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Rooney's hollow apology
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robborocks
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“No, but give the huge amount he made on World Cup advertising, to help new young footballer's then we would believe he really cared about England, Beckham did!”

If you have a bad day at work do you give money to young people in your profession?
heiker
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by robborocks:
“The only thing about the apology that bothered me is that it looks weak. If they tried their best then no need to apologise.”

That's all I was expecting from England but as with recent World Cup performances we didn't get it.
Bus Stop2012
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“He doesn't owe me an apology.
I believe that he tried his best and he was actually one of the players who did the most for our team in this World Cup.

I agree with the people who said that he has been vastly over hyped by the media and this simply isn't fair to him. Like many of 'The Golden Generation' they had been made out to be virtual supermen, who were 'world class'. This is the media saying this, not them.
He's a great player for the clubs he's played for, and it's not his fault that he didn't live up to the expectations people invested in him.

So no complaints from me. England as a team just aren't good enough yet. You have to accept that and move on.”

This.

Why people are trying to say that Rooney, or anyone else, didn't 'try', is beyond me. If you want to bring money and glory into the argument, then its pretty obvious that the best way to make more money in sponsorship etc (and to protect those contracts you already have) is to shine as much as possible in the WC.
Of course they bl**dy try.
Joey Boswell
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Bus Stop2012:
“This.

Why people are trying to say that Rooney, or anyone else, didn't 'try', is beyond me. If you want to bring money and glory into the argument, then its pretty obvious that the best way to make more money in sponsorship etc (and to protect those contracts you already have) is to shine as much as possible in the WC.
Of course they bl**dy try.”

Exactly, some people just wont have it, they will insist that Rooney and others didn't try, that the moon is made of cheese, and we are all aliens.

Still if it makes them feel better and brightens their day, let them get on with it, they will be gone from this forum soon when the World Cup is over.
Nigel Reo-Coker
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Reo-Coker:
“If Wayne Rooney was genuinely sorry then what's stopping him from donating 3 months wages to developing grassroots football in England? At least a gesture like that would do something to help England's chances in the future. But of course he won't do that and his words of apology are about as worthless as his performances on the pitch.”

Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“I fully agree. That would make all the difference, and we'd definitely win the World Cup next time.”

I'm not suggesting we would win the World Cup just because of Rooney's donation but it would at least do some good and would be a way for Wayne to prove whether or not he's genuinely sorry. It's not like he can't afford it on his 300k a week wages.
O'Neill
22-06-2014
Rooney has nothing to be sorry for.
dmuk
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by O'Neill:
“Rooney has nothing to be sorry for.”

Maybe for his acting in that wine advert.
Nigel Reo-Coker
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by O'Neill:
“Rooney has nothing to be sorry for.”

You must be joking right?
timboy
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Reo-Coker:
“You must be joking right?”

Tell us, oh wise one, what he should be apologising for?

Should he be apologising for scoring a goal and setting the other one up?
Nigel Reo-Coker
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by timboy:
“Tell us, oh wise one, what he should be apologising for?

Should he be apologising for having scoring a goal and setting the other one up?”

Letting his country down at another world cup? A blind man could of scored that goal and the cross was his only contribution worth mentioning in both matches combined.
daziechain
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by O'Neill:
“Completely agree.”

Me too ... not a huge fan of his but fed up with seeing him singled out for all the criticism. People are using this to throw sh*t at a player they don't like in the first place and its ridiculous as he hasn't played badly.
timboy
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Reo-Coker:
“Letting his country down at another world cup? A blind man could of scored that goal and the cross was his only contribution worth mentioning in both matches combined.”

You're absolutely clueless.
Nigel Reo-Coker
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by timboy:
“You're absolutely clueless.”

I think you'll find the overwhelming majority of England supporters feel the same about Rooney's performances. You only have to look on Twitter to see what people are saying.
O'Neill
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by dmuk:
“Maybe for his acting in that wine advert.”

That was unforgivable
timboy
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Reo-Coker:
“I think you'll find the overwhelming majority of England supporters feel the same about Rooney's performances. You only have to look on Twitter to see what people are saying.”

Twitter is a mecca for wallopers so I'll pass on that.

Against Uruguay Rooney was inches away from a hat trick. He got himself into great positions and was a little bit unlucky.

England need a scapegoat and he has been chosen.

The English fans and their media need to realise that their behaviour in the likes of this has an adverse reaction on their national team.
jlp95bwfc
22-06-2014
Can I just ask some questions. Why on earth is Wayne Rooney the scapegoat every time England lose? Why are we so reliant on him? Why is his perceived lack of performance/desire the only reason why England aren't successful? This forum is completely deluded. Wayne Rooney was one of the only players who did show passion, desire, effort and quality in the whole England squad. I don't know what else he can do. When he doesn't score he is criticised. When he does score, a blind man could've done the same. No mention of the run he made to get into the goalscoring position which a blind man certainly couldn't have made. It's just a complete joke and until people start looking deeper into the problems of the England national team, we will never be successful.
MARTYM8
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by BigFoot87:
“How dare sports players appear in adverts!

No adverts, no holidays and no tattoos for our players! Once that's sorted, watch us go in the Euros!”

I think the point is they have made a lot of money off the back of the world cup build up - given their woeful performance the suggestion is some might go to charity rather than on designer outfits for Colleen.
BigFoot87
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Nigel Reo-Coker:
“I think you'll find the overwhelming majority of England supporters feel the same about Rooney's performances. You only have to look on Twitter to see what people are saying.”

Oh well, Twitter!

That settles it then.
O'Neill
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Can I just ask some questions. Why on earth is Wayne Rooney the scapegoat every time England lose? Why are we so reliant on him? Why is his perceived lack of performance/desire the only reason why England aren't successful? This forum is completely deluded. Wayne Rooney was one of the only players who did show passion, desire, effort and quality in the whole England squad. I don't know what else he can do. When he doesn't score he is criticised. When he does score, a blind man could've done the same. No mention of the run he made to get into the goalscoring position which a blind man certainly couldn't have made. It's just a complete joke and until people start looking deeper into the problems of the England national team, we will never be successful.”

It was pre-determined in the weeks leading up to the tournament. Three Man of the match performances outshining current world players of the year such as Messi and Ronaldo, or be labelled not world class therefore the very reason England fail, he's been built up to fail just like the scapegoats before him, it's always the same with England.
BigFoot87
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“I think the point is they have made a lot of money off the back of the world cup build up - given their woeful performance the suggestion is some might go to charity rather than on designer outfits for Colleen.”

So if you have a woeful day at work, you'll give some money to charity, right?
jlp95bwfc
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by O'Neill:
“It was pre-determined in the weeks leading up to the tournament. Three Man of the match performances outshining current world players of the year such as Messi or Ronaldo, or be labelled not world class therefore the very reason England fail.”

To be clear, I don't think Rooney is world class but that is irrelevant. We should be asking why England have no world class players, not why Wayne Rooney isn't world class.
O'Neill
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“To be clear, I don't think Rooney is world class but that is irrelevant. We should be asking why England have no world class players, not why Wayne Rooney isn't world class.”

Rooney doesn't need to be world class, it's not something to hit him over the head over. Rooney has proven for over ten years he's a fantastic player, yet people are comparing him to some of the best players ever to play football and suggesting because he isn't at their level then that makes him worth blaming over the whole teams performance. It's mind boggling when you really think of it.

Do Costa Rica have any so called "world class" players, obviously not, yet they still beat Italy and Uruguay. It's not a requirement, Rooney failed to realise the deluded fans mythical standards of what England should aspire to over 2 games, despite not playing badly.
thegreytist
22-06-2014
Rooney sprinted from inside his own half to get into position to put away that "tap in". Yep, clearly wasn't trying.
nevada
22-06-2014
Rooney hasn't hit the heights expected post Euro 2004 at international level. Lifestyle is a key factor. A certain Mr Ferguson has stated that Rooney's drinking and smoking was a concern, and that he could struggle to maintain standards into his 30s.

Compare to Ronaldo who has combined a rigorous training regime with no smoking or drinking. It's no coincidence in this respect that their paths have varied wildly from their days playing together.
O'Neill
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by thegreytist:
“Rooney sprinted from inside his own half to get into position to put away that "tap in". Yep, clearly wasn't trying.”

Fans see what they want to see. I remember all the complaints during the last Euro's, everyone calling him overrated (incredibly ironic given how that's their doing) and he went and scored the winning goal against Ukraine.
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