Ahh Martial Arts...cheers..

I think it's Kim's own fault. She knew what Helen and Toya were like from the beginning. She jumped ship and no one else.
Also I agree with Helen (Never thought i'd say that) she is very pretty to look at but when she speaks there is nothing there,

I never knew Kimberly had a go at Jale, how come we never saw this

Kimberley is for me far too joyless and humourless and is completely unable to laugh at herself. Her voice also irritates me as it's so monotone

However I would take ten Kimberleys over Helen any day of the week and three times on Sunday. Helen is making a big deal out of nothing and using it to pick on someone else in the house. Helen is a bully and the sooner she is out of that house the better IMHO.

I think it's just the opposite I think when she talks to them she is so far above them intellectuality they don't get it if your not bulling and bitching 24/7 they don't get it

Which ship did she jump from?

I would agree with that summation.

I'd rather that though than nasty venomous Helen.

No ship. The ship does not exist.

People are keen to immediately lump people into groups (or ships!) and fail to accept that people and group dynamics can change, and change for a multitude of reasons.

Even if someone is part of one group and moves to another or chooses to change their mind and move between many, they can be accused of all sorts on here- turncoat, two faced, fickle etc. Sure it could be one of those things but it could be a hell of a load of (or combination of) others. Those tend to get ignored.

To say someone has jumped ship or to imply if they do that it is always 100% a negative thing is somewhat disingenuous imo.

She is extremely intelligent, but she never actually says anything, she never completes a full sentence, sometimes you never actually know what point she is trying to get across. when she speaks, its dull, no emotion, compassion, expression to her,she is monotone.

I wouldn't class this as bullying, as Kimberly has done her fair share of bitching behind backs and games.

I dislike Helen and Toya, but I do agree that she is dull.

I was just going to mention her monotone voice and expressionless face. I was liking Kim at first but now find her very hard to listen too. She sends me to sleep.

Also I think there's an element that because when she speaks it's quite measured, eloquent and she doesn't sound like a chav certain people have a hard time relating to her. So they brand her personality-less because she communicates in a way alien to them

Seriously

it's an idioms. It's what you learn in Primary school. E.G a chip on the shoulder, A dime a dozen etc

I haven't seen much evidence of her intellect tbh. She doesn't really say very much or get involved in stuff for us to know how intelligent she might be. She has a law degree but that only measures one sort of intelligence. She is I think a strategic thinker, although we haven't had much outward commitment from her to the game.

What bitching has she actually done? The one night she was talking about Jale? Other than that, has t she confronted people she has had issues with, and not fine so much bitching?

I think what I like most about her is her lack of "emotion" I find that quite fascinating.

But as I have said in Star Trek my favourites were Spock-Data and The Doctor (Voyager)

Show that video on the plasma that would shake things up. Imo Kimberly has more class than Helen will ever have Kimberly would wipe the floor with her.

I think she is very intelligent you can tell just by the way she does speak when she has something to say look at the way she spoke to Marlon she didn't go in ranting and shrieking she explained it very intelligently and calmly

And how is that explaining which ship?

Totally agree with this.

I think there is a huge element of exactly this. If you're not some loud lairy chav or moronic gobsh*te then people can totally misinterpret it and if it's someone like Kimberly on a show like BB, chances are more often than not it will be negative.

People can mistake a calm and collected exterior for a lack of emotion but I would say that is far too simplistic an assumption to make, as well as an incorrect one imo.

She has far more personality and emotion than the brain dead Winston and yet of course the general interpretation of this on here surprises me not.

With regard to what you say about her and Marlon..to me that sounds interesting..regardless of her sound of voice..i look forward to watching.

She's talked about Tamara, Helen and Pauline behind their backs.Never once said it to their face. She tried to set Jale up, she's talked about Jale behind her back and in the VT on this thread, it seems to had another go at Jale which hasn't be aired.

Whether you do it once or ten times behind somebody's back, its bitching. If you can't say it to their face, then you will get that label.

yawn, so not worthy of a decent reply. Shall not waste time on this!

Doesn't mean it's an accurate label though.

She studied for her law degree in Oxford I think

No love for Tuvak and Seven of Nine?...add these and we're agreed...