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COM8 running - has PIDs
COM8 came up at approx 2pm from Winter Hill and isn't just null packets.
A pidscan is showing: Code:
dvbsnoop V1.4.50 -- http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/ --------------------------------------------------------- Transponder PID-Scan... --------------------------------------------------------- PID found: 0 (0x0000) [SECTION: Program Association Table (PAT)] PID found: 16 (0x0010) [SECTION: Network Information Table (NIT) - actual network] PID found: 17 (0x0011) [SECTION: Service Description Table (SDT) - actual transport stream] PID found: 18 (0x0012) [SECTION: Event Information Table (EIT) - actual transport stream, schedule] PID found: 20 (0x0014) [SECTION: Time Offset Table (TOT)] PID found: 100 (0x0064) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 101 (0x0065) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] PID found: 102 (0x0066) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] PID found: 199 (0x00c7) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 200 (0x00c8) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] PID found: 8191 (0x1fff) [stuffing] I'm just trying to dump a sample of the mux and get it into tsreaderlite to see what it sees. (edit: tsreaderlite doesn't like it, it crashes!) |
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And here is what mediainfo makes of the mux:
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General ID : 61440 (0xF000) Complete name : com8.wh.ts Format : MPEG-TS File size : 285 MiB Duration : 59s 328ms Start time : UTC 2014-06-19 13:19:18 End time : UTC 2014-06-19 13:19:20 Overall bit rate mode : Variable Overall bit rate : 40.3 Mbps Network name : Test Original network name : UK Digital Terrestrial Television Country : GBR Timezone : +01:00:00 Audio ID : 102 (0x66) Menu ID : 61440 (0xF000) / 61504 (0xF040) Format : AAC Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Format profile : LC Muxing mode : LATM Codec ID : 17 Duration : 59s 328ms Bit rate mode : Variable Channel count : 2 channels Channel positions : Front: L R Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz Compression mode : Lossy Language : English Menu #1 ID : 100 (0x64) Menu ID : 61440 (0xF000) List : 101 (0x65) () / 102 (0x66) (AAC, English) Language : / English Service name : Test Service type : reserved for future use UTC 2014-06-16 15:00:00 : en:Event name / en:Event description / / / 01:00:00 / UTC 2014-06-16 16:00:00 : en:Event name / 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Preparing for BBC RB streams presumably.
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I thought Channel 4 were going to have some new HD channels? That's all gone very quiet.
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Preparing for BBC RB streams presumably.
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No, my money is on 4k UHD test transmissions, first trial match broadcast is next week
It makes sense that Winter Hill would have it - that being the tx for Salford Quays/Media City where BBC Sport are hq'd and BBC R&D have a significant presence at their North Lab. Anyone else seeing COM8 up - CP maybe? Anyone any clues what can decode HEVC on a linux pc, and how I'd go about it to see what the video contains? |
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I'm guessing the OP called it Com8 because they were checking the frequency *reserved for Com8, which wouldn't be the UHD test. Also I think the UHD is only coming from Crystal Palace (which doesn't have a new mux, yet) My money is on Red Button HD for Wimbledon/Commonwealth Games. EDIT: Quote:
It makes sense that Winter Hill would have it - that being the tx for Salford Quays/Media City where BBC Sport are hq'd and BBC R&D have a significant presence at their North Lab. Anyone else seeing COM8 up - CP maybe?
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Anyone else seeing COM8 up - CP maybe?
I repeat, when are we getting the extra HD channels from C4? They were the other announced broadcaster in addition to the BBC. |
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COM8 came up on Sandy Heath the same day COM7 came up a few weeks before Christmas, and has been up ever since. No services on COM8 but I check the signal strength and try scanning it for channels about once a month. My Humax HDR Fox T2 never finds any on it.
I repeat, when are we getting the extra HD channels from C4? They were the other announced broadcaster in addition to the BBC. I have no idea re C4's rumoured HD channels, there are other threads mulling that one over. I just try to report what I see.
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Bandwidth
So some bandwidth snapshots per pid...
Here's the pidscan list again with approx bandwidth values added at the start of each line: Code:
15 kbit/s PID found: 0 (0x0000) [SECTION: Program Association Table (PAT)] 0.3 kbit/s PID found: 16 (0x0010) [SECTION: Network Information Table (NIT) - actual network] 1.6 kbit/s PID found: 17 (0x0011) [SECTION: Service Description Table (SDT) - actual transport stream] 25 kbit/s PID found: 18 (0x0012) [SECTION: Event Information Table (EIT) - actual transport stream, schedule] 3.5 kbit/s PID found: 20 (0x0014) [SECTION: Time Offset Table (TOT)] 15.1 kbit/s PID found: 100 (0x0064) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] 36200 kbit/s PID found: 101 (0x0065) [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream] 150 kbit/s PID found: 102 (0x0066) [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream] 45.2 kbit/s PID found: 199 (0x00c7) [unknown] 15.1 kbit/s PID found: 200 (0x00c8) [SECTION: Program Map Table (PMT)] 3700 kbit/s PID found: 8191 (0x1fff) [stuffing] |
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No, my money is on 4k UHD test transmissions, first trial match broadcast is next week
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COM8 came up on Sandy Heath the same day COM7 came up a few weeks before Christmas, and has been up ever since. No services on COM8 but I check the signal strength and try scanning it for channels about once a month.
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I hope it's UHD trials and that it will be visible for recording. I'd like to compare 1080i/25 to 2160p/50 for football.
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Sorry to go OT but what frequency are you checking? I can't see anything.
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Sorry to go OT but what frequency are you checking? I can't see anything.
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If it's anything like the 8k Olympics at 50fps shown by the BBC, don't get your hopes up. It really needs over 100fps.
I found this thread: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1940308 but there's nothing on Ch34 at Sandy. Edit: Cross posting noted. Thanks for the info guys. |
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I hope it's UHD trials and that it will be visible for recording. I'd like to compare 1080i/25 to 2160p/50 for football.
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If it's anything like the 8k Olympics at 50fps shown by the BBC, don't get your hopes up. It really needs over 100fps.
I found this thread: http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1940308 but there's nothing on Ch34 at Sandy. Edit: Cross posting noted. |
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It seems rather a waste to use it for football, there is much better content a 4K trial could use. Off topic I realise, but I would like to draw people's attention to the fact that life does not start and end with football for some of us. It's going to be a miserable couple of weeks, the sooner England get knocked out the better and then the TV schedules for other things are less likely to be disrupted with zero notice.
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I think it's more to do with the fact that they using the FIFA UHD stream for the purpose of the test, so a real time test of a UHD feed being distributed via internet and terrestrial using HEVC - no need to create alternative UHD content for the trial.
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OK well C34 did have an empty DVB-T2 mux on it from Sandy Heath for ages, months on end. Maybe someone finally noticed and switched it off?
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It seems rather a waste to use it for football.
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It seems rather a waste to use it for football, there is much better content a 4K trial could use. Off topic I realise, but I would like to draw people's attention to the fact that life does not start and end with football for some of us. It's going to be a miserable couple of weeks, the sooner England get knocked out the better and then the TV schedules for other things are less likely to be disrupted with zero notice.
Secondly, whether England get eliminated tomorrow or make it to the final doesn't change the fact that every match will be on TV. |
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And then there's Wimbledon, Glastonbury, the British Grand Prix and the Commonwealth Games to fill the schedules...
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You've omitted the Tour de France from July 5th starting in Yorkshire.
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I have no idea re C4's rumoured HD channels, there are other threads mulling that one over. I just try to report what I see.
