posted by wavejockglw:
“What 3 does remains to be seen, but when a contract ends it has to be mutually agreed to continue on thee same basis or for new terms to be accepted to enter into a new agreement. It's not nonsense, it's common business practice. ”

No, it's not.


Please STOP posting rubbish. Are you posting simply to elicit responses from other users? I'm sure that's against the rules...
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