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Old 24-06-2014, 17:16
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They should agree to draw.

No point in playing to win and risking injuries.

It's not cheating. It's just common sense given how the group has panned out.
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:20
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Collusion is cheating
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:35
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Collusion is cheating
It'd be an unspoken agreement. Neither side are obligated to attack.

They could all stand still for 90 minutes and I don't think that would be a violation of the rules.
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:00
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Amongst Ronaldo charitable acts he has

paid for a childs cancer operation

written a letter to a judge on behal fof a fan

haircut in tribute to a child fighting cancer

He has on numerous occasions spoken out for the Palestinians. Snubbed the Israeli players by not swapping his shirt with them after the match.

So hes not all that bad, even if do seem arrogant on the pitch.
So snubbing fellow professionals for the wrong doings of others is a good thing?

Anyway, USA all the way for me, my wife is American and even though she ain't a football fan she has watched them even through to 1.00 am.
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:35
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1st half will be competitive, 2nd... not so much.

I think the USA can even lose 0-1 and make it through.
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Old 25-06-2014, 09:56
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So snubbing fellow professionals for the wrong doings of others is a good thing?

Anyway, USA all the way for me, my wife is American and even though she ain't a football fan she has watched them even through to 1.00 am.
He made a point, that could not be ignored. As for the the fellow professionals, how do you know they dont support what the Israelis are doing? When you make political statements, there is no way innocent people wont get caught in the cross-fire. At least the Israeli players are still alive, not something that can be said for the innocent Palestinians that get caught in the Israeli attacks on Palestinians.

As I said before, the best result is for Ghana and Germany to go through from this group. Portugal are a poor team, the USA arent better.
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Old 25-06-2014, 10:12
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Sadly Ghana have blown it with their result against USA. Really tough group.
I think the first half will be competitive between Germany and USA, then if it's level, they may well settle for a non aggression pact (like Spain and Chile at 2010 W.C - I went to that game and it slowed to a crawl with 20 mins to go). Don't think we'll see, or hope we won't see, anything as obvious as the 1982 Germany-Austria.

The Germans will be happy enough to face France. They are their bogey team.
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Old 25-06-2014, 10:55
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Sadly Ghana have blown it with their result against USA. Really tough group.
I think the first half will be competitive between Germany and USA, then if it's level, they may well settle for a non aggression pact (like Spain and Chile at 2010 W.C - I went to that game and it slowed to a crawl with 20 mins to go). Don't think we'll see, or hope we won't see, anything as obvious as the 1982 Germany-Austria.

The Germans will be happy enough to face France. They are their bogey team.
If Germany win, and Ghana win, then depending on goal difference they can go through. Ghana need a 3 goal swing to go through, so a 2-0 Germany win and a 1-0 Ghana win will see them through (as will a Germany 1-0 win and a 2-0 Ghana win). That isnt beyond the realms of possibility. Germany will want to finish top of the group and most likely face Algeria or Russia. Holding out for a nil nil draw is dangerous, as Italy found out to their cost yesterday.

Portugal will need a 5 goal swing, which is unlikely.
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Old 25-06-2014, 12:27
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Ghana is -1 now, USA +1. What would decide if they got both 0 difference and 4 points?
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Old 25-06-2014, 12:32
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Ghana is -1 now, USA +1. What would decide if they got both 0 difference and 4 points?
Goals Scored. If that's level then head to head (USA would go through).
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Old 25-06-2014, 12:48
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Klinsmann said that he's going to sing both national anthems before the match. And he also said he's going to keep his fingers crossed for Germany's title challenge after the GER v USA match.

I'm not sure what the US public is going to think about hat.
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Old 25-06-2014, 13:05
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Can't imagine that'll go down well.
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Old 25-06-2014, 15:43
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Mueller has had 5 stitches after the massacre with Ghana. Not sure if he wants a football hitting that. Additionally Klinsmann knows the German team set up, their weaknesses and so on. If he puts Germany out, I wouldn't wonder if his passport gets revoked
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Old 25-06-2014, 16:48
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Klinsmann said that he's going to sing both national anthems before the match. And he also said he's going to keep his fingers crossed for Germany's title challenge after the GER v USA match.

I'm not sure what the US public is going to think about hat.
Surely it's just the same as any player or manager competing against their boyhood/hometown club.

You want them to do well, but not at the cost of your own team and if you scoring against them relegates them then tough luck.
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