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Old 23-06-2014, 13:55
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I've always thought only the most blatant offsides should be given offside.

If a player makes a decent run past the defender and is say only a foot offside it should be allowed.
So you think a linesman should be judging if a player is 12 inches offside so no flag or 13 inches and the flag goes up? That would be impossible to judge (just in front is hard enough) and would make the game a farce.
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Old 23-06-2014, 16:44
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Offsides is one thing that MUST be subject to a TV replay. Play on. If it's not a goal, it doesn't matter. If it is a goal, then go to the booth.

Adds excitement for viewers, and gets the decision right. What could be wrong with that. Nothing except the so-called top teams might get beat occasionally
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Old 23-06-2014, 16:48
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I don't think I have come across it in cricket. Or snooker.
now this is being silly. but cricket has an offside. no balls for overstepping the popping crease.

team sports with a "goal" need an offside rule. I haven't checked, but I assume handball, waterpolo etc etc all have offsides. basketball might not..
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Old 23-06-2014, 17:06
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Basketball hasn't got offside in the same manner as football, but there are three-second penalties to prevent players just sitting in the paint, so it's not too far away from preventing goal-hanging.
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Old 23-06-2014, 17:11
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I've always thought to myself I'd love to see a game with no offside rule.

The striker standing alone in the box, maybe a defender near him, would be fun.
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Old 23-06-2014, 17:45
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One good thing about the offside rule was the need for linesmen.

In particular Jimmy Hill, as an emergency linesman.

Jimmy Hill Emergency Referee - Clip from The Big …: http://youtu.be/ntfslrhajAg
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Old 23-06-2014, 19:00
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The offside rule is a bit like Britains membership of the Eu. It shouldn't be abolished just have changes made to it.
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Old 23-06-2014, 19:13
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I've always thought to myself I'd love to see a game with no offside rule.

The striker standing alone in the box, maybe a defender near him, would be fun.
If a team keeps lumping it up to the big lad up front - and the keeper/defenders keep clearing it with ease, wouldn't the attacking team latch on to they need to do something different?

Must admit, the rule is a lot better now it only involves *active* players. Dunno if this is the same - but call *offside* ONLY if a player in the offside position touches it, if he's there obstructing the keeper (offside but not playing the ball) and it gets lashed in - then the obstruction law covers it?
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Old 23-06-2014, 21:00
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I've always thought only the most blatant offsides should be given offside.

If a player makes a decent run past the defender and is say only a foot offside it should be allowed.
I can't even begin to imagine the anarchy that would cause. The interfering with play aspect of the offside rule is bad enough as no-one ever seems to be able to make up their minds as to what constitutes this as what doesn't. Adding something else to the rule which is dependent on the discretion of the referee would be a disaster. Offside should remain as black and white as possible - either you're ahead of the last defender or you're not.
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Old 23-06-2014, 21:43
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If a team keeps lumping it up to the big lad up front - and the keeper/defenders keep clearing it with ease, wouldn't the attacking team latch on to they need to do something different?
They wouldn't need to as the big man standing on the goal line would allow many more goals to be scored. Despite the number of goals however the football would be very boring.

Must admit, the rule is a lot better now it only involves *active* players. Dunno if this is the same - but call *offside* ONLY if a player in the offside position touches it, if he's there obstructing the keeper (offside but not playing the ball) and it gets lashed in - then the obstruction law covers it?
I think it was much better before when offside was offside, there is too much interpretation involved now as to whether a player is interfering with play.
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Old 23-06-2014, 21:53
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Why mess with the beautiful game? Surely this World Cup is showing that the existing rules allow great matches to be played?
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Old 23-06-2014, 21:59
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I don't think I have come across it in cricket. .
There is an offside rule in cricket which limits the numbers of fielders which have to be on that side of the field.
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Old 23-06-2014, 23:08
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There is an offside rule in cricket which limits the numbers of fielders which have to be on that side of the field.
No more than two behind square on the batsman's off side.
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Old 23-06-2014, 23:50
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So you think a linesman should be judging if a player is 12 inches offside so no flag or 13 inches and the flag goes up? That would be impossible to judge (just in front is hard enough) and would make the game a farce.
I wasn't being entirely specific about it's actually being In exact inches or exactly a foot but im sure you probably new that
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Old 23-06-2014, 23:56
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Peter Crouch would have been the best footballer of all time
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Old 23-06-2014, 23:58
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the 18 yrd line of the penalty area should be the offside zone,anything less than that should not be offisde no matter what
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Old 24-06-2014, 01:27
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I wasn't being entirely specific about it's actually being In exact inches or exactly a foot but im sure you probably new that
There has to be some point where the player is offside and some point where he isn't. At the moment it's if the attacker is goal side of the defender under your system it's a set distance which would be unworkable as it will always come down to some measurement that can't be measured properly by a linesman, an inch one way onside, an inch the other offside.
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Old 24-06-2014, 01:50
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Attackers were OP, so they got nerfed
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Old 24-06-2014, 02:12
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If the offside rule was abolished, Big Sam would be unstoppable.

Let us never speak of this again.
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Old 24-06-2014, 07:53
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World Cup time brings out some strange threads doesn't it.
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Old 24-06-2014, 18:30
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all sports have an offside rule, don't they?

rugby, American football, ice hockey. you need a rule of some sort, I think
Yep, pretty much every sport. An offside was given in the cricket between England and Sri Lanka only the other day. Offside decisions are given in golf and Formula 1 all the time and in cycling last year's Tour de France was littered with offside decisions.
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Old 24-06-2014, 18:55
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Is it due to goal hogging ? I understand what the rule is, it is just trying to work out why the need for it that stumps me. Anyone know ?
Yes this. If there was no offside rule, the forwards could just stand by the goal basically.
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Old 24-06-2014, 22:15
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Yep, pretty much every sport. An offside was given in the cricket between England and Sri Lanka only the other day. Offside decisions are given in golf and Formula 1 all the
Otherwise called a run out, out of bounds and exceeding track limits respectively.
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Old 24-06-2014, 23:55
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In NFL they have a strange mythical beast called an ONSIDE KICK. The teams rarely have the courage to do it. NFL remains the best sport in the world.
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Old 25-06-2014, 21:00
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It would be a helluva lot better if they got on it with though rather than having an ad break after every play which stops the clock.
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