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The inability to perform on the world stage.
kitty86
21-06-2014
Why do you think that many players who are lauded as the best players in the world can not perform for their national teams in the same way?

I think it's due to the fact that when they are in their prospective teams the spotlight is more on them as other players don't perform to that standard, but in their national teams they are just one of many chosen top class players who perform better.
nevada
21-06-2014
Probably due to the England problem; choosing players over the system.
Alrightmate
22-06-2014
One of the reasons could be that when they play for their clubs they're so used to specific players being around them.
When they play in the World Cup they may not be as used to the people they're playing with as much as they are with their club team-mates. As the training with them will be infrequent compared to the week in week out training at their club.
myscimitar
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“One of the reasons could be that when they play for their clubs they're so used to specific players being around them.
When they play in the World Cup they may not be as used to the people they're playing with as much as they are with their club team-mates. As the training with them will be infrequent compared to the week in week out training at their club.”

Would that not be the same for every county taking part?, so don't see that as the reason.
Alrightmate
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by myscimitar:
“Would that not be the same for every county taking part?, so don't see that as the reason.”

I didn't say THE reason, I said one of the reasons.

I don't know what it's like with the training schedules of other countries' clubs.
Mandark
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“One of the reasons could be that when they play for their clubs they're so used to specific players being around them.
When they play in the World Cup they may not be as used to the people they're playing with as much as they are with their club team-mates. As the training with them will be infrequent compared to the week in week out training at their club.”

I agree. Some top players seem very sensitive about who they play with whereas others can just get on with it.
Bus Stop2012
22-06-2014
This is why the several posts there have been on other threads, about English players declining to go play abroad for other clubs instead of languishing on the bench in England, are striking me as possibly having a lot of merit. Perhaps going to play for a foreign club helps with adaptability and flexibility.
Lawro2
22-06-2014
Enner Valencia, now there's a player who has performed.

Queue for his signature must be getting pretty long.
Alrightmate
22-06-2014
Originally Posted by Bus Stop2012:
“This is why the several posts there have been on other threads, about English players declining to go play abroad for other clubs instead of languishing on the bench in England, are striking me as possibly having a lot of merit. Perhaps going to play for a foreign club helps with adaptability and flexibility.”

Yes I think adaptability may certainly be a factor if our best players appear to look more impressive for their clubs than they do for England in the World Cup.
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