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Old 21-06-2014, 12:02
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Ian Rush was Liverpool through and through and he left to join Juventus in the more glamorous Itlaian league. Suarez is a gonner and rightly so. He should be playing with the very best players in the world.
And the fact that he wanted to play in Europe didn't have anything to do with that?

Suarez doesn't have that barrier.
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Old 21-06-2014, 12:50
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Of course he'll go if the offer is there from a big club, his recent comments show he still feels victimised by the british press - even though no-one had a bad word to say about him all season. Liverpool had a great season but lightning wont strike twice in the premier league or the champions league, like any player he will want success.
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Old 21-06-2014, 13:09
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Why should he leave Liverpool now ? If they had failed to qualify for the CL it might have made sense, but Liverpool are a team on the rise, they will improve their squad during the summer and they play an exciting brand of football.
I suppose Real Madrid or Barcelona could make the kind of offer Liverpool just couldn't refuse, but provided he is earning the same kind of money as he could get elsewhere, I think he will be happy to stay with Liverpool on their journey.
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Old 21-06-2014, 13:12
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Why should he leave Liverpool now ? If they had failed to qualify for the CL it might have made sense, but Liverpool are a team on the rise, they will improve their squad during the summer and they play an exciting brand of football.
I suppose Real Madrid or Barcelona could make the kind of offer Liverpool just couldn't refuse, but provided he is earning the same kind of money as he could get elsewhere, I think he will be happy to stay with Liverpool on their journey.
He might want to play for a bigger and better club with better players a bigger fan base and more chances to win trophies
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Old 21-06-2014, 14:24
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He might want to play for a bigger and better club with better players a bigger fan base and more chances to win trophies
That just proved you know absolutely nothing about football. And once again he is not going anywhere, he is happy, his family are happy. You say he wants to go play with better players, considering he has stated on many occasions that he considers Steven Gerrard the best player he has ever played with, and that he loves linking up with Daniel Sturridge. Have you ever thought that maybe, he believes he is playing alongside the best players? You know like he has said he is, which is all that matters. He believes in Liverpool and is happy at Liverpool.

End of discussion, close the thread now please.
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Old 21-06-2014, 17:52
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That just proved you know absolutely nothing about football. And once again he is not going anywhere, he is happy, his family are happy. You say he wants to go play with better players, considering he has stated on many occasions that he considers Steven Gerrard the best player he has ever played with, and that he loves linking up with Daniel Sturridge. Have you ever thought that maybe, he believes he is playing alongside the best players? You know like he has said he is, which is all that matters. He believes in Liverpool and is happy at Liverpool.

End of discussion, close the thread now please.
Oh OK then what ever YOU say.

You don't happen to be a Liverpool fan do you? Have you ever noticed players at other clubs having said things like; "I don't want to leave, I'm happy here", "This is the best place for me and my family", "I enjoy playing with my team-mates and the fans are the best in the world", "so-and-so is the best manager I've worked with" etc etc, are very happy to leave the club should a better offer come along?
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Old 21-06-2014, 17:56
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Wow, it's in the Metro, so it must be true.
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Old 21-06-2014, 18:02
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£51million? Might need to add £20million to that figure to make it even worth considering.
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Old 21-06-2014, 19:37
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Oh OK then what ever YOU say.

You don't happen to be a Liverpool fan do you? Have you ever noticed players at other clubs having said things like; "I don't want to leave, I'm happy here", "This is the best place for me and my family", "I enjoy playing with my team-mates and the fans are the best in the world", "so-and-so is the best manager I've worked with" etc etc, are very happy to leave the club should a better offer come along?
I am not denying or doubting that those things happen, but you seem to think that just because other players do it, it means they all do. Not all players are only about the money, some of them actually build a home and a relationship with the city they play and live in. You jump to believe everything that a tabloid says because you would rather believe that all players will jump ship when an offer comes in for them. But then you ignore the facts that with some players the tabloids report the same crap over and over again. "Barcelona have made a bid, advanced talks are happening", "Real Madrid have made a bid, advanced talks are happening". And then what happens, the player stays where they are. Luis has said for over a year he sees his future at Anfield, his family love living in Liverpool, especially his little girl. But to you that means nothing, because the first time he gets an offer of a certain amount regardless of if his family want to stay where they are, or he wants to stay. It has to be a done deal right? The fact is it is none Liverpool fans using wishful thinking, because they hate him because of how he tares their teams to shreds.

One last time I will say this, he is going nowhere.
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Old 21-06-2014, 19:46
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I am not denying or doubting that those things happen, but you seem to think that just because other players do it, it means they all do. Not all players are only about the money, some of them actually build a home and a relationship with the city they play and live in. You jump to believe everything that a tabloid says because you would rather believe that all players will jump ship when an offer comes in for them. But then you ignore the facts that with some players the tabloids report the same crap over and over again. "Barcelona have made a bid, advanced talks are happening", "Real Madrid have made a bid, advanced talks are happening". And then what happens, the player stays where they are. Luis has said for over a year he sees his future at Anfield, his family love living in Liverpool, especially his little girl. But to you that means nothing, because the first time he gets an offer of a certain amount regardless of if his family want to stay where they are, or he wants to stay. It has to be a done deal right? The fact is it is none Liverpool fans using wishful thinking, because they hate him because of how he tares their teams to shreds.

One last time I will say this, he is going nowhere.
I prefer the best players to stay in our league actually, especially if they play for a team that probably won't win the league any time soon. Unfortunately footballers are ambitious types and always want to play at a higher level. He might stay he might leave to play at a higher level. It's good that you're hopeful but I doubt you would put everything you own on him staying. You seem to be taking it personally, it's just a career to these guys he's employed by Liverpool at the moment but he might try to force a move away again

Get over yourself
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Old 21-06-2014, 20:30
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I prefer the best players to stay in our league actually, especially if they play for a team that probably won't win the league any time soon. Unfortunately footballers are ambitious types and always want to play at a higher level. He might stay he might leave to play at a higher level. It's good that you're hopeful but I doubt you would put everything you own on him staying. You seem to be taking it personally, it's just a career to these guys he's employed by Liverpool at the moment but he might try to force a move away again

Get over yourself
Right we probably wont win the league anytime soon, we came damn close last season. This season we are strengthening our squad, have champions league football, and are one of the favourites to win the league. Yet according to you we are not a big club. Liverpool are arguably the most supported team in the world. And whilst sure we may not have won the league in 25 years, but that does not change how big the club is. Things change, don't believe me take a look at United. They had their worst season for close to 25 years, one team drops down the ladder another fills its place, that could be Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal or any other.

You tell me its good that I am hopeful, but then tell me to get over myself. Contradiction much? I am not taking things personally either, I have quite simply been pointing out the flaw in your logic. It must be a done deal because he is a top player, or because he wants to go to a bigger club, because he is greedy and wants more money. Ever stop to think that Luis believes he is at the biggest club possible, that he believes he is playing with the best players, that he has a chance to earn the money he wants by staying put, that he puts his families happiness before his career? The fact still remains he wants to stay where he is, you do not move your family half way round the world and get them setup in the local community, just to turn round a few months later and say "You know what, screw yours and our happiness, I have an offer on the table so lets get going." Both Luis and his family love Liverpool, they want to stay, his own daughter has told him she wants to stay in Liverpool.

Get the point, to some people family is far more important than a few quid, the chance to make something of yourself for a community that love you unconditionally is more important than a few quid. So tell me why is it that Luis has to be one of the players that only cares about the money, and not one of the players that places his and his families happiness above all else?
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Old 21-06-2014, 20:38
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They will be putting the Bunton up if Suarez stays and no mistake.
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Old 21-06-2014, 20:45
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Liverpool are arguably the most supported team in the world.

Ever stop to think that Luis believes he is at the biggest club possible
Myopic nonsense, I'm afraid.
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Old 21-06-2014, 20:54
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Right we probably wont win the league anytime soon, we came damn close last season. This season we are strengthening our squad, have champions league football, and are one of the favourites to win the league. Yet according to you we are not a big club. Liverpool are arguably the most supported team in the world. And whilst sure we may not have won the league in 25 years, but that does not change how big the club is. Things change, don't believe me take a look at United. They had their worst season for close to 25 years, one team drops down the ladder another fills its place, that could be Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Arsenal or any other.

You tell me its good that I am hopeful, but then tell me to get over myself. Contradiction much? I am not taking things personally either, I have quite simply been pointing out the flaw in your logic. It must be a done deal because he is a top player, or because he wants to go to a bigger club, because he is greedy and wants more money. Ever stop to think that Luis believes he is at the biggest club possible, that he believes he is playing with the best players, that he has a chance to earn the money he wants by staying put, that he puts his families happiness before his career? The fact still remains he wants to stay where he is, you do not move your family half way round the world and get them setup in the local community, just to turn round a few months later and say "You know what, screw yours and our happiness, I have an offer on the table so lets get going." Both Luis and his family love Liverpool, they want to stay, his own daughter has told him she wants to stay in Liverpool.

Get the point, to some people family is far more important than a few quid, the chance to make something of yourself for a community that love you unconditionally is more important than a few quid. So tell me why is it that Luis has to be one of the players that only cares about the money, and not one of the players that places his and his families happiness above all else?
Who argues that they are the most supported team in the world? You? Anyone else? You're almost as bad as a Tottenham fan for thinking their club is grander than they actually are.
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Old 21-06-2014, 21:05
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I am not denying or doubting that those things happen, but you seem to think that just because other players do it, it means they all do. Not all players are only about the money, some of them actually build a home and a relationship with the city they play and live in. You jump to believe everything that a tabloid says because you would rather believe that all players will jump ship when an offer comes in for them. But then you ignore the facts that with some players the tabloids report the same crap over and over again. "Barcelona have made a bid, advanced talks are happening", "Real Madrid have made a bid, advanced talks are happening". And then what happens, the player stays where they are. Luis has said for over a year he sees his future at Anfield, his family love living in Liverpool, especially his little girl. But to you that means nothing, because the first time he gets an offer of a certain amount regardless of if his family want to stay where they are, or he wants to stay. It has to be a done deal right? The fact is it is none Liverpool fans using wishful thinking, because they hate him because of how he tares their teams to shreds.

One last time I will say this, he is going nowhere.
Your whole post hangs from an allegation that I read the tabloids and believe every word of them (I do neither) and that mine is wishful thinking because I hate him for what he does to my team (I don't and he doesn't) there's not much I can reply to except point out your straw men.
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Old 21-06-2014, 21:10
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They will be putting the Bunton up if Suarez stays and no mistake.
'Wannabe' was rubbish, and no mistake. However, stringing her up might be a bit harsh.
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Old 21-06-2014, 21:35
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How come Liverpool supporters accepted that "I'm going nowhere" BEFORE he signed that extension means just that?
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Old 21-06-2014, 22:21
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Who argues that they are the most supported team in the world? You? Anyone else? You're almost as bad as a Tottenham fan for thinking their club is grander than they actually are.
They are one of the best supported clubs in the World, only an idiot would deny that and their name is much bigger abroard than some people seem to think, that's mainly due to five European Cups, that's 2 more than either Barcelona or Manchester United. Last summer they were warched by massive crowds on their pre season tour of the Far East and Australia.
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Old 21-06-2014, 22:23
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They will be putting the Bunton up if Suarez stays and no mistake.
She's more than welcome to stay at mine.
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Old 21-06-2014, 22:28
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They are one of the best supported clubs in the World, only an idiot would deny that and their name is much bigger abroard than some people seem to think, that's mainly due to five European Cups, that's 2 more than either Barcelona or Manchester United. Last summer they were warched by massive crowds on their pre season tour of the Far East and Australia.
You leave yourself open to it, with that kind of stuff.
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Old 21-06-2014, 22:43
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No club can really afford what Liverpool would demand - even Madrid and Barca have limits to their cash. I suppose if it was Sanchez and 70m or Varane and 70m then something could be done!
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Old 21-06-2014, 23:22
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They are one of the best supported clubs in the World, only an idiot would deny that and their name is much bigger abroard than some people seem to think, that's mainly due to five European Cups, that's 2 more than either Barcelona or Manchester United. Last summer they were warched by massive crowds on their pre season tour of the Far East and Australia.
One of best supported clubs, is a bit different from the "arguably the most supported club" which I was querying. The way you mention Man U and Barcelona it's almost as if you know they both have a lot more support than Liverpool.
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Old 21-06-2014, 23:42
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You leave yourself open to it, with that kind of stuff.
I wasn't suggesting they're bigger than those two clubs just that winning those trophies added to their popularity.
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Old 21-06-2014, 23:43
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One of best supported clubs, is a bit different from the "arguably the most supported club" which I was querying. The way you mention Man U and Barcelona it's almost as if you know they both have a lot more support than Liverpool.
United have, not so sure about Barcelona, most of their support is in Latin America.
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Old 22-06-2014, 00:17
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I wasn't suggesting they're bigger than those two clubs just that winning those trophies added to their popularity.
Don't get me wrong, Liverpool are a massive club with a huge following and pull for players.

But playing the '5 European Cups' card just gives fans of other clubs ammunition. That's all that I was getting at.
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