Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“At championship level at best. Don't rate him whatsoever.”
“At championship level at best. Don't rate him whatsoever.”
He got spurs to the champions league
So bet's on next England Manager
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Originally Posted by celesti:
“It's not an insult, it's a belief. You reckon a coach has to be under 45 right? Check the ages of the Italian and Uruguayan managers who beat us. Or the Brazilian coach. Or Dutch. Chile have impressed right? Go check. Argentina. Germany. I'll wait here.
The only coach that really falls within your remit is Deschamps, who's 45 and therefore on borrowed time as he'll magically crumble within the year.”
“It's not an insult, it's a belief. You reckon a coach has to be under 45 right? Check the ages of the Italian and Uruguayan managers who beat us. Or the Brazilian coach. Or Dutch. Chile have impressed right? Go check. Argentina. Germany. I'll wait here.
The only coach that really falls within your remit is Deschamps, who's 45 and therefore on borrowed time as he'll magically crumble within the year.”
National managers tend to be fading club managers. Roy was just never a decent club manager. In my defence I nominate Capello.
Anyway, on this basis France will go deep. Thanks for doing the research.
Seriously I think a league coach has to do a lot of racing around. As you get older you want to relax. You need someone young a nd thrusting.
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“You cannot deny he is a good manager tho”
“You cannot deny he is a good manager tho”
I really don't think he is suited to International football. He's never coached abroad, he has virtually no tactical nous. He's not a training ground coach, he leaves that to an army of assistant coaches (no coincidence that QPR were a hundred times better at the start of the season when Mclaren was coaching them). Harry loves wheeling and dealing and bringing in players (especially on deadline day with nice hefty bonuses) the one thing you can't do as an International manager. He'd schmooze the press though, they'd love him.
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“Do not worry mate I was hated yesterday on here he will move on to someoneelse tomorrow. Typical DS”
“Do not worry mate I was hated yesterday on here he will move on to someoneelse tomorrow. Typical DS”
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“I take this back you are ageist”
“I take this back you are ageist”
Apology accepted.
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Apology accepted.”
“Apology accepted.”
No bother mate your are right the older the manager the more experienced
Originally Posted by Dandem:
“No idea, but I'd be surprised if Hodgson is still the manager by the time the first Euro qualifier comes up.
He's an enormous part of the problem.”
“No idea, but I'd be surprised if Hodgson is still the manager by the time the first Euro qualifier comes up.
He's an enormous part of the problem.”
He can take the defence with him then.
Cahill is the best of a bad bunch.
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“National managers tend to be fading club managers. Roy was just never a decent club manager. In my defence I nominate Capello.
Anyway, on this basis France will go deep. Thanks for doing the research.
Seriously I think a league coach has to do a lot of racing around. As you get older you want to relax. You need someone young a nd thrusting.”
“National managers tend to be fading club managers. Roy was just never a decent club manager. In my defence I nominate Capello.
Anyway, on this basis France will go deep. Thanks for doing the research.
Seriously I think a league coach has to do a lot of racing around. As you get older you want to relax. You need someone young a nd thrusting.”
As I've said, you know nothing about football. Feel free to red alert away.
Guus Hiddink would have been the only logical choice. He has a proven record in doing well with mediocre players and would have fitted England like a glove.
Sadly though Holland have him.
Sadly though Holland have him.
Unless we go for another foreign manager, there really isn't a viable alternative to Roy. I'm firmly convinced that Redknapp would be an absolute disaster.
In any case, our squad is absolutely dire and there's not much talent coming through right now. The future looks extremely bleak.
The premiership does our international game no favours at all. All the best players in it are foreign and the same can be said of the managers now as well. The fact is, we're not producing world class players.
In any case, our squad is absolutely dire and there's not much talent coming through right now. The future looks extremely bleak.
The premiership does our international game no favours at all. All the best players in it are foreign and the same can be said of the managers now as well. The fact is, we're not producing world class players.
Originally Posted by DUNDEEBOY:
“Gary Neville”
“Gary Neville”
Not ready yet. Which is another reason to keep Roy on beyond this failure and keep Nev as assistant coach.
Alex Ferguson. Based on his record he's the best choice.
But I don't think any manager can make England play better international football. We're not meant to be world beaters.
But I don't think any manager can make England play better international football. We're not meant to be world beaters.
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“Not ready yet. Which is another reason to keep Roy on beyond this failure and keep Nev as assistant coach.”
“Not ready yet. Which is another reason to keep Roy on beyond this failure and keep Nev as assistant coach.”
Not sure England are frightened of putting a young manager in. Not an issue for the Dutch and Germans in the recent past.
Hoddle was a youngish manager, that's been the only one
Originally Posted by stv viewer:
“You cannot deny he is a good manager tho”
“You cannot deny he is a good manager tho”
Harry is a reasonably good club manager who can put a squad together - usually at great expense.
Give him ordinary players to work with and he doesn't cut it. He's been relegated from the premiership twice because he couldn't turn things around or get more out of the players that were already there.
In short, Redknapp can't polish a turd and that's what England are right now. Hiddink is the one manager out there who can do that, but we won't be getting him.
Originally Posted by celesti:
“As I've said, you know nothing about football. Feel free to red alert away.”
“As I've said, you know nothing about football. Feel free to red alert away.”
I wouldn't do that. Just be nice. I know plenty. We'll see.
We won't see anything. You've suggested 45 years old is a cut-off point for any useful manager, and there was a load of guff about other sports, tip of the iceberg stuff.
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“I wouldn't do that. Just be nice. I know plenty. We'll see.”
“I wouldn't do that. Just be nice. I know plenty. We'll see.”
Play nicely u 2
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“Not ready yet. Which is another reason to keep Roy on beyond this failure and keep Nev as assistant coach.”
“Not ready yet. Which is another reason to keep Roy on beyond this failure and keep Nev as assistant coach.”
But if Roy has another poor tournament, does he become tarnished by the association with him?
I'd like to see Roy still in charge at the Euros, in 2 years there may be better options open. If he's sacked tomorrow just gamble with Neville, or failing that Curbishley for England!
Originally Posted by morganb1611:
“But if Roy has another poor tournament, does he become tarnished by the association with him?
I'd like to see Roy still in charge at the Euros, in 2 years there may be better options open. If he's sacked tomorrow just gamble with Neville, or failing that Curbishley for England!”
“But if Roy has another poor tournament, does he become tarnished by the association with him?
I'd like to see Roy still in charge at the Euros, in 2 years there may be better options open. If he's sacked tomorrow just gamble with Neville, or failing that Curbishley for England!”
He wont be sacked tomorrow
Originally Posted by morganb1611:
“But if Roy has another poor tournament, does he become tarnished by the association with him?
I'd like to see Roy still in charge at the Euros, in 2 years there may be better options open”
“But if Roy has another poor tournament, does he become tarnished by the association with him?
I'd like to see Roy still in charge at the Euros, in 2 years there may be better options open”
Maybe, hopefully we'll have at least a moderately successful tournament in 2 years and then Neville will seem like the natural successor.
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
“I fully expect Hodgson to remain in charge and see no reason for him not to.”
“I fully expect Hodgson to remain in charge and see no reason for him not to.”
That's pretty obvious to me to, he comes across well and has shown he is willing to go with youth.
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