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Last time a team qualified from losing their first two matches?
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cooler
19-06-2014
In the World Cup, when was the last time a team qualified from the group stage after losing their first two matches?
Sattrega
19-06-2014
Never.
MARTYM8
19-06-2014
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“Never.”

Is that definite?

I know it's highly improbable but it's not inconceivable - England beat Costa Rica by 2 clear goals and Italy beat Uruguay and the Costa Ricans easily.

Surely there must gave been such a scenario before.
Peter Venkman
19-06-2014
Many years ago. In a galaxy far far away.
Sattrega
19-06-2014
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Is that definite?

I know it's highly improbable but it's not inconceivable - England beat Costa Rica by 2 clear goals and Italy beat Uruguay and the Costa Ricans easily.

Surely there must gave been such a scenario before.”

I'm going on what the BBC website states. Says no side has ever progressed from the group stage after losing their opening two group games.
celesti
19-06-2014
The closest I can see is that Chile got out of a group with three points in 1998, but that was all draws so the rest of the group makeup was different.
DUNDEEBOY
19-06-2014
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“I'm going on what the BBC website states. Says no side has ever progressed from the group stage after losing their opening two group games.”

There was an outside chance holland could have done it in the euros two years ago, but no one has ever qualified with 3 points with one win and two,losses
Flat Matt
19-06-2014
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Is that definite?

I know it's highly improbable but it's not inconceivable - England beat Costa Rica by 2 clear goals and Italy beat Uruguay and the Costa Ricans easily.

Surely there must gave been such a scenario before.”

I really don't see it happening to be honest.

After our performance tonight, I'm beginning to wonder just how good this Italy team is. We looked better against them than we did against Uruguay, which might suggest that this Italian side is not as good as we might have thought. I wouldn't be surprised if Uruguay turned them over.
DUNDEEBOY
19-06-2014
Originally Posted by Flat Matt:
“I really don't see it happening to be honest.

After our performance tonight, I'm beginning to wonder just how good this Italy team is. We looked better against them than we did against Uruguay, which might suggest that this Italian side is not as good as we might have thought. I wouldn't be surprised if Uruguay turned them over.”

Nor would I be surprised if Costa Rica get a result against them either
DangerBrother
20-06-2014
Nazereth United in 30 AD
gemma-the-husky
20-06-2014
Italy may not be good, but you wont find out until they go behind. Mind you their defence doesnt look as tight as italian defences of old.

Italy, brazil, argentina have all looked vaguely uncomfortable, but havent fallen behind. We have never got in front.

When you are not behind you can coast along, save energy etc.
Drunken Scouser
20-06-2014
Let's try to put it in percentage terms:

What's the percentage likelihood of Italy beating Costa Rica? Let's say 70%.

What's the likelihood of England then beating Costa Rica? 60% maybe?

60% of 70 is 42%.

What's the likelihood then of Italy beating Uruguay? Pehaps 40% is a good guess?

40% of 42 is about 17%, meaning a roughly 1 in 6 chance for England.

Bear in mind England's goal difference has to better than Uruguay & Costa Rica, and that reduces the odds further. It's therefore a long shot, but much stranger things have happened before in football.
Deserana 12
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Flat Matt:
“I really don't see it happening to be honest.

After our performance tonight, I'm beginning to wonder just how good this Italy team is. We looked better against them than we did against Uruguay, which might suggest that this Italian side is not as good as we might have thought. I wouldn't be surprised if Uruguay turned them over.”

We stepped up our game for Italy. We dropped off big time against Uruguay. CR played a piss poor Uruguay which probably made them look better. I think they'll be 2-0/2-1 tomorrow and it will come down to next week.

My main worry isn't the games going our way, when you think about it Italy should kinda do it comfortably, my main worry is that even when it comes to it we simply dont score enough against Costa Rica and that Roy will plan defensively instead of attack.
mattlamb
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Deserana 12:
“We stepped up our game for Italy. We dropped off big time against Uruguay. CR played a piss poor Uruguay which probably made them look better. I think they'll be 2-0/2-1 tomorrow and it will come down to next week.

My main worry isn't the games going our way, when you think about it Italy should kinda do it comfortably, my main worry is that even when it comes to it we simply dont score enough against Costa Rica and that Roy will plan defensively instead of attack.”

I wouldn't say it's impossible that Italy win their last two games at all.
And we are certainly capable of beating Costa Rica.

Italy may coast the game against Uruquay if they win today,, and therefore lose or draw against Uruquay
However, I'm thinking they would like to knock out Uruquay of they get the chance (they must know that Luis Suarez has the talent to beat other teams virtually single-handedly later on in the competition).
biggeral
20-06-2014
In answer to OP's question, never, but in 1982 Algeria won 2 games and failed to qualify.
carnoch04
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Drunken Scouser:
“Let's try to put it in percentage terms:

What's the percentage likelihood of Italy beating Costa Rica? Let's say 70%.

What's the likelihood of England then beating Costa Rica? 60% maybe?

60% of 70 is 42%.

What's the likelihood then of Italy beating Uruguay? Pehaps 40% is a good guess?

40% of 42 is about 17%, meaning a roughly 1 in 6 chance for England.

Bear in mind England's goal difference has to better than Uruguay & Costa Rica, and that reduces the odds further. It's therefore a long shot, but much stranger things have happened before in football.”

MOTD has just quoted a 12% chance of England going through.
I think most people are assuming that Italy and England will both beat Costa Rica and I am unsure what that confidence is based on. Costa Rica looked sharp to me.
Mandark
20-06-2014
Saw on Twitter, that the USA managed it in 2009 Confederations Cup. Brazil won all their games. USA beat Egypt. Italy beat USA. Egypt beat Italy.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_...ederations_Cup
JBO
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Drunken Scouser:
“Let's try to put it in percentage terms:

What's the percentage likelihood of Italy beating Costa Rica? Let's say 70%.

What's the likelihood of England then beating Costa Rica? 60% maybe?

60% of 70 is 42%.

What's the likelihood then of Italy beating Uruguay? Pehaps 40% is a good guess?

40% of 42 is about 17%, meaning a roughly 1 in 6 chance for England.

Bear in mind England's goal difference has to better than Uruguay & Costa Rica, and that reduces the odds further. It's therefore a long shot, but much stranger things have happened before in football.”



England don't need to worry about GD re Uruguay. If Uruguay lose to Italy and England beat Costa Rica on Tuesday, England's GD has to be better than Uruguay's. If all 3 results go England's way, it's just Costa Rica's GD they need to overhaul.
Amanda_Raymond
20-06-2014
Maybe we just wait to see what happens tonight, then worry about goal difference, btw if Costa Rica beat Italy they'll go through
Peter Venkman
20-06-2014
Basically we need to support Italy for their two matches. For the next two games, Balotelli is our hero and we want him to find the back of the net over and over.
Deserana 12
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Peter Venkman:
“Basically we need to support Italy for their two matches. For the next two games, Balotelli is our hero and we want him to find the back of the net over and over.”

Just twice in the first game will do. Just enough to make them hungry for the Uruguay game.
whedon247
20-06-2014
cant shake this feeling that we are gonna qualify

maybe its just because everyone assuming we already out ,i dunno.

but heres hoping!
Wallasey Saint
20-06-2014
Think the nearest was England in Mexico 86, lost the first group game & drew the second game so had to win the last group game but in that World Cup up to USA 94 you could qualify finishing one of the 4 best placed teams in 3rd position
Ænima
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“cant shake this feeling that we are gonna qualify

maybe its just because everyone assuming we already out ,i dunno.

but heres hoping!”

There's a reason people are assuming that though.

Italy need to beat Costa RIca and Uruguay, and England need to beat Costa Rica. That's the first big if right there, then- if Italy only beat Costa Rica by 1 goal, we'd have to beat Costa RIca by 4 goals
snukr
20-06-2014
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“There's a reason people are assuming that though.

Italy need to beat Costa RIca and Uruguay, and England need to beat Costa Rica. That's the first big if right there, then- if Italy only beat Costa Rica by 1 goal, we'd have to beat Costa RIca by 4 goals ”

Not true, England would only need to win by 2 goals, if Italy win by 2 or more, then any England win would take them through if Italy beat Uruguay.
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